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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 14 2010 10:11 GMT
#1577
BM PM'd everyone in the game and chased up responses very rapidly. 60 PMs with 50+ responses and then followups on many of those from 1 round of PMs makes me think it's very likely he's accumulated that many PMs
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 14 2010 10:21 GMT
#1581
Bedtime: Juicy discussion plz, no off topic crap that makes my 20 page readathon more time consuming.

When I get off work tomorrow, I'll be sinking into some more clues and posts. gl
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 15 2010 04:48 GMT
#1667
On October 15 2010 12:46 Pandain wrote:
no one continue to vote vendril.

I need to check something...and we have a whole 'nother day.


I'm currently voting because I live in Australia-ville and don't want to accidentally miss a chance to vote while I'm at work tomorrow. Be a pretty shit way to exit the game.
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 15 2010 05:56 GMT
#1668
On October 14 2010 14:54 Coagulation wrote:
I think fedora is more a reference to this

Mafia Skeleton - You are a reanimated skeleton enslaved by the Capone Mafia Family! You unquestioningly serve the orders of the godfather and live in fear of the Witches wrath. Working for the mafia has put a lot of food on the table for your reanimated skeleton family and you've always liked the idea of being a gangster anyway. Skeletons look cool with fedoras and tommy guns.


Not so sure. I had the same vein of thought when people were discussing the clues for Masq. I suggested that the clue simply referred to the JoL role, but as Dr.H pointed out:

Clues do not refer to a players role under any circumstance. All clues pertain ONLY to profiles, player names, and signatures. Nothing else. EVER.


Going to check through some profiles for this one
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 05:32 GMT
#1872
On October 16 2010 13:03 aztrorisk wrote:
hahahaha

I had a feeling, we should now blame the people that voted for vendril


On October 16 2010 13:04 jodogohoo wrote:
win for me =) good to see him dead regardless of his role


Someone tell me these posts aren't scummy as hell? Very disappointing result here.
Post analysis inc after dinner hopefully
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 20:57 GMT
#1917
On October 17 2010 05:55 zerroth wrote:
more chance vamps will kill you than mafia imo.
gogogo vamps, use ur brute oh wait..... lol dang first night and you lose ur brute



In the original thread it says ? out of ? brute's alive.

There may be more than one
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 23:03 GMT
#1929
e6na6yh91 3iw9g ay9:

pandain

anyone else wanna try at that code?
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 23:17 GMT
#1933
we're trying to break his code. I just used green to separate unknown code from known code
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 23:20 GMT
#1936
ok az, so let me get this straight.

You posted code in the thread.
You pm'd someone the code key.

In short, you pm'd 1 person a message and told every body else you've pmd a particular person, but the message is secret until you're killed.

What are you trying to achieve, and why the hell would you want to do that?
Moreover, who would you have PM'd? A townside you trust or a faction teammate?

This looks about as irrational as your original JoL roleclaim
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 16 2010 23:26 GMT
#1939
Why are you keeping secrets though? What could possibly make more sense once you've died?

a) You've been PMing someone and they've responded with ghost protection
- if you die, that person is lying to you.
b) You're just trying to cause chaos.

If a) is true, and assuming you're not foolish enough to PM the ghost your key, you've just given someone else the name of a ghost/key player. I damnwell hope they're someone trustworthy, because with all due respect to pandain, I don't think I'd be safe confiding any anyone with 100% certainty at the moment
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 00:23 GMT
#1963
dw coag, I receieved your secret agent decryption tools, and will reveal upon your death. Until then, my lips are sealed.

Honestly though, Azstorkisks message signals to me at least he's struck a deal with someone in PM. The fact that everyone is rallying around pandain and his message mentioned him (azt's "Ill just add more notes" post pretty much confirms annul got it right) suggests he's the liaison at the very least - no great news to anyone. What scares me is that it shows players are more than willing to just give pandain control, so he's in a position to swing the game however he likes depending on his faction.
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 01:04 GMT
#1994
I criticized you for making code therefore I'm a conformed killer. Love your logic bro.

I honestly doubt you're red, but I doubt you're a Jack either. I get the impression you're just embarrassed and throwing mud around to try to cover it up. At any rate though, I don't understand your angle.

either:
1 - you're scum and drawing huge amounts of negative attention to yourself which is downright bad
2 - you're the Jack and you think that by letting the town lynch you, you'll be nailing 2 reds and be a hero
3 - you're just bored

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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 05:21 GMT
#2095
On October 17 2010 13:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


BrownBear sat alone in his house, watching a movie in the dark. From the corner of his eye he saw a red glow in his yard. Figuring it was some sort of rodent pest, he went into the yard with a bat to scare the thing off. He shut the screen door behind him and turned on his flashlight. He saw nothing there and as he turned back to go inside he could hear footsteps run quickly behind him. He turned around and swung his bat but yet again there was nothing to be seen.

Frustrated and scared, he opened the door and took one step behind and was immediately crushed with a single blow to the back of the head. He would never see what killed him.



The Day ends on Tuesday at 1300 KST (TL Time)


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=thegilaboy

Dark templar picture in the profile links very easily.
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 05:43 GMT
#2097
Analysis inc:

-When Pandain was asking for Blues to RC to him, he claimed to know several JoLs

On October 12 2010 09:56 Pandain wrote:
A little birdie told me theres another bomber.

I will be coordinating where the bombers will place their bombs, if anyone wants to help they can pm me. However, I will be attempting to keep the bombings a secret so that mafia don't know when its a safe time to kill aztrorisk.

