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Foolishness
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On September 24 2010 18:53 Incognito wrote: Pandain/BrownBear have been completely inactive today. What is up? Also RoL please vote! So has your partner, my partner, and BC (I guess not 'completely inactive' but you get the point). | ||
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Foolishness
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On September 24 2010 19:22 meeple wrote: That was an awesome game... but taken out of context you can't say that I need to act the same every game. Behavioral analysis can only go so far... I was a power role then, and as such I acted differently from when I'm a townie, as in this game. I haven't taken stands because as far as I'm concerned there's no stands to take... I haven't been really confident yet... although one is starting to develop. You seem to have developed quite the following... when you cast a vote you have a couple buddies that nod along and sheep with you. Are you confident enough in your analysis to say that you should be next when we flip green? I'm definitely pushing team 8 if you flip green. | ||
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Foolishness
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On September 25 2010 05:10 Pandain wrote: EBWOP: LSB's contradiction isn't so criminalizing anymore as I now note he said "we don't have to use no lynch today. " so still suscipsious, but keep that in mind. Also, ##Vote Team One Okay, but what do you have to say about the link between teams 1 and 7? From my point of view (and probably Incognito's as well) voting for team 1 is the same as voting for team 7. | ||
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On September 25 2010 17:53 Incognito wrote: Dang I'm good at being pro-mafia. I'm too disheartened to defend myself, so go ahead and lynch me. I will still be voting for Team 1, although nobody is in the clear at this point. This is our last chance to lynch a mafia, and nobody's really done a good job at looking pro-town at this point. Did you really just say that? | ||
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Foolishness
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On September 26 2010 10:53 Incognito wrote: Its pretty sad I guessed wrong both times. Night 1 it was between Ace and our team, tonight it was between Pandain/BB and Team 2. Guessed wrong both times and someone died. Actually my fault, since there were slightly more interesting reasons to protect both Ace + Pandain/BB. Not thinking T_T You're guessing wrong again with your vote there by the way. Consider a few things from my perspective (that I'm green). You wanted to kill team 1. Team 1 voted to kill team 6 yesterday, and team 1 originally voted to kill team 2 the first day (before moving to No Lynch). After reviewing the votes and suspicions it doesn't seem to make much sense for any of the mafia to have voted for their teammate. Assuming that nobody is linked to team 1 (except for rastaban and I). Your teammate revealed that you were either red or blue. Apparently you're claiming blue now. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now and believe your claim, although I'm sure other people are going to have something to say about it. Thus that leaves teams 2 and 6 as mafia. Vote: team 6 | ||
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On September 26 2010 11:59 Infundibulum wrote: i did? i need to start posting on no sleep fix'd | ||
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On September 26 2010 12:45 Infundibulum wrote: Really though, where did i say that? I feel dumb now Doesn't really matter. Just look through all of BC's posts and tell me how he could possibly not be mafia. | ||
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Of course this is all from my perspective (assuming I'm green). A big part of me feels like we should just kill team 2 now and let team 6 and team 8 duke it out over who's medic (the more time they have to argue the more obvious the real medic will become). | ||
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Foolishness
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As I said, currently I believe the IN's that they are the medic (subject to change of course). I already said twice how it doesn't make much sense for team 1 to be mafia because it doesn't seem plausible for them to be related to anyone other team in the game (except for Rastaban and I, but that would mean one of you medic claimers is green, which is not right). That means that teams 2 and 6 must be mafia. There's not really much else I can say because it seems obvious from my perspective. I realize that that means very little from your points of view. Honestly I don't know why I expect anyone to change to team 2, I'm keeping my vote on team 6 probably, it just makes a lot of sense from my perspective. I'm not going to push it because I don't want to distract from the medic debate going on, since we'd probably all agree that's the most important topic in the town right now. BC being inactive through this is not helping your case though. Infundibulum is the one convincing me team 8 is medic, not Incognito. | ||
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1) We have a medic, which doesn't make sense since they would have said something by now. 2) There is no medic. But this does not make sense either since Incognito and Infundibulum claimed to have protected themselves. If they were mafia, it'd be much more plausible for them to say they protected team 3 (or any other team maybe). This is because they'd instantly be seen as confirmed, and rastaban and I would instantly be on their side, and they'd virtually have no way of losing. Also consider that it'd be believable for the mafia to hit us (team 3), especially given that people were talking about it during the night. Long way of saying what we pretty much already know, but it's more reason not to doubt their claim, and more reason for us to focus on teams 1 through 3. I still think team 2 is mafia at the moment, but I'll be looking. | ||
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Foolishness
