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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 21:17 GMT
#461
On October 30 2010 06:15 Coagulation wrote:
Doc you are all over the place with votes man
I will think about voting for you because i think you are very experienced however
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On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.


I feel like if DocH Is a red we would never know.

you would know immediately

did you even read the thread? i am going to prove that I am my blue role as soon as I am elected.

if i was a red you wouldn't know because I wouldn't be making this play
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2010 21:18 GMT
#462
On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 06:14 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates


Its even worse when several blues run claiming they are important..... since that means they're either mafia or going to get sniped off.


everyone is a blue in this game lol

i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying

you have offered nothing yet have a huge bandwagon behind you for whatever reason

read my previous post. valuable blue.

I can offer proof as well, albeit it will be somewhat indirect. Are you sure you can offer 100% proof? Why can you not just do it now?

I myself have a valuable role, however I do not roleclaim because I know there's a chance I may lose, and do not want mafia knowing what I have.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 21:18 GMT
#463
On October 30 2010 06:17 Node wrote:
The downside of secrecy is due to the nature of this particular game it's impossible to reveal any information without putting your head on the line. It's not exactly possible to be subtle -- it's all or nothing. I'm not in a position where I can gently guide town to the correct choices.

i have a feeling we have the same role actually

am i poking at the truth here?

RIP Aaliyah
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 29 2010 21:20 GMT
#464
It would be a bizarre role to have more than one of, but I hear what you're saying.
whole lies with a half smile
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 21:21 GMT
#465
On October 30 2010 06:18 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:14 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates


Its even worse when several blues run claiming they are important..... since that means they're either mafia or going to get sniped off.


everyone is a blue in this game lol

i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying

you have offered nothing yet have a huge bandwagon behind you for whatever reason

read my previous post. valuable blue.
fair enough

I can offer proof as well, albeit it will be somewhat indirect. Are you sure you can offer 100% proof? Why can you not just do it now?
yes i can, but i need to go through the night phase

I myself have a valuable role, however I do not roleclaim because I know there's a chance I may lose, and do not want mafia knowing what I have.
this is understandable of course

but what makes you a better candidate than me or fishball or bumatlarge?


RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 21:21 GMT
#466
On October 30 2010 06:20 Node wrote:
It would be a bizarre role to have more than one of, but I hear what you're saying.

now i'm thinking we don't have the same role, that puts me in a sticky situation but thats ok
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2010 21:23 GMT
#467
Besides my role I only offer my sincere commitement to this game, and to the town. I will not make decisions lightly, I will ask people for their advice. I know people such as you and Ace and brownbear and such are very expierenced, and I will ask for your advice but take it with cautioun. I will make analysis, and be an active townie.

Alot of you have been saying I'm very transparent and can't lie very well, I guess that's good? At the very least, then I will be easy to spot if mafia. This is why I'm running for mayor.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 21:26 GMT
#468
you don't sound very proactive, that makes for a bad mayor

you'll probably just end up doing whatever mafia tell you to do. the mayor needs to have the balls to stand up against the town when they are wrong or when he is being fed lies by mafia and make decisions for himself sometimes

every time i run for scum mayor i say "ill side with the town and do what the town tells me" because it sounds so pro-town but really it just means "ill support whatever bandwagon the mafia starts"

whether you're scum or not is irrelevant to that point.
RIP Aaliyah
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 29 2010 21:41 GMT
#469
Read 8 pages of WTFs. It seems to me that people are bsing about their roles. Fishball claims to be in a circle, now Pandain claims he can make a circle. WHAT? My role is nothing crazy like those two but a very conventional blue role. People are taking advantage of the lack of role list and bsing roles to their liking. I don't trust them at all. And Fishball, either multiple people from your circle (at least 2 given that to be mod killed noobs exist), or you are the number 1 suspect.

DoctorHelvetica had been the most active person. He is also experienced. We need mayor like him. He also said he can somehow prove his innocence which is another plus.

So I will change my vote to him. AND Fishball, your fellow circle got to step up or you will be a very good lynch.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 29 2010 21:56 GMT
#470
Yeah, I've made my decision by now. I'm voting for the Doc. I don't have much to say about that I, or other players, haven't already mentioned. Suffice it to say that I think he's the best choice for the Mayor.

There's no way to know if he's Mafia unless we vote for him and see what his role is, but unless his role is some crazy "role-concealment" deal, the Doc has no reason to out himself on center stage.

I'll be passing out campaign buttons until the end of the day. =O

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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2010 21:56 GMT
#471
DrH I'm willing to throw my vote on you if you're going to seriously get the town organized. I am not confident about the FB vote and I still feel comfortable about Pandain, but if you really want the mayoral power I'll support you. You're the only person that's putting forth the effort to organize a strategic plan past the first night.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 29 2010 21:57 GMT
#472
On October 30 2010 06:18 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:14 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates


Its even worse when several blues run claiming they are important..... since that means they're either mafia or going to get sniped off.


everyone is a blue in this game lol

i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying

you have offered nothing yet have a huge bandwagon behind you for whatever reason

read my previous post. valuable blue.

I can offer proof as well, albeit it will be somewhat indirect. Are you sure you can offer 100% proof? Why can you not just do it now?

I myself have a valuable role, however I do not roleclaim because I know there's a chance I may lose, and do not want mafia knowing what I have.


What makes you think there are invaluable blues? Every role has a purpose, some may be more bizarre than others, but I would think that every role is potentially game changing.

