Haunted Mafia

On October 11 2010 14:39 jodogohoo wrote:

or he is just talking about the halo2 map =(

On October 11 2010 14:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Has a voting thread been set up yet?

On October 11 2010 14:56 Coagulation wrote:
omg i found incriminating evidence against myself

DoctorHelvetica was sitting at his desk deep within the Liquidvania jail. The jail used to be a dungeon when Dracula was in power and there were still bloodstains on the old stone walls. He heard footsteps coming down the hall, assuming it was the deputy warden coming to do his rounds he didn't even look back but just absorbed himself in his book on zombie history. The door creaked open and the footsteps stopped. DoctorHelvetica looked back at the open doorway but saw no one.

better post let the guys know

On October 11 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
NO i think we should all stop analysing and just keep voting for coag for no reason

On October 11 2010 15:02 jodogohoo wrote:

we should kill this guy

On October 11 2010 15:07 seRapH wrote:

i hope you're not actually serious -.-

On October 11 2010 15:12 Coagulation wrote:


then why on earth did you vote me??

On October 11 2010 15:14 NB wrote:

you should be able to easily tell that it is a simple joke... the fact that you just want to kill a random people means that most likely you are a mafia or vampire...

even if you are neither, having some kinda random vote like you will ruin the logical of the game

the above reasons are why i voted for
seRaPh

On October 11 2010 15:36 aztrorisk wrote:


ya, don't forget to vote for masq because he is a pyscho and has a picture of him carving a face on a pear like on a pumkin.

On October 11 2010 15:43 Coagulation wrote:
how the hell are you gonna vote for me when there hasnt been a single shred of presentable evidence to imply me as scum

yet your going to defend the most heavily implicated person here???

sounds like there are hidden motives to me.

On October 11 2010 15:21 Coagulation wrote:
how do vampires and mafia know who else is vampire or mafia to vote for count/godfather??

On October 11 2010 21:38 seRapH wrote:

um who else would i vote for? the "clues" are manipulable and can be considered flimsy evidence at best. i'd rather just vote for people and see how you react, which in your case cant be considered great. you even went the extra step and asked:

to me, this is suspicious. enough for me to not change my vote. not doing a great job of clearing your name in my eyes, coag. add BM's analysis from above and not a pretty picture.

On October 12 2010 02:06 jodogohoo wrote:
lol spydr zerroth and flicky defending someone who is clearly guilty, hmm

On October 12 2010 01:22 Pandain wrote:
##Vote Pandain

I think I have a good read on him

On October 12 2010 02:42 jodogohoo wrote:
CKSide
d3_crescentia
southrawrea

On October 12 2010 05:42 NB wrote:

everyone should be worried about getting lynched =.=.... you die => game over >.<....
and i dont trust you either

let me summaries: you inspected him as a test for his reaction? and i vote for you bc you are inspecting too early? and now that google spread guy is inspecting me since i voted for you? ~_~... wow thats confusing...

If you were red you would stay low.... hmmm, i dont know about that. This is my 1st time playing this game online but i think mostly this is the game of "power". The more Power you gain, the more people will listen to you and the more people will try to get rid of you... Balancing is the way to go who ever you are. (stating this fact will make me get killed most likely -.-)

again, most likely i will change my vote so w.e.

On October 12 2010 06:45 Pandain wrote:


No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams.


the yum yum says no

On October 12 2010 07:29 Lucktar wrote:
Kind of hilarious how much people try to read into everything that's said here. I suppose it makes sense, it just kinda surprised me. That being said, it seems that until the first night, we don't really have any information to work with. So whether we lynch Masq or Veldril or coag or whoever, it's pretty much a blind guess. Seems that the blues would be pretty reluctant to make any moves toward finding each other/townies yet, but perhaps not. The only people who strike me as having a great deal of incentive to post would be the mafia/vamps, to try to stir the pot and get people jabbing at each other.

My analysis might be way off, but hopefully it's at least somewhat useful. I'm sure somebody will decide that this fingers me as scum, but whatever. They'll probably say that mentioning somebody accusing me is trying to preempt that, too. Oh god, everything I say just makes it worse. Owel, I'm noobie at this, and reading all the paranoid back-and forth is fun.

On October 12 2010 07:42 MetalFace wrote:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but when/where/how do we vote who to lynch?

On October 12 2010 07:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ghost haunting does not prevent a witches curse. Ghost haunting only blocks an action that would kill the haunted player, it does not block bombs, role checks, boogeymen, or frames.

On October 12 2010 08:12 aztrorisk wrote:
As a result, best case scenario for the town:

ghost decides to save me
witch decides to curse me
vampire brute decides to kill me
mafia decides to kill me

this would mean:
witch curse goes to waste
vampire brute dies and vampire loses a kill point
mafia loses a kill point

I think this is the most effective way to use a ghost haunt.

