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On September 02 2010 08:04 Pandain wrote: Opz I <3 you. New change: Tracker tracks Darth. We lynch Brownbear tommorow. Amazing catch opz OH SURE YOU GO WITH THAT but you dont even acknowledge the analysis i did on how fucking useless and not helping town this scum bastard has been all game. Yes we should lynch him  | ||
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On September 02 2010 10:53 citi.zen wrote: I survived a hit last night. Also, I tracked lsb to myself. ##vote LSB Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge are the confirmed people now so i trust you entirely, what is it we are going to think about? I'm all for thinking though! | ||
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On September 02 2010 12:26 citi.zen wrote: Updated info sheet: #1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2 #2 #3 LSB --- Traitor, recruited night 2 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 Fishball --- Claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2 #9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball #10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2 #11 BrownBear --- caught lying about what he tried to draft #12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1, DTA said he did not get role blocked #13 DarthThienAn - Claimed JeeJee is not RB #14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball #15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1 #16 #17 #18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2 #19 Pandain --- Claimed Pardoner, then Martyr, then pardoner again, then said it was all a joke In addition to LSB we have the medic or JOAT who saved me (thanks) and 3 reds in here: Fishball Brownbear JeeJee DarthThienAn Divinek Pandain There is role-blocker and at least another mafia traveling role. well i think bb is pretty much a shoe in and since ill eliminate myself but even if you dont wanna believe that then it's what Darth, fish/pandain? im confused with pandain because he's lied alot lol, which makes no sense for a townie to do in his position. But why would a mafia lie about something so silly as well, doing dumb shit like pardoning when he knows it wont work then lying about how it didnt go through blah blah | ||
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On September 02 2010 15:29 BrownBear wrote: ... You know what, since people are ignoring me, fuck it. Go ahead and lynch me. You'll be wrong, and you'll all feel really stupid. you've been 100% useless this whole game, why do you think we shouldn't lynch you? Other than some wifom argument | ||
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should for sure for sure protect a confirmed townie because mob will have to be gunning for them! | ||
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yes we should for sure lynch lsb cause #1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2 #3 LSB --- Traitor, recruited night 2 #8 Fishball --- Claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2 #11 BrownBear --- caught lying about what he tried to draft #12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1, DTA said he did not get role blocked #13 DarthThienAn - Claimed JeeJee is not RB #15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1 #19 Pandain --- Claimed Pardoner, then Martyr, then pardoner again, then said it was all a joke that's the list of unconfirmed people, 8 out of 12. Thus 4 confirmed townies, thus there are 3 mafia remaining, thus we should kill the traitor and our comp vig asap, because he could be mob and that'd be reaaaaaaal bad but with 4 confirmed outnumbering the mob, and they know we'll be protecting those people, and one is a meth man, i think the mob is in a real bad situation right now so what do people think of killing lsb then rasta, or the other way is fine too whatever, cause they arent confirmed and they make excellent lycnhes at this point, getting rid of potential CV in mafia hands, and a traitor sorry for spam but after now ill be afk for 16 hours | ||
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On September 03 2010 07:24 citi.zen wrote: Very special. Thanks for be ing more active. Even if it's still not useful. that's why i almost dont care if we kill him immediately, unless he's roleblocker. Even if he's dead weight for town without a useful role he's dead weight for mafia, though if he's mafia and being this quiet im sure he would have a role. But id be game for getting darth popped tonight via some town kp. The thing is it's kind of silly to announce who is going to be hit because mafia are going to rb the hit if it's on mafia for sure, and maybe if it's on town. Soo yeah. ##vote lsb | ||
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On September 04 2010 00:20 rastaban wrote: Oh wow I am so glad you were able to clear your self with "I always play suspicious even as town", clearly there is no reason to ever suspect you from this point on out. Also the second part about being tracked, is a lie. Now did you know this or not is th real question. This is the reason I suspect you so much, You have 100% perfect cover, unless we have a legit alignment cop. DO I need to go over this individually. Role Cop: he gets that you are a KP role (Reserved acording to the plan you yourself said you were following) for only mafia. Bullet BIll: Sees you with a gun (Once again reserved for mafia so we could lynch on this) And now for the one you quickly jump to. Tracker: He will always see you staying at hope because your Day Vig role takes precedent. Here is the quote from ace that you seem to have glossed over: Once again I ask for you to answer to what I have said about you. Also read through all that I have said, I never once call your play scummy, I know that is your so called "Style" but I am arguing that you are playing from a position of deception. The crux of my argument isn't anti-town plays or that your posts lack content, but that you are speaking as one alignment and playing as another. A player may have a bad understanding of the game, say thinking lynching for information is good and will push for it. They are not helping town and they are wrong but they can still be town, that is why this argument can fail against players who are new or don't know what is the best course of action. What I am accusing you of is having that knowledge and admitting to it but then playing against it. See all the examples I cite above. Don't give me a 2 sentences and claiming you are clear when the method of clearing you we already know doesn't work. Don't you think you would have been tracked and cleared or confirmed already if it was that easy. sorry for the short reply i just skimmed it in the morning before i went to work ill actually read over it now! | ||