I trust that Dr.H can stand true to his word of 100% proof of town. If not, then we have our first town lynch target.

As for Fishball, without multiple members of your circle stepping forward, I can't trust you.

Pandain, all you are offering is being a loyal townie, and being able to "indirectly" prove your role. Well congrats at being a townie, you can continue to be one. We need a Mayor who can lead the town to victory, not just aid the town in getting there.

We need a Mayor with potential, with a plan. Bum, Dr.H, and Fishball all have given those to us, you really have not.

My vote is going to Dr.H.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 22:00 GMT
#473
On October 30 2010 06:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
DrH I'm willing to throw my vote on you if you're going to seriously get the town organized. I am not confident about the FB vote and I still feel comfortable about Pandain, but if you really want the mayoral power I'll support you. You're the only person that's putting forth the effort to organize a strategic plan past the first night.

here is my basic plan for organization:

1. at night i can confirm to one player that I am who I say I am.

2. that player confirms to the town my role

3. hopefully masons will induct me into the circle

4. with my power i can help coordinate other roles, I don't want to say too much as to how right now.

There are only two scenarios in which the 1st step can fail. They are very very very very very very unlikely. If the person I confirm to is mafia, they can just lie and say I didn't confirm to them or never bring it up.

Mafia will be forced to confirm that I am blue, or I'll out them for lying.

I can be much more specific when I'm sure I can not be killed at night.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 22:01 GMT
#474
to be clear the second scenario in which i could fail in confirming my role is that the person is mafia. even if that happens they will be pressured to claim and I'm just going to come out and say who I confirmed to after a brief period so they can't lie about it without incriminating themselves

the first scenario is really unlikely
RIP Aaliyah
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 29 2010 22:04 GMT
#475
On October 30 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 06:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
DrH I'm willing to throw my vote on you if you're going to seriously get the town organized. I am not confident about the FB vote and I still feel comfortable about Pandain, but if you really want the mayoral power I'll support you. You're the only person that's putting forth the effort to organize a strategic plan past the first night.

here is my basic plan for organization:

1. at night i can confirm to one player that I am who I say I am.

2. that player confirms to the town my role

3. hopefully masons will induct me into the circle

4. with my power i can help coordinate other roles, I don't want to say too much as to how right now.

There are only two scenarios in which the 1st step can fail. They are very very very very very very unlikely. If the person I confirm to is mafia, they can just lie and say I didn't confirm to them or never bring it up.

Mafia will be forced to confirm that I am blue, or I'll out them for lying.

I can be much more specific when I'm sure I can not be killed at night.


How will you confirm to one player your role if there are no PMs?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 29 2010 22:06 GMT
#476
On October 30 2010 07:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
DrH I'm willing to throw my vote on you if you're going to seriously get the town organized. I am not confident about the FB vote and I still feel comfortable about Pandain, but if you really want the mayoral power I'll support you. You're the only person that's putting forth the effort to organize a strategic plan past the first night.

here is my basic plan for organization:

1. at night i can confirm to one player that I am who I say I am.

2. that player confirms to the town my role

3. hopefully masons will induct me into the circle

4. with my power i can help coordinate other roles, I don't want to say too much as to how right now.

There are only two scenarios in which the 1st step can fail. They are very very very very very very unlikely. If the person I confirm to is mafia, they can just lie and say I didn't confirm to them or never bring it up.

Mafia will be forced to confirm that I am blue, or I'll out them for lying.

I can be much more specific when I'm sure I can not be killed at night.


How will you confirm to one player your role if there are no PMs?

I asked him that previously. Apparently, his role allows him to communicate... somehow. Personally, I think a role that allows communication and negates the need for a Plague Doctor is either ridiculous in design or overpowered, but I'm fine as long as the Doc is who he says he is.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 22:07 GMT
#477
On October 30 2010 07:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 06:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:
DrH I'm willing to throw my vote on you if you're going to seriously get the town organized. I am not confident about the FB vote and I still feel comfortable about Pandain, but if you really want the mayoral power I'll support you. You're the only person that's putting forth the effort to organize a strategic plan past the first night.

here is my basic plan for organization:

1. at night i can confirm to one player that I am who I say I am.

2. that player confirms to the town my role

3. hopefully masons will induct me into the circle

4. with my power i can help coordinate other roles, I don't want to say too much as to how right now.

There are only two scenarios in which the 1st step can fail. They are very very very very very very unlikely. If the person I confirm to is mafia, they can just lie and say I didn't confirm to them or never bring it up.

Mafia will be forced to confirm that I am blue, or I'll out them for lying.

I can be much more specific when I'm sure I can not be killed at night.


How will you confirm to one player your role if there are no PMs?

part of my power is to make my presence known to another player
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 29 2010 22:08 GMT
#478
How do we know the person who is "verifying" your confirmation of your role isnt just a Scumbuddy of yours?
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#479
DrH, you forgot another scenario in which the first step would fail. If you're mafia, you could just ask a buddy, or hell, the Godfather (presuming he exists) to confirm your role. He posts and the townies are none the wiser. The mafia gets inducted into every circle there is and is put in a position of power.

I'm not sold, yet.
whole lies with a half smile
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#480
On October 30 2010 07:08 Coagulation wrote:
How do we know the person who is "verifying" your confirmation of your role isnt just a Scumbuddy of yours?


We don't, obviously. But that's the whole nature of the game, friend.

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