On October 12 2010 10:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:


We don't. For now, though, I am going to trust Pandain. He could be giving them bad advice, or he could be lying to us. That's the nature of this game, you never know when people are lying. However, we can give Pandain the benefit of the doubt for the moment so that things can unfold.

On October 13 2010 05:11 kingjames01 wrote:


I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role.

Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be.

NOTE: I accidentally posted this in the voting thread. Here it is again.

On October 13 2010 07:20 CubEdIn wrote:


No, you misunderstood.

I meant, if Masq is voted Count/GF AND fakes his role in case they're being investigated by detective (and of course fake a blue role).

I don't think you can be count/gf AND detective.

On October 13 2010 08:09 oddo123 wrote:
If either Masq or Vedril = gravedigger/creeper, how misleading would that be!

On October 13 2010 08:40 orgolove wrote:



Oh really. Then next time I should register my smurf as well so that I have double the information power? What the !@#$? How the hell are smurfs allowed? It gives such an outrageous advantage. If you truly allow this, I give up. Fuck it.

On October 13 2010 10:15 MetalFace wrote:


Heyo. Just to clear this up for you, I am in fact not a smurf. After starting to play SC2 a friend of mine suggested I check out TL because, as I'm sure you all know, this is the place to be for SC2 strats. I made an account so I could sign up for the NA TL Open, but unfortunately, couldn't make it. As for my low post count, I was never really one for posting a ton because A) I'm not all that good at SC2, and B) I'm firmly believe bad people posting just makes for bad forums. Realistically, why would I make a smurf account using a SC2 name that is legit?

And so I had been happy in my lurking until I saw the Haunted Mafia signup on the left hand bar. I had played a simplified version of Mafia IRL but nothing like this before.

Honestly, I have no way of proving this to you, but quite frankly, whether or not you believe me doesn't really matter.


As for voting, it's the first night and as much as you guys want to get really deep into the clues, someone has to die. Once we lynch someone, we'll be a lot closer to finding out who is mafia/vampire. There's like 5-6 people right now that we could lynch and and one of them would give us a ton of information as to who's who, but for right now we're just working off of a handful of clue and a mountain of speculation.

On October 13 2010 11:49 Glasse wrote:


or are you?

On October 13 2010 11:59 NB wrote:

new pair of masq veld on day2?
lmao =))

On October 13 2010 12:25 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I just got access to this thread and have no idea what's going on.

On October 13 2010 12:30 NB wrote:
lolol, im a genius!
IIRC solved our problem

On October 13 2010 12:49 jaminz wrote:
BTW the "detective" Bill Murray thinks he has is me. Is it true? O_o

On October 13 2010 13:13 Pandain wrote:
also bm told me via pm that he felt masq was more noob than scum.

moving on...

On October 13 2010 13:41 aztrorisk wrote:
Doctor H, how much longer must you torture us?

On October 13 2010 13:47 Bill Murray wrote:
dt is already checking you
sorry

On October 14 2010 11:12 Kpyolysis32 wrote:


Even lynching a veteran wouldn't be THAT bad, because he'll survive and then the boogeyman can watch him to see if anyone comes to kill him (I seriously doubt that vampires would use the brute just to kill a confirmed innocent and the boogeyman, especially if they continue to be short a man compared to mafia on that night, so boogeyman is probably safe doing this).

On October 14 2010 12:03 orgolove wrote:
Lawl Tunnel Vision alert!

1. You claimed to be playing in a mafia game for the first time, and yet you use the mafia jargon of a seasoned veteran.
2.You roleclaimed as a zombie in the first day. Now, would someone who really is playing mafia, and an INTERNET mafia game, for the FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIFE, have over 70 posts before even the first day ends? In fact, considering that you claim that you have a "useless" role (you even said it yourself), I bet a real first-time mafia would find it extremely difficult to have any enthusiasm for the game. And yet here you are - 70 posts later, as a first time mafia participant and, as you claim, a zombie.

On October 14 2010 12:20 jodogohoo wrote:
coagulation should die no matter what his role is. his posting in detrimental to the town.

On October 14 2010 12:24 KhrisKruel wrote:
how someone plays a game is not a reason to vote for them, even if they're annoying. Any green/blue lynches are bad for the town.

Voting for information is stupid too.

