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Pandain
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On August 31 2010 08:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: Radfield, you're better scum hunter than me. Martyr Fishballs, Medic protect citizen/Radfield/Me/Fishball I don't care which. FIshball's role>>Me GOOD CALL CITIZEN CV SR Why CItizen? If anything it should go between you and fishball, and maybe just maybe radfield. | ||
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Pandain
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Me thinks medics should protect Fishball. But at the same time this leaves Opz and Radfield open, both valuable players(whether for experience or in game events.) | ||
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On August 31 2010 08:39 Divinek wrote: i think it's safe to assume there is no roleblocker since no one has claimed to have been roleblocked? Or did i some how miss something like that.. Yeah I'm starting to think there may be no roleblocker. Regardless, by tonight we will know. I wasn't sure today because if mafia had roleblocked the traitor, then of course the traitor wouldn't announce he had been roleblocked. | ||
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Pandain
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On August 31 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote: If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying. Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked. The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good. Good post, and I've thought about it as well. In the new scenario in which we kill south and get nothing from LSB, then we know LSB isn't traitor and wasn't recruited that night. Then we keep having the watcher watch LSB, while we track Chaoser. Watcher will be able to tell if LSB was recruited or not. Meanwhile, we can get chaoser to confirm himself eventually(via bad santa list.) At the very least, we will be able to stop them from getting an additional scum. | ||
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Pandain
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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2. What was the result of the watcher/tracker. 3.Fishball who did you check and what was the result. | ||
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CV must've been roleblocked. Or he didn't shoot -.- | ||
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On August 31 2010 10:26 SiNiquity wrote: CV had to shoot else he'd be dead. Mafia wouldn't NOT attack someone as that's just stupid. So someone was supposed to die and didn't. Isn't it obvious? Mafia roleblocked CV. Either because they wanted to frame SR, or because SR is traitor /mafia. | ||
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Pandain
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Radfield was killed. This can tell us a number of things: 1.Mafia did not need to interefere with the traitor situation beyond the roleblocking of Rastaban. I'm assuming rastaban was role blocked. It is the only logical outcome. Note: They did not roleblock the tracker ,nor the watcher. They roleblocked the CV. And what was the CV going to find out? LSB's alignment. 2. They were scared of Radfiled. In addition to Radfield just being a beast Mafia vet overall, this probably means he was onto them. Expanding on this, Radfield was most suscipious of JeeJee, as am I. This is why I am voting JeeJee right now. Why not vote regarding the traitor situation? That should wait till the next night. In addition to being able to do another test via tracker,watcher, and CV, there is a good chance Chaoser will have been able to use his Bad Santa ability(if he hasn't already.) By using that, we know we have a non-traitor. So there's that. Now, stuff people need to claim right now. 1. Chaoser, if any of the people have died on your list and/or you have been able to use your ability. 2. Who was roleblocked. Specificaly, Rastaban were you roleblocked. 3.Opz and Bum, what did you find? | ||
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Pandain
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On August 31 2010 23:34 citi.zen wrote: Just to recap all the stuff what we know/was claimed thus far: #1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2 #2 Chaoser --- Likely Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge #3 LSB --- Prince of Darkness, was watched + visited by one other person night 2 #4 #5 #6 Southrawrea --- Claims he picked Traitor but got vanilla #7 #8 Fishball --- claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2 #9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball #10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2 #11 BrownBear #12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1 #13 DarthThienAn #14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball #15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1 #16 #17 #18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2 #19 Pandain --- Claimed Martyr, we know he isn't pardoner For completeness I will attached the "plan" list as well, since this might be what the mafia reasonably expected people to go by: #1 Comp Vig #2 Bad Santa #3 Prince of Darkness #4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD #5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each) #6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role #8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role #9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role #10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker) #14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.) #15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other #17 50% role cop, 50% other #18 50% Joat, 50% other #19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other #20 50% tracker, 50% other Little more helpful. Also, If I can figure out who a person is, but it would be a good role, should I tell everyone so they can protect him/her. | ||