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On August 22 2010 08:48 Divinek wrote: i have a very pro town reason for not announcing my number though, which shall be explained if you guys keep with this silly draft list What is this Reason??? The reason is because i wanted to hit the same numbers as BM, because bm as a being is anti town so i wanted to make sure he was low on draft. Radfield had same plan! On August 24 2010 07:01 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + oh dont worry i stuck to the plan, even after the draft list changed i re RNG'd my role Here he claims he stuck with the plan. This is obviously a lie since he took a role with a gun, so now he shows as having a gun plausibly to the bullet bill and role cop would have seen day vig which meant we were suppose to lynch hum i had stuck with the plan at this point, me switching to day vig was pretty last minute you can get ace to confirm this after the game ends if you want lol. Yes, i killed a townie, but this was no ordinary townie, this was bm, he might as well be a traitor every game he plays. On August 25 2010 11:53 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + have you ever seen bill play. This is like the most pro town thing possible on day 1, it had to be done Here is his excuse to which I direct you to these insightful words that ver shared with us: " A point that will be emphasized continuously is the necessity to differentiate between mafia and bad townie play. You can't just lynch people and when they pop green excuse yourself by saying 'oh they were anti-town anyways.' The goal is to kill mafia, period. " Well i honestly didnt care if bm was red or not, yeah the goal is to kill mafia but on day 1 we dont have much of a chance at anything and really i just wanted to kill him because i thought it would be useful and FUNNY, god damn it did i enjoy it, if you want to lynch me for this go right the fuck ahead lol On August 25 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + i was partly hoping he would have some role that wasnt as dangerous, that the copycat could get. But really i just wanted to kill him. But ill take any bonus we can get. The bonus here he mention could have backfired terribly if instead BM had had a more useful role, there was not planning in this case to specifically remove a weak townie to void the copycat role. i realllly didnt care what role he had, but he was low on the draft list so it was safe to assume he didnt have anythign very good "Here we have Fishball, a long time player (who should know better) gladly congratulating Divinek for this play when it was one of the most anti-town moves possible." WHY WAS IT SO ANTI TOWN IT'S BM MAN On August 27 2010 08:38 Divinek wrote: oh we reached majority right before i got home well then my vote doesnt matter where it goes but i dun wanna be mod killed i wonder how many out of the 6 that didnt vote are scum ##vote hesmyrr Here I am confused, why throw suspicion on those who hadn't voted yet when he was one of them. It seems to me like a red feeling guilty for somewthing none had called them on. It is majority lynch, or course there were people who hadn't voted yet. it just seems that scum would hold off on voting if they can, you know, they dont often like to lead the charge! On August 28 2010 08:37 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + why would you tell them you're vanilla oh my god jasoifsjeiorjs hey look someone for the mafia NOT TO KILL why did you even sign up for this game if you have no time, you never seem to, it's seriously annoying Another mafia favorite tactic, calling out inactivity in others. This works great since they don't have to actually do any analysis (work) to incriminate people. brown bear is an inactive piece of shit, he always is and it irritates me. It's not just a fucking mafia tacitc it's a good one, you can't let these fucking people coast by cause one of them is allllways mafia. On August 28 2010 10:12 Divinek wrote: woah lol sick, who can kill night one? and good job medic! or vet or something, who took a hit? Why is he fishing for roles like this, hoping to know who blocked his hit? i explained this one to pandain, i wasnt fishing for a role i was asking WHO took the hit, jeebus On September 01 2010 09:32 Divinek wrote: Show nested quote + i never like ending someone's life without fully understanding why but if you wanna be on my balls about it ##vote SR He admits that he doesn't have a reason to lynch SR, but he is going to anyway because of town pressure. This sounds like a mafia how is trying to find a reason to cast a vote so they can point to it later and say, Hey look I voted because you all wanted me to. Townplayers tend to stick to their convictions since they don't have as much to lose. actually i think we call this being a SHEEEEEP, and that i actually believed town "" LOL, what is up with this, he is the one who randomly killed a townie day one, who is he to spout platitudes on who to hit. This post is such a 180 from his play it is laughable. blah blah i already said why i shot bm "" im gonna keep mentioning how i want to kill chaoser to confirm his list " Here is where we get into such a blatant difference from his actual play and what he says. The last three posts are calling out for lynching on reason, and only lynching mafia. And those things are great and correct, but his very next post is, him saying lets lynch Chaoser for information. No reasons on why he thinks he is red, but just so he can confirm the list. This is perhaps the biggest slip up he makes continually saying one thing while pushing for another." yeahh i contradict myself, but i figured confirming a quarter of the game was pretty good imo. "This is where we were when I started writing this last night. I think it is fairly obvious that his play style this game matches his game where he was mafia. He has been playing with what seems to be a hidden agenda, spouting verbally the right things but in practice pushing for the opposite. Only scum have a reason to try and make people think they believe one thing while they act in another method. While townies might make mistakes and do moves that are not pro-town at times they will act in unison with their thoughts since they aren't playing from a deception point of view." my play style this game also matches up with games i played as TOWN, im consistent homes id like to give you a big thanks for only pointing out the negatives in everything i said! If you'd like me to elaborate on anything, or feel i left too much out please feel free. Maybe you'll realize i play the same as scum or town if i die! | ||
