EPTthis game was over so long ago, we just got super lucky with most of our scum kills
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
this game was over so long ago, we just got super lucky with most of our scum kills | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:45 Ace wrote: My major issue with this game was that the Mafia had 2KP, where as the Town has a TON of KP. This game was close yet only ONE Mafia player was ever lynched. This was an easy Scum win that turned into a drag out game because of the amounts of non-scum KP that ran rampant. Mafia had NB which by the oracle they could direct via the bus, and they had murrayitis (which I had expected to spread more). Drugs dealer could have been used on cubed. I think mafia had enough weapons this game. Town only had 2 vigs which died if they missed and only had one hit, a mad hatter that kills himself, a zombie that gets one hit from the grave and the town hero if he got a lynch right. It was that the third party turned on the mafia that caused the most casualties. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:43 Qatol wrote: What I want to know is how the heck NB went under the radar. He made such an obviously scummy post on day 1, got called out for it, and then he's suddenly forgotten? He targeted himself with his own kp I believe and then somehow got saved. Unless I'm misremembering something. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:43 Qatol wrote: What I want to know is how the heck NB went under the radar. He made such an obviously scummy post on day 1, got called out for it, and then he's suddenly forgotten? Night 3 he targeted himself with his random lynch. Node then reported it in thread so people assumed that he couldn't be mafia | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
next post is 1000 so im thinking about saving it for something edit: although admittedly like 500 of my posts hav been in mafia forum | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:45 Ace wrote: Actually I'm glad L kept arguing the way he did. 3rd party says they could win with Town or Scum but could have been lying. They could have had a win by themselves condition and just said it to stay alive. No way anyone could know ^_^ My major issue with this game was that the Mafia had 2KP, where as the Town has a TON of KP. This game was close yet only ONE Mafia player was ever lynched. This was an easy Scum win that turned into a drag out game because of the amounts of non-scum KP that ran rampant. Well my thought at least was that Murrayitis would trigger MUCH earlier and not hit very many scum (because of their plague doctor). However, Artanis and LSB decided to allow plague doctors to confer immunity to murrayitis and medics to cure it. But then when I looked things over, there weren't 9 scum or as many town KP roles either, so I guess my analysis wasn't particularly relevant! | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Mafia had NB which by the oracle they could direct via the bus, and they had murrayitis (which I had expected to spread more). Drugs dealer could have been used on cubed. I think mafia had enough weapons this game. Town only had 2 vigs which died if they missed and only had one hit, a mad hatter that kills himself, a zombie that gets one hit from the grave and the town hero if he got a lynch right. It was that the third party turned on the mafia that caused the most casualties. I was under the impression that my ability only turned Plague docs. Honestly, we shoulda Mrused me early and then dual spread for the majority of the game. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:52 L wrote: I was under the impression that my ability only turned Plague docs. Honestly, we shoulda Mrused me early and then dual spread for the majority of the game. You were my watcher target the night after Ace, but that didn't end well. Doh >.< | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
It spreads by night roles. But the majority of the night actions were kills and healings, stopping the murrayitis. So basically it didn't spread as fast as we thought it would. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 12 2010 10:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Mafia had NB which by the oracle they could direct via the bus, and they had murrayitis (which I had expected to spread more). Drugs dealer could have been used on cubed. I think mafia had enough weapons this game. Town only had 2 vigs which died if they missed and only had one hit, a mad hatter that kills himself, a zombie that gets one hit from the grave and the town hero if he got a lynch right. It was that the third party turned on the mafia that caused the most casualties. 