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On October 12 2010 03:33 YummyBlaBla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 03:28 NB wrote:
WHO INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS?
I am considering between seRapH, jodogohoo and Veldril
If masq is truely the Jack-o-lantern, its "ok" to ignore him. Would not take risk only killing 1 blue since 1 blue life is SO MUCH worth compare to killing jack...
Reason i choose those 3 people:
seRapH: check my previous posts
jodogohoo: He changed his vote ALOT. The best way to explain this is that he likes to "agree" with people on lynching somebody. This means that he, in fact, does not value the "risk" that we have to take when lynching somebody or in another way to say: "He seem to know who to avoid killing". Most of his posts contain very "simple" logic and mostly "agreeing" with someone else on lynching people. If i have to change my vote right now, i would vote for him. I denied the possibility of him being a noob since his post counts is 2k...
Veldril: His biggest mistake was try to protect masq VERY early on. If that didnt cause enough attention toward this couple, Masq went a head and "agree" with Veldril's protection. => What this means is that instead of voting for masq, vote for Veldril is a MUCH safer option comparatively since Veldril has much more "power posts" than Masq. If both Masq and Veldril have equal chance of being mafia/vamp, why dont we remove the "harmful" one b4 the "harmless" one?
Now im off to do homework >.<... but i will replay if you have any questions toward my logic :-) The Jack-o-lantern hint is a clue. I don't think it means that the clue refers to the blue role.
It does not refer to the blue role. Dr. H has already said so.
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On October 12 2010 03:43 CubEdIn wrote:
I don't agree with the "we won't be able to gather enough votes on Veldril" thing.
It only takes 3 people to change their vote to tip the scales in Veldril's favor. And those who voted for Masq are probably suspicious of Veldril now as well.
Agreed. Plus, there are still some people who have not read/posted, so we'll see where our discussion takes us. Maybe we can tip the scales towards Veldril.
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On October 12 2010 04:17 orgolove wrote:
oh fuck, I meant deconduo, not jcarlsoniv in the last post sorry
Lol I was gonna say...
My vote was also for Veldril, not Coag. That was a typo and I already asked the kind Doctor to fix it, which he has.
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I was wondering if we could get some clarification of some of the votes.
seRapH - 2 - NB, coagulation - (L-29)
jodogohoo - 1 - youngminii - (L-30)
ShmotZ - 1 - KtheZ - (L-30)
aztrorisk - 1 - d3_crescentia - (L-30)
These are the 5 votes I'm not so sure on. Any information will help us make a decision.
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On October 12 2010 04:42 annul wrote:
FYI masq is not the jack o lantern
the mod said that clues do not point to ROLES only to things in peoples profiles and shit
so the jack of lantern picture and the jack o lantern clue does not mean he is the jack o lantern role
He is not necessarily the Jack-o-Lantern. It is possible, but the clues don't reveal anything about roles.
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On October 12 2010 05:08 Pandain wrote:
In addition, it seems like the MAIN reason why we are voting Veldril is because of his support of Masq. Therefore, wouldn't voting masq actually be a better choice because
1.We have a more direct clue and more obvious towards him
2.If Masq is town, that lends a whole bunch of credibility towards Veldril
And what information do we gain from lynching Veldril? We don't even know if Masq is town/mafia if veldril is town, since Townies make mistakes and defend the wrong people all the time. But if we lynch Masq, we gain info on all the people who defended him and accused him based on his role.
Masq is a better lynch than veldril.
All we have on Masq is the jack-o-lantern clue, and that he was happy when Veldril defended him.
Veldril, on the other hand, has defended Masq, tried to deflect focus, has been very outspoken, evaded suspicion, etc. I believe that Veldril is the more dangerous one of the two, and, as such, should be removed.
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On October 12 2010 05:18 orgolove wrote:
But jcarl, it may be that's just the way he plays the game.
Of course this is possible. There are oh so many different possible scenarios in this game, and Day 1 is just full of uncertainty.
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On October 12 2010 05:40 jodogohoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 05:33 seRapH wrote:
@NB i accused coag from the start because accusing people is a good way to get a reaction from them, and with that you can garner what you will. in this case, i believe the reaction i got from the terrorist is simply too shady to ignore. if he were a townie, he wouldn't be so much worried about getting lynched than hunting for the real reds. why should i accuse randomly instead of using the clues? because clues are very vague, and can be twisted every which way, i don't trust them.
if i were red, i'd stay low, until i know who i can accuse without attracting attention. i'd see that people thought masq was a good choice to accuse, and jump on that. or maybe masq was in my family and then i'd reserve my vote until someone else with a lot of votes not in my family comes up. TERRORISTS!
Unnecessary.
Your posts have been plentiful and, for the most part, lacking quality. You are stirring up unneeded disruption/conflict. You will be gone soon enough.
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Hmm...so I have a question for Dr.H.
If a ghost is out protecting someone, are they still able to be killed on a Mafia/Vamp hit? Or would the hitman just go to the ghost's "house" and see no one there?
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On October 12 2010 06:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 06:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hmm...so I have a question for Dr.H.
If a ghost is out protecting someone, are they still able to be killed on a Mafia/Vamp hit? Or would the hitman just go to the ghost's "house" and see no one there? The ghost will die in this case.
