EPTAlso, f u citizen for stalking me this entire game, inactive or not.
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Also, f u citizen for stalking me this entire game, inactive or not. + Show Spoiler + So, where to now? | ||
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Also Fishball, wtf. If he doesn't have a gun, he's not Mafia, no? So why would you even consider voting for him? | ||
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These are just a few of the questions that must be resolved:
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On August 31 2010 12:08 citi.zen wrote: That's messed up! So ANY mafia with a role is undetectable via the tracker? I thought it was just roles that "visited" people that took me to the wrong place, not that any role makes people static. I probably would not have picked tracker if I knew that :-) This means I wasted the night check, I cannot ever confirm Chaoser. Should have just called out Opz yesterday and hear Radfield's thoughts on this. Yea, that's pretty wtf-worthy. A tracker tracks movement. This is Mafia, a game where several malignant individuals gather together and kill someone each night in close quarters. So just because the Don dons a bulletproof vest, it serves as a Home Alone style trick? "Yaa I'm home! heheh.." | ||
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Tracker - Follow someone and find out who they visited that night. | ||
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On September 01 2010 07:01 citi.zen wrote: If I'm red chaoser is lying, right? In that scenario I (red) called out Opz, only to be told by Chaoser(red) that Opz is innocent! It makes no sense, but nice try Fishball. All you are doing is trying to deflect. It's actually a great idea. If Chaoser is indeed red (and not even necessarily Bad Santa, could be any role with a made up list) then confirming a bunch of people who were pro-town (bum via very helpful watcher info, myself via fishball whose role was confirmed via zeks, radfield by dying) and slipping a mafia or 2 on the list is the best play possible.. Which is why lynching Chaoser, not SR was the move to make tonight. Confirming the list is way more imperative than this traitor bullshit, but it even has the benefit of removing a top 3 role should SR be telling the truth. But the town had to rush off and majority lynch. -_- gj. | ||
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Yes, let's assume that Chaoser is town and everyone is already confirmed, and then justify not lynching him because "it's not worth it." Great idea. Citizen you're a better player than this, what's with the bad play? | ||
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 Interesting that no one was roleblocked.. afraid of being tracked maybe?Chaoser: <3 for confirming 4 townies. Sorry we had to sacrifice you to do it As for the lynch, I don't see why we shouldn't lynch LSB. A Mafia lynch is a successful lynch is it not? And even though it doesn't reduce KP, it does reduce the Mafia win scenario (i.e. outnumber town). Is there really any disadvantage to lynching him now rather than later? Also, something to keep in mind: Rasta isn't necessarily cleared. He also wasn't necessarily role-blocked - if he were mafia, he could simply aim at the Mafia's target and claim roleblocked, as the Mafia kill would cover it up. Anyway, I'll check in the morning before I disappear off to work again [freaking hectic week]. | ||
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On September 03 2010 03:12 flamewheel wrote: Thank god for the "All" function. You guys post a lot >< I wrote a script utilizing the All function during BM's Mafia game. Finished it around page 49. Then the thread hit page 50. And the All function went away. ## Vote LSB | ||
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Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV
Without CV
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 01 2010 22:16 citi.zen wrote: So the plan: 1. Lynch Brownbear a)if mafia.... i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled. b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over. Everyone follow/agree? Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose. [/QUOTE] Disagree. Primarily with 1b's conclusion - if BrownBear's town, that says nothing about the existence of a Roleblocker or lack thereof. The roleblocker could be you. Steering the town doesn't clear you, and leaving out critical possibilities such as that out makes you even more suspicious. Your recent history of sporadic lying doesn't help either. | ||
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EBWOP: On September 04 2010 11:15 Pandain wrote: So the plan: 1. Lynch Brownbear a)if mafia.... i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled. b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over. Everyone follow/agree? Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose. Disagree. Primarily with 1b's conclusion - if BrownBear's town, that says nothing about the existence of a Roleblocker or lack thereof. The roleblocker could be you. Steering the town doesn't clear you, and leaving out critical possibilities such as that out makes you even more suspicious. Your recent history of sporadic lying doesn't help either. | ||
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On September 04 2010 11:50 citi.zen wrote: Wait, was DTA mason or "mason-er" - perhaps the person BM had connected with? Oh huh, I hadn't considered this. Never played in a game with a Mason before, so not entirely sure how the Mason role works. Surely the recipient doesn't gain a role. Given that there's only one Mason in the game, I assumed DTA was CopyCat and therefore got Bill Murray's role when he died. | ||