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Really though i just felt like it wasnt going anywhere, so instead of making a mountain out of a molehill i just left it for now | ||
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On September 04 2010 08:53 Pandain wrote: In the end, it doesn't really matter. As I said, here's the plan. The basis of this strategy is just ensuring that we find the roleblocker fast, and then we just protect confirmed townies and lynch the unconfirmed. We can go via a personal preference. Sure, after we hit BB and Darth we should go after Divinek. Everyone follow the above plan. Town's got this, let's not go and fadoodle it up. yeah i mean even if you guys see me as mafia no matter what i say, you could probably leave me until you find the roleblocker, because you know i cant be rb! But i really am town! (good argument right) Also i honestly didnt know i couldn't be tracked properly, this makes me sad . I thought there might be a chance BB could clear me cause i dont really have my gun any more since i shot it but i doubt it'll work like that, right ACE.Also i remember a few games ago where mr rasta did a nice little analysis of chaoser like that to get him killed when rasta was mob himself and then they won cause of it lol. | ||
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On September 04 2010 12:06 Pandain wrote: IF brownbear is town, we should lynch me(as I could be rightly roleblocker.) Forgive me, I said we should do it in the paragraph but then forgot to put it in the plan. Thank you. But then after doing that, we should lynch Rastaban. Because me and Brownbear are the only ones who could be mafia. Oh yeah, frick. Hmm... we may have to waste a lynch on him then. True beans, true beans. In fact, perhaps we should have the CV kill Fishball IF fishball was able to succesfully check me. Then he could confirm me, and we'd have both one less unconfirmed and one more confirmed. So the plan: We lynch Brownbear a.If mafia i.If roleblocker, then we have CV kill Divinek, fishball check me, and then lynch Fishball in the mroning. Medics can protect confirmed throughout that. ii.If not, then we have the CV kill me, and in the morning lynch rastaban once you find out im innocent. If in the chance that the CV is roleblocked, then you can lynch me right away. Because everyone else must be another role, and I must be mafia(because Fishball and Divinek and Rastaban are all confirmed roles, none of which are roleblockers.) Okay, I'm working on the part where if he is town(which I think unlikely anyway.) But I need to know some stuff: 1. Is there a town roleblocker 2. Citizen, did you track brownbear. Was it succesful? 3.Ace, if BM masoned up with Darth, will darth show up as mason. i think that sounds most reasonable. I'm willing to die if brown bear is role blocker, im also cool with you dying because of all your lying if he's RB'er. But i do think that after brownbear the next lynch should be rasta for sure. I dont see how it changes much if he's town. I still think you or me should be cv'ed and then rasta lynched the next day. | ||
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Unconfirmed: Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball. as pandain said. so should i be the last one to die since you know i dont have a role that could be hurting town? (since we dont even know wtf pandain is) Or should my death be more pertinent because of my suspicious behaviour? Even though you know my only harm could be being a vanilla mafia at this point. Though would it be better to kill me because you know then you're not killing a potential blue role? But are blues even needed at this point, when we dont know if those are just mafia with roles? help me out objective confirmed townies Of course this is me wanting to live, but i'm also trying to look at it in a best way to help town. | ||
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On September 05 2010 06:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: Pandain. You are working under this assumption you are some how confirmed? =/ And lynching fishball at any situation right now, stupid as hell. Lynch for information, nah. We don't need to lynch him to confirm his checks? Why? Most of his checks are confirmed via Chaoser. I'm with Rastaban on Divinek, but I think Rastaban should CV him. ill gladly die for the team if you think it's necessary, but id much rather we hit a mafia first. Especially if they're controlling a useful role like CV or something. I think there can't be that many threatening roles left other than that can there? But pandain looks so juicy with his trail of lies. It's just like real life when you call someone on their bullshit and you corner then and they're 'OH DUDE I WAS JUST JOKING HOW COULD YOU NOT TELL'. Then again padain is 12 years old so maybe that is his idea of humour. And he has made all these big long posts that do look all townie like, maybe he's trying reeeeal hard. Almost the opposite of what I'm doing. I really feel like pandain is mafia, im sad that im too lazy to back this up with analysis, but it really is what i feel. Oh look im fanning flames by letting you know my opinion. Whatever use your own brain too! And though rastas analysis of me looks genuine, it still reminds me of that game he got chaoser killed where chaoser was a townie as i am, and he himself was mafia. But that reason alone really doesnt convince me of him, but we really should be taking a closer look at our CV and not be giving mafia 2KP at a near end to our game. Did rasta ever reply to my reply of his analysis? You shouldn't have some cookie cutter mold for what people have to act like to be of another alignment. Also opz why did you quote my post and then just talk about how bb voted for himself? Was that a mistake or were you gonna reply to it cause i really do want some real thoughts on that! | ||
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