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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:49 GMT
#1471
Actually strike that. I want everyone to vote for brownbear. Both are known mafia, but LSB is known to be a traitor while Brownbear could be a special role. Everyone vote him.

##Unvote
##Vote Brownbear

Your next LSB
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:49 GMT
#1473
On September 02 2010 10:47 LSB wrote:
Okay, I'll claim right now, I am the compulsive vigilntee. I accidentally picked the wrong role.

I'm very insecure and I didn't want you guys to think I was not able to read the list correctly.

To my suprise, I actually recieved the role! First Night I decided to try to kill Rasta (Since he claimed), it didn't work since he was medic protected.

This night I decided to try to kill Rasta again... but my, that little guy, he was medic protected again o.o

##VOTE: Rastaban Cause he's the traitor


LOL
I <3 you
Too bad hesmyrr picked CV. Mega faillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:50 GMT
#1474
Actually, you could still be valid. But that's stupid so I dont care
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:52 GMT
#1476
Oh and in case anyone might believe him, I'll disprove it right here.

He's claiming rastaban is mafia. However, rastaban is roleblocked. So why would mafia roleblock rastaban if they know he's mafia?

In addition, you would've said it right away.
In more addition, you killed my BFF.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:54 GMT
#1481
On September 02 2010 10:53 citi.zen wrote:
I survived a hit last night.

Also, I tracked lsb to myself.


##vote LSB


Your confirmed citizen, but thanks to the medic who protected you. What do you think about lynching BB instead because BB might be a good role(such as roleblocker!)

I mean they're both mafia, so why not lynch the more possible gain?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 01:57 GMT
#1485
On September 02 2010 10:54 BrownBear wrote:
I am so confused right now.

Pandain, if you are convinced LSB = mafia, why in the hell are you voting for me?


You didn't see your mega contradiction?



On September 02 2010 01:12 BrownBear wrote:
I'll add in, seeing as I'm still the only one who hasn't.

Picked Meth Man, got Vanilla.


On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote:
I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla.

And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off.


Your both mafia, but I think you might have a role. So I would suggest people to vote for you
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 02:00 GMT
#1487
On September 02 2010 10:58 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote:
On September 02 2010 10:54 BrownBear wrote:
I am so confused right now.

Pandain, if you are convinced LSB = mafia, why in the hell are you voting for me?


You didn't see your mega contradiction?


Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 10:56 BrownBear wrote:
-.-

I am vanilla. I sent a PM to Ace saying i wanted to be meth man, but I sent it after the deadline. I got back a PM saying I was vanilla.

Where's your contradiction now?



*sigh*
Fine then... I let you live SFA member.
For tonight
##Unvote
##Vote LSB


Hmm... who was roleblocked then. Watcher? Fishball? JeeJee????
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 02:09 GMT
#1494
Speaking of JeeJee... Fishball what did you find?

I have a sneaking suscipsion Fishball was roleblocked .

But since we were going to find out anyway JeeJee, how 'bout you tell us now?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 02:19 GMT
#1499
On September 01 2010 22:16 citi.zen wrote:
To keep track of it all:

#1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2
#2 Chaoser --- Bad santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge
#3 LSB --- Traitor
#4 Hesmyrr --- Picked CV, got Vanilla
#5 Zeks --- Role Cop, SK
#6 Southrawrea --- Picked Traitor but got vanilla
#7 Subversion --- probably Picked Role Cop but did not get it
#8 Fishball --- Claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2
#9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball
#10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2
#11 BrownBear
#12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1, DTA said he did not get role blocked
#13 DarthThienAn - Claimed JeeJee is not RB
#14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball
#15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1
#16 Radfield --- DEAD VANILLA ELF
#17 Bill Murray --- Mason
#18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2
#19 Pandain --- Claimed Pardoner, then Martyr, then pardoner again, then said it was all a joke


Plan draft list under the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness
#4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD
#5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.)
#15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other



Putting this up here. We know theres a mafia roleblocker. Out of the unconfirmed townies that leaves:
1.Me
3.Darth
4.Brownbear

Easy fabreezy. Listen, I know this sounds crazy, but why not hold off on shooting LSB? I mean, he's confirmed red. And shooting him early will be no different than shooting him later(especially in a non-lylo situation.) But if we shoot someone else and get the roleblocker, we can end this game much quicker and much more certainly.

That's why I say we wait until
1.JeeJee claims
2.Fishball claims what he found
2.We find out who was roleblocked, or if no one was.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:06 GMT
#1549
Guys we had a confirmed roleless mafia, and with how close the town has got this we could've went for a good mafia role, especially with so many suspects.
*sigh*

On September 03 2010 00:14 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh damn, I forgot to watch someone BALLS

##vote LSB


Lol its alright, I guess at least the mafia FELT threatened(thus no roleblock) And if it makes you feel any better, I almost forgot to use my role as well.
Citizen I guess I applaud you for taking the inititive, since if you knew you were town than you could assume Chaoser was most likely innocent. Therefore you knew LSB was mafia. Why would you track him? Afraid he was another role?
I know your innocent just curious. Thankfully, due to no roleblocker than obviously mafia felt scared . Why would they be...? Because they would've gotten caught. Let's see potential roleblockers:

Brownbear, caught in the lie most likely, slight chance he could be telling truth. Hasn't contributed much, inactive. Doesn't help town.
DarthThienAn-mafia slip up(4 mafia), long posts however. They contribute at the very least.
Me: Idk...make up a list why I could be mafia and I'll defend myself and my decisions. I've felt I've been at least trying to help the town.