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Pandain
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Just a couple things I need to know from Ace 1.Does rastaban still count as visiting if he gets roleblocked. 2.Is it possible for roles not to use their night power and not get modkilled or something. | ||
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Pandain
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If a scum (role cop, lets say) didn't use his power, and was tracked, would it lead to the dead person? | ||
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Pandain
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And we can just shoot him at night. Also, I want you citizen to track JeeJee tonight. Finally, If anyone is copy cat please claim now. And I want the other person to confirm it. The other person doesn't have to claim a role, just confirm the masonship. Cause there's three people possible to be roleblocker, and two to be traitor. And South is on both of them. ##Unvote ##Vote Southrawrea | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote: Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window? Even if SR is a VP, its a 1 for 1 trade. In addition, it helps my super secret idea. | ||
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On August 26 2010 00:23 SouthRawrea wrote: One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:. Also I just found this little gem. Don't know why I didn't realize. This post is just way off. First off, he's happy that he picked traitor, then he says that someone picking traitor in the top 5 isn't "a huge deal." Finally, he says they might be mafia. A traitor would not be mafia, they would just be a treachorous townie. SR is just so... inauthentic(whats that word) | ||
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Pandain
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On September 01 2010 05:36 citi.zen wrote: I love how you drop in the thread to stir the pot every now and then. You never follow it up, never point fingers, you just raise these coy little questions. Unless someone accuses you that is, then we actually get long posts. Right out of the mafia manual, right? Give the town nothing. Fishball and SR are my top suspects. Then there's the roleblocker, who has to be one of BrownBear, JeeJee or DTA. Oh wow, you know that's my plan. You say as long as we aim right, but all that matters is we find the RB eventually. They will have to roleblock him in order to delay. Anyway, Its not JeeJee. DTA would've claimed being roleblocked(since Jeejee visited him night one.) He's either alignment cop or Joat or doctor. But if he's scum the only reason he would be alignment cop is to delay roles, as mafia already know all the alignments. In addition, he's not doctor since he claimed to have "been able to confirm that citizen is telling the truth and opz is lying". Therefore, he's either a scum alignment cop(doubtful) or Joat, joat being the more likely. But now I'm starting to think he may be a townie Joat/alignment cop, who thought he had been able to confirm what's the truth, but then realized either he had a sanity part, or realized he didn't have enough info. If he's town joat, he investigated darth, as why would he protect/talk to him on first night? In addition, he definitely didn't shoot him. But then he wouldn't have been able to "confirm" the truth. Therefore, he's town alignment cop, or scum alignment cop/joat. | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:35 SouthRawrea wrote: I was saying that to throw people off before I finally decided to announce the role. If I blatantly said that it wasn't a mafia candidate then people would know it was traitor or else what would be the point of announcing it? If I said that it wasn't a mafia role then one would think that I was outting a blue or outtin a traitor. You can"t have been outin a blue  . Also, why isn't it a huge deal. I mean, don't you think it would be important to have the knowledge theres a traitor in the top 5. Also vote for yourself, like you promised. | ||
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On September 01 2010 05:54 citi.zen wrote: [/i][/blue][/b]You certainly got me: I thought tracker was more powerful and failed to realize how awesome Bad Santa can be. Citizen, since I (believe I) know your confirmed, I was wondering what you thought about what we should do tonight. I was thinking that unless South is green, in which case we lynch LSB, we can focus on the roleblocker. I hope you've understood where I'm coming from on JeeJee. So our main possibilities are brown bear and darth. I would suggest cv hitting darth for three reasons: 1. I get more scum vibes from darth(see: "I know theres 4 mafia so..." 2. Me and brown bear are BFF's 3.This may be outside the game, but it seems to me the possible mafia canidates aren't that great, and I would think there would be at least one vet to lead them. Darth: already known for being pretty good at scum. I think Darth is more a sure thing to be mafia rather than BB. Of course, there's the chance both of them are mafia, can't discount that. | ||
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Pandain
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On September 01 2010 05:55 citi.zen wrote: One question: does a vanilla player get told if they were visited by the role-blocker? Yes. I asked Ace(whether in thread or out, can't remember) | ||
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