EPTthats possible right?
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:08 Coagulation wrote: How do we know the person who is "verifying" your confirmation of your role isnt just a Scumbuddy of yours? well they would be ideal for a rolecheck this would be incredibly dangerous play as mafia to out my scumbuddies as the game progresses. every time i confirm to someone i will be claiming it. it is possible the person i can confirm to is a mafia, i have no way of knowing someones alignment. but look at this play from the perspective of me being mafia and it really makes no sense. I'm going to out all of my mafia compatriots just to win the mayor position? you'll see very soon that the information I'm providing will be beneficial to the town and we'll see real results in numbers. I'm putting my head on a plate for you guys if I turn out to be a liar. I can back this up. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:10 Coagulation wrote: Maybe Godfather Will verify so no one can DT check him properly thats possible right? of course it's possible but look at this play in the terms of the game overall. think for a minute that I am mafia. I would essentially be outing my entire team to the town over the course of the game. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:10 Node wrote: DrH, you forgot another scenario in which the first step would fail. If you're mafia, you could just ask a buddy, or hell, the Godfather (presuming he exists) to confirm your role. He posts and the townies are none the wiser. The mafia gets inducted into every circle there is and is put in a position of power. I'm not sold, yet. there are other things to my power that will prove beyond any doubt that I am a pro-town player. they may not take affect immediately but everything will be quite clear when I am elected and roleclaim | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
There aren't 22 scum like there were in Haunted, there are many fewer (I forget exactly how many). This means that every time a mafia member dies, it is a bigger hit this game. I hope there wouldn't be more than one shape-shifting role in the mafia. One question though: Does the Godfather get chosen Day1 or Night1? If Godfather gets chosen Night1, then Dr.H couldn't possibly be shapeshifting now. Also, since he is roleclaiming immediately after being elected, it wouldn't give the Mafia enough time to have a Godfather, so even if he's Mafia, the person he would be claiming to wouldn't be shapeshifting yet. Or something to that effect... | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well, I see it this way. Dr.H has no reason to give us the names of another Mafia member just to get the Mayor position. I mean, sure, it's a nice position, but worth losing teammates over? Not sure... There aren't 22 scum like there were in Haunted, there are many fewer (I forget exactly how many). This means that every time a mafia member dies, it is a bigger hit this game. I hope there wouldn't be more than one shape-shifting role in the mafia. One question though: Does the Godfather get chosen Day1 or Night1? If Godfather gets chosen Night1, then Dr.H couldn't possibly be shapeshifting now. Also, since he is roleclaiming immediately after being elected, it wouldn't give the Mafia enough time to have a Godfather, so even if he's Mafia, the person he would be claiming to wouldn't be shapeshifting yet. Or something to that effect... Godfather would be chosen on the first day I believe I have a small chance of confirming myself to a mafia. Mafia can then come out, get rolechecked, and sacrifice themselves to kill me So in the freak scenario that this happens I would plead town to wait a day before lynching me. Not to mention it could be the miller as well. There are other things to my role that will confirm me as town but I want to make a disclaimer, I have no way of knowing what other players roles are (I certainly don't have DT powers) so I have as much chance as anyone of acting upon mafia. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:17 NB wrote: people are moving too fast, im having a hard time to catch up your conversation T_T poor excuse, i know your play. you watch the thread very intently while communicating avidly within a scumcircle why even mention it? feeling guilty about your inactivity or do you just like to clutter up threads for no reason | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: Does the Godfather get chosen Day1 or Night1? A possible Godfather has until the end of Day 1 to choose their role. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor However i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle" I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: To clarify about the Mayor since this was unclear: He can be targetted by any night action that isn't aimed at killing him as long as possible bodyguard(s) is/are still alive. Exception to this being if murrayitis is triggered but possible bodyguard(s) is/are still alive. So the Mayor can be role/alignment checked? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:27 Coagulation wrote: DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE" I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor However i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle" I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far. let me put it this way there is a 1/39 chance i will fail in confirming my role to the town there are multiple ways i can prove my identity over the course of the day. so you would rather vote pandain who offers nothing? you're doing a bad job at discrediting me. considering that mafia are probably shitting their pants over the idea of a confirmed townie with great coordination powers become immune to nightkills I'm not surprised someone is trying their best FoS | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: So the Mayor can be role/alignment checked? Yes. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:29 Coagulation wrote: FISHBOWL =FISHBALL Sorry. Wheres This guys circle at?? wouldnt they claim by now?? there are a lot of inactive players right now calm yourself | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
If Dr.H is Godfather and claims to a Mafia who will then confirm his role as a blue, we can DT check them both and figure it out, even if we have to check one by one. If Dr.H is Mafia and claims to Godfather, who would confirm him and shape shift, hoping to be checked and turn blue, then a check on Dr.H would find out his alignment. If Dr.H accidentally claims to a Mafia, that fucking sucks, but he claims that this is low percentage, and he would be able to try to out them as Mafia. I think Dr.H is a safe and smart choice. P.S. If nobody from Fishball's "circle" steps forward in the next few hours, I want to place a FoS on Fishball. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On October 30 2010 07:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ok, so operating under the assumption that the only shape shifter role is the Godfather: If Dr.H is Godfather and claims to a Mafia who will then confirm his role as a blue, we can DT check them both and figure it out, even if we have to check one by one. If Dr.H is Mafia and claims to Godfather, who would confirm him and shape shift, hoping to be checked and turn blue, then a check on Dr.H would find out his alignment. If Dr.H accidentally claims to a Mafia, that fucking sucks, but he claims that this is low percentage, and he would be able to try to out them as Mafia. I think Dr.H is a safe and smart choice. P.S. If nobody from Fishball's "circle" steps forward in the next few hours, I want to place a FoS on Fishball. part of me hopes i claim to a mafia just to place a huge amount of pressure on them they basically have to admit i am who i say i am or die which is a lose/lose situation for them | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
if i somehow miss my confirmation, i can confirm it indirectly as well. and i will always get a second chance the next night to directly confirm it. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
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