2 Vigis Mad hatter Zombie Double lynches Town hero which adds up to 10 KP for 9 Mafia. - whoa? vs 2 Scum KP + "1" Our random +1 KP can hit us and is by nature random so the fact that we have to use a busdriver negates any advantage that kill could have for us. Then you have a role that says where the KP is going to hit so docs can just smash it. That same random KP actually almost cost us because it targeted NB and we had to come up with a busdriver action to save him. Above all else our KP could be reduced to 1. That is A LOT of hoops to jump through. I understand that the modkills threw this off but when the Town only lynched 1 Scum player successfully, then has a confirmed 3rd party hit 2 Scum that's either a ton of luck or a ton of KP that the town could throw away and still come out ahead. Either way like I said, the town only had 1 successful lynch. I also understand the mrus thing. It was a good mechanic. If we had a bit better communication with some of our Scum team maybe it would have done more damage. Still that doesn't ignore the fact that there is 10 KP for 9 Scum out there  This is our QT that we stopped using because we just stayed in IRC later: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/w6BP87KQvQ5 On November 12 2010 10:50 infinitestory wrote: i think that the town KP and superpowers certainly balances out with the fact that the mafia can share roles and have a significant amount more information than the town, and that allows the mafia to manipulate better next post is 1000 so im thinking about saving it for something edit: although admittedly like 500 of my posts hav been in mafia forum When the Town has a lot of power roles, and certainly in a game where it's all Power Roles the Mafia pretty much NEED to have a lot of members or super roles to have a chance. The Scum will always start with more information than the town but that doesn't mean the Town should have enough KP to kill over half the Mafia. Normally you want the town to at least have to lynch correctly a few times to win and at the end of the day they only lynched correctly once. If the town had played a bit better or we played worse then no amount of Scum manipulation would have helped. 10 KP, lots of medics, a few roles to stop infection, 4 information roles and some good game planning would have stomped us into the ground. Remember only one lynch was on a Scum and it was still a contest. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On November 12 2010 11:03 LunarDestiny wrote: instead of arguing about the balance in the game. Why don't you argue against the difference between a tracker and a watcher? It makes sense /end argument | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 12 2010 11:03 LunarDestiny wrote: instead of arguing about the balance in the game. Why don't you argue against the difference between a tracker and a watcher? Just read about 20 pages back when I used that one to stay alive. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 12 2010 11:03 LunarDestiny wrote: instead of arguing about the balance in the game. Why don't you argue against the difference between a tracker and a watcher? Heh he didn't have to believe what he was saying, just to convince others. Pandain, L (mafias) KtheZ, and youngminii bit, but there were still enough votes against Ace to force him into a deadly role claim. My role never pointed out who Ace targeted or his alignment so I knew the hit on deconduo was the only out, but I didn't anticipate a third party that could have been responsible. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On November 12 2010 11:08 Ace wrote: Just read about 20 pages back when I used that one to stay alive. That was so fucking pro I was laughing my ass off while I was watching you defend that one. So fucking great. Why did the third party target infundi anyway? That seemed random. They must of doubted that pandain was actually mafia and just assumed he was retarded. But I think its hilarious that we as mafia spent two days bussing pandain and failed, then that night me and Ace die after posting KILL PADAIN posts all over the place and it practically cemented his blue status when it was supposed to set us up for late game. Fucking epic. But jeez, I really thought when we were Ace and L were defending themselves against third party and Kita and attacking pandain and pandain STILL kept siding with them and supporting what they were saying you guys would realize something was off. It was hilarious, I wish there was an IRC log of me yelling at pandain. There was a lot of it. Great game overall guys, I had a fuckton of fun. We need more crazy games because they are what really make shit crazy and interesting, for me anyway. I think me and Ace talked about it on IRC a couple of days ago, but F11 are pretty linear but help with getting skill with mafia just for these insane games where shit hits the fan in grand style every fucking day. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
How'd I do? Good things, bad thing? Flaws and strenghts? Learning time n.n Haha I made so many slips and everything(such as reveal L's role when no one knew it, L EVEN BROUGHT THAT UP haha). I was just glad we had so many vet's on that team(ace...RoL...L etc.) Then they died and I was like "what the hell." Thank god L was there. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 12 2010 11:17 Pandain wrote: This was an epic game, and fun first time mafia! How'd I do? Good things, bad thing? Flaws and strenghts? Learning time n.n Haha I made so many slips and everything(such as reveal L's role when no one knew it, L EVEN BROUGHT THAT UP haha). I was just glad we had so many vet's on that team(ace...RoL...L etc.) Then they died and I was like "what the hell." Thank god L was there. how did u not die???? Like honestly HOW?? | ||
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