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I still say team 2 is mafia over team 1 since it doesn't make much sense for team 1 to have been voting for their mafia buddy the other day. You haven't even commented on this "process of elimination" that I have posted about multiple times have you? I already said that it probably doesn't mean much to the rest of you but when it's plain obvious to me at the moment it's hard to say anything more. At least team 1 has put in effort to defending people. When we were lynching team 7 they backed them up properly. If they were mafia (team 1) why bother putting up their mafia buddy as the other lynch, especially since RoL and BC looked really bad due to inactivity and lack of contributing. They could have easily just pushed for team 2 since team 2 was taking heat from the first day. Team 1 has made those long posts, has tried to figure things out. Have you seen team 2 do any of that from any of their 3 players? Not so much. SouthRawrea makes a semi-long post from time to time but that's about it. Not to mention, I just went through 2 past games with each of these three. When they weren't mafia they were much more aggressive in their posting and calling people out. I haven't seen any of them perform as they did the last game when they were town. Almost all of their votes have been "yeah I agree with you, let's vote this guy", and Divinek just pulled it again after you accused me. If you ask me, the choice between hitting you and hitting rastaban and I isn't an easy decision to make. That's probably debatable though. And yes dude, I realize completely that I probably haven't been performing up to my usual town standards (although I thought my meeple analysis was sound at the time). And yes dude, I realize that rastaban hasn't really done anything in the thread this game. But I'm sitting here trying to figure things out and making sure that I'm not wrong about team 2. Team 2 hasn't done anything but blindly vote for anyone who's not team 6 (except when it was clear team 6 was getting lynched). | ||
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Foolishness
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The day when we lynched meeple, team 1 argued not to kill them because they thought they were town. That doesn't say much about what their role might be. However, they chose team 6 as a better lynch than meeple and company. It doesn't make much sense for team 1 to be mafia and accuse their mafia buddy like that. Especially consider that everyone was in agreement that RoL and BC were incredibly shady (I highly considered switching my vote from meeple to team 6, but didn't). If they were mafia, why try to deflect votes off of meeple onto their mafia buddy? They could have easily tried to push it on team 2 or us (team 3) given that rastaban and I have been relatively inactive and team 2 already had a bunch of arguments against them on the first day. I look at this and say team 1 is probably innocent. I didn't need to look at someone's exact wording and call it "sketchy". As I've said before, since I know I'm town, this leaves team 2 as mafia. Since you don't know that, why is team 2 mafia? Simple reason being they didn't vote for BC and RoL until after teams 8 and team 3 did. Yes I realize that neither did team 1, but they showed more signs of "let's try to figure things out" than "well better join the bandwagon so we don't look suspicious". Further more, team 2 has hardly done any analysis or thought posting of their own. If you look back, they have all frequently only voted for someone after seeing someone else doing it and saying "wow that makes sense you must be right" and not saying anything more. You can call my analysis of meeple "sketchy" (I thought it was fine, but I was a tad bit rushed) but at least I tried to post something that nobody else had, which is much more than team 2. LSB has at the very least tried analyzing people, and has been posting his thoughts. Pyrry's been a bit off, but keep in mind Pyrry just played a game where he spent the entire game (almost literally) spamming away my posts and trying to get my lynched because I was mafia, and he turned out wrong. Anyone who had done that and went into their next mafia game would be scared to call out anyone or do analysis because of their huge commitment mistake (I think I recall Pyrry saying something like "I know 100% certainty that Foolishness is mafia". If team 1 is mafia, at least they deserve the win more than team 2. Not that that means much. I've also noticed that team 2 has hardly done any actual defending. I'm defending myself while trying to show that team 2 is mafia. Team 2 is more or less not defending themselves, and trying to push rastaban and I as mafia. Wouldn't you agree it's much harder to defend yourself as mafia? I'm sure Pyrry could comment on this with his wonderful definition of "chainsaw defending". Vote Team 2 | ||
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Foolishness
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On October 01 2010 10:28 Infundibulum wrote: ugh so it's literally up to me, i have the deciding vote. this sucks Look at team 2 and their lack of wanting to figure things out. Even if you think I'm all "sketchy" like your partner, I'm legitimately trying to figure things out, and I have been this whole game. Team 2 has done nothing but agree with other peoples' analysis without posting their own. Look at how they voted for team 6. Rastaban and I were one of the first few people to vote for them. Why would we vote for our mafia buddies so early? Especially considering I had posted things saying I was suspicious of you and Incognito earlier. It would've been easy for rastaban and I to go against you. My original plan on day 2 was to lynch meeple and if he turned up green to get you lynched. Wouldn't have been hard for us to jump on you guys and agree with RoL. At the very least we could put our votes on you. 2 members on team 2 voted for team 1 as soon as the day started (bum and divinek). This was probably cause they thought it'd be an easy lynch since Incognito wanted to kill them. Yet as soon as Incognito says that rastaban and I are mafia, they both jump ship and agree. That should raise red flags. | ||
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On October 01 2010 16:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Fuck you Foolishness. Incog you have to guess their hit or we lose dude. Nobody ever says that when they're town haha | ||
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