If anyone wants to help, they can PM me, but they will not know the results of where the bombs will be.


-LSB said "oops" jokingly to pandains "DO NOT CLAIM TO BM" post (suggests relation)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159453&currentpage=48#951

-LSB bombed youngminii, but hasn't made a single post referring to, responding to, or quoting him.

-Pandain DID take a (small) stab at youngminii for posting illogically

On October 13 2010 09:02 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:58 youngminii wrote:
Why Veldril must die.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2010 00:56 youngminii wrote:
Your argument consists of the following:

"People already think I'm mafia so no matter what I say/argue, people will think I'm saying that because I'm mafia".

We are not idiots, there are people here that have been playing mafia for years. If you actually posted something of value as your defense, we may be swayed in our decision to lynch you. Instead, you act like you've already given up and that you have no defense.

I'm sure everyone has a friend that never apologizes and instead says "well what do you want me to do, I can't do anything about it" instead of a simple "sorry". This is what you are doing and as such, I want everyone to vote for and lynch you. If you aren't scum then at least we've made an example of you as WHAT NOT TO DO.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


so your argument is: Masq is not defending himself, therefore he is not scum. Veldril is, therefore he is scum. Please clarify this for me.


-LSB upon death: "I took one for you pandian, go use your life well"

In the thread, they didn't communicate to each other beyond LSB's "oops" which I feel was more of a tell than he realized.

What this all boils down to however, is the link between Minii and Jodogohoo.

On October 12 2010 14:45 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 14:43 youngminii wrote:
yeah jodogohoo post constructively god

<3


This post along with the previous conversation [see pages <= 37] shows Jodogohoo possibly sharing a team moment with youngminii.

Pandain's seen it I'm sure, which is why he and LSB decided to bomb YoungMinii. If he turned up red, then Jodogohoo would also be red. DT check or not, pandain knew through this kill. Couple it with Jodogohoo's erratic posting, constant vote changing and carelessness for who gets lynched, and he seems like a very obvious target.

For these reasons, I'm voting Jodogohoo.
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 07:21 GMT
#2108
Pandain said he DT checked you to be a vampire. If he popped town, what incentive would he have had to lie about that? explain why he's wrong Jodog
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 17 2010 08:43 GMT
#2118
On October 17 2010 17:35 orgolove wrote:
Oh wait. NOw that I think about it more, the dt that was talking to Pandain... lied lol. "dt checked Jodo as vamp" but he's been modkilled as a grim reaper, lol?


Ugh, I don't know anymore. Going back to Bill Murray's replacement.

glurio (or at least, his predecessor, Bill Murray).

The two confirmed vampires, bumatlarge and youngminii, were very visible in their defense of masq:
youngminii
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote:
ebwop

by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:37 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:
RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED

I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here.
1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something.
2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum.
3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction

Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction.

What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


I'm one of the people who stood by my vote for Masq since the beginning, and I noticed something, which may be a coincidence.

Everytime we zoned in on Masq, something happened to made ppl lose focus. First it was Veldril, then azo, and so on. All the while Masq is saying NOTHING, but voting.

And it's easy to go and defend Masq when there's way you'll be lynched before the end of day.

And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing.

Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this.
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote:
What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat.

I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour.

Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it.

Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post)

I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell.

And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril.


And all three turned out to be vampires.

In the same vein, Bill Murray even directly suggested having the ghost protect masq EVEN IF he's a red. lol...


Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 12:59 Bill Murray wrote:
There is no or. They are both scum. He is trying to save his own ass, and I don't blame him whatsoever. Masq is way more harmless than Veldril.

I suggest this: protect him.
Mafia WOULD NOT suggest this, but we need to possibly keep him alive. The reason we need to keep him alive even if he's mafia is so we can be guaranteed to not let the other faction meet their condition.

Lynch Veldril, and if he's mafia, have our ghosts protect Masq, or vice versa
we can keep him alive to maintain a side. we need to play both sides.


Why else would he be so vehement about not lynching Masq, unless he knew masq was in his faction?


I don't think pandain did DT check him. See my analysis on the previous page as to why I suspected Jodog (and why I believe Pandain did too). He bluffed a LOT in this thread. The more control he appears to have, the more likely it is people will rally behind him. My take anyway
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 18 2010 18:31 GMT
#2182
gotta go to work,
voting to avoid a modkill atm.

I like the analysis from Nemesis. Looks pretty solid.
Will post when I return for sure
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 19 2010 04:49 GMT
#2235
we're gonna lose this from modkills alone -_-
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 21 2010 05:25 GMT
#2336
On October 20 2010 19:39 annul wrote:
i wonder

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=spydR

maybe "silver instrument" may not be the clue, maybe it is just "instrument"?


Just want to clear this up really quick: quoting from the original post:

Qatol turned around to defend himself but was met with a hammer. The silver instrument bashed his...


I think this clue refers to the kill we got on Artanis. The fact that the instrument is already described as a hammer and the fact that saxophones 99% of the time aren't silver (very nitpicky i know ) should make it clear I'm not a suspect here.

I'm skeptical of the clue linking to Hittegods because of his posting history and because the maniacal laughter that seems to be a constant theme running through the murders. His quote "This neo violence, pure self defiance" however, is from a song of which the opening line is: "
No no need for a baseball bat
Don't need no knife for a sharp attack"

I really don't know what to think :<
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spydR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia243 Posts
October 21 2010 05:37 GMT
#2338
Ah, I did miss that.

Even still, I'd say the hammer precedent makes it a pretty big stretch to be for me. I've got nothing to hide though, so analyze till you're happy
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