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On September 04 2010 12:04 Ace wrote: DTA was Copy Cat. I'll edit the post to clear up confusion. Excellent. Then this gives us a little bit of additional information: If Rastaban is town, then Divinek is town or equivalently, If Divinek is Mafia, then Rastaban is Mafia The reasoning behind this is thus: If Divinek were Mafia and Rasta town, then Divinek would've day vig'ed Rasta on day 1. Passing CV on to Darth (Mafia) would've been completely worth it. Also, more discussion here before lynching, thanks. + Show Spoiler [To CV or not to CV?] + On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote: DTA was copycat huh (pretty sure there was only 1 mason this game, but with BM dying first CC would get his role)? Hmm down to 9 with 2 Mafia left... at this point, is it advantageous to keep the CV? Suppose, worst case scenario, we persistently hit town (I don't foresee this given the large number of confirmed players, but again worst case here): With CV
Without CV
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). The fact that JeeJee was killed, confirming Fishball's claim that he was not Mafia, sadly does nothing to confirm Fish himself. Although I'm admittedly surprised Mafia would go after JeeJee rather than someone on Chaoser's list. Hmm... Also who did Fish confirm last night? ## Vote Rastaban (unless someone can show me how the above plan is bad). | ||
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On September 05 2010 01:17 Pandain wrote: *sigh* Stick with the plan, guys. There are a number of flaws in your argument. For example, you say that if Divinek was mafia than he would have certainly used his day vig on Rastaban. But doing that would be certain death for divinek, so I highly doubt even a 1-1 trade would be good. Add to that the fact that the mafia has roleblocker and you can tell they wouldn't even need to worry that much about him. There is no guaranteed Roleblocker. Please stop purporting that as if it's fact. The gist of the argument here is LSB was Mafia, Rasta (as Mafia) would not want to shoot one of his own, therefore he aims at the Mafia kill (overlapping with it) and then claims roleblock. Rasta shooting LSB is the only time anyone in this game has been allegedly roleblocked. Finally, let's look at your counterargument. You're supposing Divinek is Mafia, Rasta is town. I agree, Divinek would certainly die. However, the Mafia would then not only be in control of the CV (which again, in your scenario they were not), but we wouldn't even know who it was! This trade is easily worth the sacrifice of a single Mafia member. In addition, you yourself say that they can both be town. What are you doing then? You're getting rid of a sure fire lynch we have right now(Brownbear) for a maybe, just maybe lynch. I do not see anything guaranteeing that Brownbear is Mafia. I hope you're not basing your argument on the existence of a roleblocker. Furthormore, add what I have said above about Rastaban to the fact that Rastaban started the whole suscipsion of Divinek(which Mafia would NEVER do at this late in the game.) Agreed, Rasta Mafia and Divinek Mafia is an unlikely combination, which is why I suggest lynching Rasta over Divinek. The point of this lynch is three-fold:
I appreciate what you're trying to do Pandain, but let me be clear: I will not be ordered to do anything. Nor will I accept any plan that is essentially "ok guys so here's what I think? Good? OK good let's go." I've held off on voting previously because I wanted discussions only to find out the town's majority lynched someone by the time I come back. Sadly this town likes being led by the nose and will vote for the first plan thrown out there (which recently happens to be yours). I don't like it, primarily because you are not confirmed. | ||
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On September 05 2010 01:22 Pandain wrote: In addition, we have a new confuzzlement. The Killing of Subversion. How did he die? CV couldn't have done it(wasn't able to yet.) Mafia wouldn't have done it. Day vig was already taken care of. So that leaves two options: Joat or weak doctor. I'm thinking perhaps either of these should claim, especially the doctor. We need him to keep on "protecting" scum. Or is there something I am missing.... Please discuss before claiming, don't want to give mafia unnecessary info if they don't need it. Yes, you're missing the fact that Zeks admitted to it (Serial Killer). | ||
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 ## Unvote Rastaban (I don't want a bandwagon going anywhere while I'm gone this evening). Info I'd like to hear before lynching anyone:
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On September 04 2010 11:44 SiNiquity wrote: With CV
Without CV
The tradeoff here is Mafia is guaranteed one more hit which will of course hit town (whereas CV has a chance to hit Mafia). However, it also gives one additional use of the Bullet Bill and Tracker, while also removing a potentially dangerous role should the CV turn out to be Mafia. This is of course presuming Fishball is town (tracker seems to be pretty handicapped with the roles taking priority). | ||
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So in my opinion, Rasta and Divinek is impossible. Is this 100%? No. Mafia could just be terrible. | ||
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