Alright, that's what I figured, thanks.
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On October 12 2010 06:40 jodogohoo wrote:
stop derailing the thread and cluttering stuff up
Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P
Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to.
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On October 12 2010 06:47 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 06:45 Pandain wrote:On October 12 2010 06:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2010 06:40 jodogohoo wrote:
stop derailing the thread and cluttering stuff up Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to. No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams. the yum yum says no i dont think jcarl is red, but i do agree with this post.
I don't disagree with Pandain, I'm just trying to help out. It is important to find a lynch target, but equally, if not more important to make sure our blues are being used well.
Sorry to step on your toes Pandain, you can handle that.
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On October 12 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 06:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2010 06:47 seRapH wrote:On October 12 2010 06:45 Pandain wrote:On October 12 2010 06:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2010 06:40 jodogohoo wrote:
stop derailing the thread and cluttering stuff up Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to. No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams. the yum yum says no i dont think jcarl is red, but i do agree with this post. I don't disagree with Pandain, I'm just trying to help out. It is important to find a lynch target, but equally, if not more important to make sure our blues are being used well. Sorry to step on your toes Pandain, you can handle that. And whos to say you will help them use it well? Who's to say you're not mafia, leading the Medic to protect their own scum. Or even an innocent townie who gives bad advice. If you really want to help blues, tell them what they should be doing. Like this: Dts: check suscipcious people, active people, vets, Medics: protect people who you think will get hit, especially pro town seeming ones, and me n.n Vets: try to soak up hits, pretend as other blues. Mad hatter: place carefully. If you really have a good read place it on them. + Show Spoiler +yum yum goes to play sc2 yum yum
Pandain, it might be MORE helpful if you actually use the real Role names instead of general mafia ones. Especially for the newer players, like myself, to know what exactly you want done.
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Masq voting for Veldril...
Very interesting. Not sure what to think about this. O_o
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On October 12 2010 09:50 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:41 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Or maybe it's just mind games to play on us townies Oh wait, if its a mind game, that probably means that Veldril is scum and they want to muddle the waters into a giant mess of WIFORM. But maybe Masq is scum and he just wants us to come to this conclusion, and by doing this we'll waste a lynch as Veldril will be falsly accused Or Or Or.... mind explodes+ Show Spoiler +Sorry just had to do that
And, hence, WIFOM, haha.
I'm still gonna stick with Veldril for now.
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On October 12 2010 09:58 YummyBlaBla wrote:
How do you know you're not mafia/vampire!??!?!!?
We don't. For now, though, I am going to trust Pandain. He could be giving them bad advice, or he could be lying to us. That's the nature of this game, you never know when people are lying. However, we can give Pandain the benefit of the doubt for the moment so that things can unfold.
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On October 12 2010 10:01 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 10:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2010 09:58 YummyBlaBla wrote:
How do you know you're not mafia/vampire!??!?!!? We don't. For now, though, I am going to trust Pandain. He could be giving them bad advice, or he could be lying to us. That's the nature of this game, you never know when people are lying. However, we can give Pandain the benefit of the doubt for the moment so that things can unfold. even if he is red, his objective would be the opposing reds, and not townies unless his faction starts to lose too many.
Which is why I'm comfortable letting it happen, at least for Day 1.
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Care to share what it is?
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On October 12 2010 10:32 aztrorisk wrote:Hey guys, I have finished a chart about all the possible outcomes. Note that these favor charts are according to my POV and it would be impossible to represent the POV of everyone here. As a result, feel free to edit this chart yourself with what you believe seems to favor one position more than the other. http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g291/rox33rox33cool11/chart.pnghere are the trends associated with the chart: -mafia tend to fare better when they are less involved. -Towns fare about in the middle between involvement and non-involvement with makes the ghost choice about a 50-50 decision to come or not to come -Vampires tend to fare better by not being involved or sending a brute. However, due to the trends with the others, it seems that sending a brute would work to their disadvantage as non-involvement seems the better choice. -note that the outcomes contains many other variables and a % of good outcomes for your side will be highly inaccurate because people might be more likely to be non-involved than involved. Pandain said that there is another person claiming to be a bomber and I would like to say that you guys should denounce this thought until someone comes out and admits it on the thread so I can publicly denounce them for the fraud that they are on this thread. Right now, this "fraud" if he does exist, is trying to denounce my position while refusing to accept the risks (such as being a target).
Honestly, I am going to take zero stock in this. Your last posts have all been nonsense. You keep telling people to stay on track while trying to stir up conflict. Your claim has caused nothing but trouble.
Who is to say that there is only one bomber? I don't remember ever reading that there would only be one of each blue. (Correct me if I'm wrong) You are being very vehement and playing stupidly. If, in fact, you are the JoL, you haven't helped anything by announcing yourself. You have painted a huge target on yourself, and have given M/V more information than they had, while giving the town very little gain. If you are M/V trying to stir up trouble, well then good job, you have been. I am going to be largely ignoring you because it isn't going to help me at all.
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Orgo that is at least the third time you have posted that exact same thing. I understand trying to gather information, but it seems more to me like you are attacking BM.
Everyone is suspicious, and everything that has been said can be put under scrutiny.
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