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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On August 25 2010 23:58 SouthRawrea wrote: Well shit. I would like to announce that at least 2 people did not follow along with the plan made for role picking. if you're stating the obvious in BM / Divinek then yeah but if its something else other than that then i'm assuming the mistakes happened up top at #1-#5 please elaborate. | ||
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SouthRawrea
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On August 26 2010 00:18 zeks wrote: if you're stating the obvious in BM / Divinek then yeah but if its something else other than that then i'm assuming the mistakes happened up top at #1-#5 please elaborate. ...Yea...I was gonna say, BM and Divinek...but I'm curious too | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
if everything went according to that then the people who picked before you: rastaban - CV chaoser - Bad Santa LSB - PoD Hesmyrr - said he was picking anti-town role (if i remember correctly) Me - role cop / copy cat / defensive role (33/33/33) i know u shouldn't be announcing the role but this could be a place to start | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
I'd assume that it's Hesmyrr because he would probably believe that his 33% chance of getting a role that's probably already taken is useless. On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator. Since we are prioritizing copycat solely due to CV snipe possibility, and thus we need to know who the copycat is, how about giving it to completely arbitrary # that is between 5~9? This is my idea of how to make it completely fair. Look at the first post of five users in this thread right after this post: add the individual numbers of the post time. So referring to citi.zen post above mine, since it is posted 08:29 it should be 8+2+9=19. So after adding the numbers, if the last digits of the number is 1-2, then copycat goes to #5, if 3-4 #6, if 5-6 #7, 7-8 #8, 9-0 #9. ex) MY POST citi.zen (11:39) 1+1+3+9=14 citi.zen -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST- Bill Murray (12:57) 1+2+5+7=15 Hesmyrr (12:58) 1+2+5+8=16 Radfield (13:01) 1+3+0+1=5 Hesmyrr -IGNORED SINCE NOT FIRST POST- bumatlarge (15:43) 1+5+4+3=13 14+15+16+5+13 = 63, 3 is the last digit so #6 chooses a copycat. or of course we can just give copycat to #5 like citi.zen suggests. Are we taking measures to check if #5 will really take copycat like what I am doing in #4 spot? He also said this. I'm going to go out on a limb here and because he said his role is anti-town. Do you mind us lynching you Hesmyrr? I have a very good reason to believe that lynching you is a good idea if you indeed were the one who stole my role as my role was anti-town as well. The first 3 would have no reason to change roles as it's beneficial for both town and mafia to take those roles first. #5 would also most likely want JOAT or a defensive role as well. Thus my suspicion falls on Hesmyrr. I would like to know of your role. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 26 2010 00:23 SouthRawrea wrote: One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:. I think this actually can help us. It makes the role checker more useful. I think we should have the rolechecker start checking those of us near the top to see who didn't follow the plan and picked roles that they shouldn't have. SR you should have gone with JOAT. I don't know why you are picking something else unless you went with a defensive role, but then there is no reason it wouldn't have been taken before you. The reason I would like those of us in say the top 3-4 checked is that I am worried the mafia may have let a role slip through. And example would be if I took any role other than comp vig. Since I am taking it and no one else is then it would be possible for someone else lower on the ladder to get it. Now the town plan is currently to have a second vote everyday picking who we will vig that night, making it a 2x lynch. or if we abstain then a single lynch. If I don't follow the town vote then you lynch me the next day. If I had let the role drop then all of a sudden the threat of lynching me doesn't stop the mafia from using their KP. The comp vig role would be usable by a hidden mafia. The same hold true for the Prince of Darkness and Bad Santa. The reason they were made to be picked early is that we can lynch them guaranteed if they use there powers. It looks like now that someone let there power slip, and it seems that the most likely reason would be to hide that role with a lower mafia member. Thoughts? The problem I see with this is that maybe a lot more townies didn't follow the plan than we expected. SR already admits to not following the plan, Divinek didn't follow the plan as well. if everyone did there own thing then we may be back at square 1. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
i'm under the impression most of the top #'s went with the plan with one or two anomalies needless to say those anomalies are likely scum, and i feel strongly that there are scum lurking in the top 8. | ||
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SouthRawrea
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citi.zen
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On August 25 2010 10:28 citi.zen wrote: The first 3 spots should stick to the designated picks, and be held accountable for it. Fourth spot could choose roleblocker. After that the only thing you should be doing is randomizing between a defensive role and useful town role. Don't announce exactly what you do (ex: don't say you're 50% cop). Randomize honestly, we need defensive roles. On August 25 2010 10:24 Radfield wrote: I don't think we should scrap the plan. Stick with the plan, as it should give us a ton of good roles. The only addendum I think really may need to happen is picking up the roleblocker fairly high up. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
wont put me in a very good situation either... | ||
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SouthRawrea
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 26 2010 00:58 zeks wrote: ^ wasn't that the exact reason why we wanted the 33/33/33 cv/bs/pod for the #4 spot? i'm under the impression most of the top #'s went with the plan with one or two anomalies needless to say those anomalies are likely scum, and i feel strongly that there are scum lurking in the top 8. I agree, but we now have 6 saying he didn't go with the plan and someone else above him didn't go with the plan. so now we know for sure that 1/3 of the people in the top 6 didn't follow then plan. 1 or 2 in 20 might be an anomaly, but now we have 33% of the top 6 players not following the plan. The statement that there is scum in the top 8 though doesn't really mean much since that includes nearly half the players. There is very likely 2 scum in the top 8 and 2 in the bottom 8. Of course scum near the top is most likely more dangerous since better roles are more likely available. Now SR says he took an anti-town role but it was already taken. Obviously it wasn't comp vig, bad santa or PoD. That leaves traitor,Floridian, pardoner, role-blocker, vengeful townie, and maybe a few others I don't remember (KP roles?). why do we have 2 townies trying to grab up these roles? I thought the plan was that we leave them open to make the role cop more useful in finding scum since we lynch those with these roles. It made the town's investigations more powerful. South, mind explaining why you decided to do this? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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citi.zen
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
@Citi.zen You have no idea how mad I was D:. I thought I'd be sure to get Traitor and then this morning I woke up to find that Ace sent me another PM (as opposed to the one before the draft order) saying I was a vanilla townie. >< | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it. ....FUCK...Nevermind -_-...Any action? *sigh*...Okay...we need a bus drivet....-_- Anywaaaaaaaaaay....All to top 5 can die and I won't care? Except maybe Rastaban? =/ That sounds about right. But I'm all for spraying brains all over the place. Hes posted pretty town like before repicking...and suggesting he get CC...so.....I dunno how I feel about him picking Traitor. Would seem more likely LSB or Chaoser to me...They aren't usual with the activity... This will take some more time to digest, and the whole town should be discussing this. Citizen...How do you feel about Hes being the traitor? | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
On August 25 2010 09:25 Hesmyrr wrote: Right, I picked one of the anti-town roles using RNG generator. This could be a soft claim from him to the mafia as traitor. None of the actual townies would find this suspicious at all as we were trying to take roles away from the mafia anyways but the mafia would look at that and think, maybe he's softclaiming to us? They'd quite easily put any of their power roles on him to try and convert him if it's true. (They'd not bother using a KP on him obviously). | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
As for hesmyrr being traitor ill wait for his posts before making a decision | ||
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