On October 14 2010 12:50 Kpyolysis32 wrote:


So? Why does that matter?
The way that I think it happened:
Seraph (and others?) voted coagulation based on his name and the clues
Coagulation responded sarcastically/jokingly
Seraph made the post saying he was going to keep his vote on coagulation due to said response, because sarcasm is not beneficial to the town
Notably later, coagulation brought up the vote in the post you quoted, and seraph's previously somewhat-reasonable justification seemed flimsy after candidates who were so much better has been presented, so he said the useless terrorist thing.

Although, that actually does seem pretty suspicious. tHe terrorist comment is very hypocritical considering the post I quoted, and the reason why seraph wouldn't just switch his vote away at that point is not apparent to me. I want to hear their reasoning for this.

On October 14 2010 13:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
LOL WHAT THE FUCK.

Did I intimidate somebody?

gl guys

On October 14 2010 14:22 aztrorisk wrote:


hehe, how are you so sure? If you don't like it, just ignore it.

On October 14 2010 14:27 aztrorisk wrote:


maybe you'll see my importance when I die and their happens to a pumpkin at your door?

On October 14 2010 14:36 KhrisKruel wrote:


you mean a day 1 shit fest in which scum got lynched? Yeah clue speculation doesn't work at all.

Unless you are a vampire of course. That didn't go well for vamps at all.

On October 14 2010 19:42 KhrisKruel wrote:
I want to put my two cents in about blue roles.

Firstly, if you have a blue role, for the love of god don't claim unless you have a good reason. Don't even hint at them. You are giving the scum more information to easily make their nightkills.

Secondly, don't discuss what blue roles need to do. NB did this during day 1, and he was the mafia godfather. Blue roles will do what blue roles do, and they will give us information when they want us to.

Thirdly, don't claim to people in PM's. Don't listen to them when they say others have already claimed. You have no idea if they are townie or not, and knowing who you are you will die and the town will lose a blue role.

If that person tries to gain your trust by showing you a PM of them from DrH, they're cheating. They can tell you any role they have. All role PMs are public. Also, we were given two role pms, one of which has been changed. How do you know he isn't showing you the one given before?

As a rule, people discussing blue actions and asking people to PM them are never trustworthy. I hope the newbies to mafia don't fall into this. If you are a blue role, do what you think is best and don't listen to what anyone else tells you. Don't play WIFOM games of "well if we talk abou tit, then it won't happen." Just do what you believe is best. Don't worry about failing. Failing would be letting the mafia influence your night action for their benefit.

As a rule I'm highly suspicious of anyone discussing blue actions publicly.

On October 14 2010 12:24 KhrisKruel wrote:
how someone plays a game is not a reason to vote for them, even if they're annoying. Any green/blue lynches are bad for the town.

Voting for information is stupid too.

On October 15 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:


Yes, it -somewhat- explains the number of messages, but then again, it's the kind of thing a red would do. Pick-up clues.
Also, the thing that urges me on is DrH's reaction to BM's threat. It's not damning, but it's sure suspicious. I explained why. He's not off my radar.

And thirdly, does't it strike you as odd that all but one kills were on target?
I mean sure, M/V have more information, but this was A LOT of information. Basically, only one or two of the kills tonight even came up in our suspects list, how did the others know who to go for?
I'm intrigued.

On October 15 2010 06:55 CubEdIn wrote:
Cool, I'm being suspected, makes me feel important!

Anyway, you can check, this is my first game, so I didn't really think that NOT voting for Veldril on the first hour of day 2 would somewhat incriminate me. I guess it makes sense, since it does seem that I tried to cast blame OFF Veldril TO Masq (and I did, lol), but it was also fairly obvious back then that Veldril would die if Masq is mafia.

This is reflected in today's votes, but me voting for him as well (now that I've been accused) will only look like an attempt to cover my tracks. I probably WILL end up voting for him anyway, since nobody else seems close to being more of a positive match, but since he's already heavily under the gun, I don't think my vote in particular would cause more pressure (he's currently top voted with 10 votes vs 2 votes for the next candidate).

However, my biggest problem as of now, is not who to vote for, since I already have Veldril to aim for, but who ELSE is a suspect.

Think about it, on day one we had masq, and then a shitstorm of posts that incriminated a lot of people (and if you don't believe that they did, take a look at the kill count in night 1). I, frankly, didn't catch those "hints" which has me worried.

If Mafia/Vamp managed to aim correctly since night one, then those hints were there, for sure. Why did we not see them as well? What are we not seeing now?

I need to go through all this thread again but I don't have time right now, and it's only getting bigger. After that (prolly in about 12h or so), I'll set my vote.
Frankly, I think that I'll end up voting for Veldril anyway, but I'm not convinced that he's Vamp just yet, I was way, way more "sure" of masq.
Downside is that, apart from him, everyone else is just a blur.

On October 16 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:



this looks like our best bet now if we dont get any major implications from night post.