I actually think both Darth and Brownbear are mafia. But let's also take into account the fact that citizen was hit:
Why would they do this?
1. Try to frame Darth. However, no one would've been roleblocked so why would that have mattered? He would've been cleared then(as clearly he would've freely used his mafia power if he WAS mafia and knew citizen was going to die.)
2. Darth is mafia role, visiting someone he shouldn't.
3.Darth is vanilla, and will be tracked to someone.
4. Just to try to get rid of confirmed townie(since rastaban was obviously going to be let to hit Chaoser, which would confirm Citizen.) In addition, citizen was a good role.


The thing I find most strange is the fact that no one however was roleblocked. I would think that means he didn't use his ability but then if mafia had a plan to kill Citizen, which would lead town at a uncertain decision between brownbear and darth(as either could've used their RB abilities that night.), then why wasn't anyone roleblocked?

Needless to say, it is all very confusing and most likely mafia was trying to get us to use lots of wifom.
Delving into that forbidden zone however leads to some interesting results. Let's say darth is mafia and had use his roleblocking ability. He could very well say the next day that it was brownbear who used it, and mafia was trying to frame him. One man against another.
If brownbear was mafia, than he would've easily used his roleblocking ability. Because he knew citizen was going to die and knew(wrongly) he could use this against Darth to stay alive more likely.

Using wifom is questionable at best however,and I suppose it is negligible. Is that wifom actually, since I sort of derived it one from another. I suppose I'm predicting their actions, so yes? Idk... use at your own peril.
So let's see:
Things we need to know:
1. JeeJee claim. Are you alignment cop? Or are you(I don't think so but...) medic.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:16 GMT
#1550
Also heres the plan:
So here's the possible mafia:
1.Rastaban(unlikely)
2.Fishball(I think unlikely, i'll put it at maybe)
3.Darth
4.Brownbear
5.Divinek(maybe/unlikely)
6.Me(I'm pardoner dumbpandas) [

Compared with the confirmed townies:
Sinquity, Opz, Citizen, Bumatlarge.

Compare it with the possible Roleblockers:
1.Brownbear
2.Darth
3.Me(I suppose...objectively.)

Now Don't lynch me......... Fishball can track me.

We CV Darth/Brownbear(whatever you guys want.)

I want medics protecting the confirmed list, and us to go through pottential roleblockers(except me),
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#1552
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:14 GMT
#1555
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:23 GMT
#1557
On September 03 2010 05:18 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?


Because he will be killed. And if brownbear is roleblocker you will have tracked him to Rastaban. and if rasta gets blocked then we know darth is the roleblocker.


Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:44 GMT
#1559
On September 03 2010 05:38 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:23 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:18 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?


Because he will be killed. And if brownbear is roleblocker you will have tracked him to Rastaban. and if rasta gets blocked then we know darth is the roleblocker.



This is what you proposed:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

Who will shoot DTA? And why would we shoot him over a confirmed liar who hasn't done anything the entire game?


ROFL epic fail. How would rastaban shoot himself? I mean for him to shoot darth.
1.He's not "totally" confirmed. Just most likely. remember that. I mean, his excuse is paltry at best and he totally said it way too late but I feel as of now that if darth and brownbear are both mafia, getting rid of darth will be better.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 03 2010 21:21 GMT
#1590
Tracking to confirm will result in a negative. Whether he is mafia day vig or town day vig will result in the same result.
Stick with the plan.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 03 2010 23:53 GMT
#1597
In the end, it doesn't really matter. As I said, here's the plan.

On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots Darth

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.


The basis of this strategy is just ensuring that we find the roleblocker fast, and then we just protect confirmed townies and lynch the unconfirmed. We can go via a personal preference. Sure, after we hit BB and Darth we should go after Divinek. Everyone follow the above plan.

Town's got this, let's not go and fadoodle it up.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 03 2010 23:56 GMT
#1598
Also, I suggest medics RNG between the confirmed townies:
Sinquity, Opz, Citizen, JeeJee(if fishball is town), and Bumatlarge.
I know I will.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 04 2010 01:53 GMT
#1603
cool beans cool beans. Fishball(if he checked me) can confirm me. Unless he was roleblocked -.-.

in either case, now we take care of Brownbear. He's the most likely person to be roleblocker. And if he's not, then we let rastaban mod kill himself because there might be no roleblocker.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for some night results and any new thoughts/ideas, but as of now people should remember that our target for this day will be Brownbear.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 04 2010 02:15 GMT
#1606
On September 01 2010 22:16 citi.zen wrote:
To keep track of it all:

#1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2
#2 Chaoser --- Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge
#3 LSB --- traitor, claims to have gotten visited night 2
#4 Hesmyrr --- Picked CV, got Vanilla
#5 Zeks --- Role Cop, SK
#6 Southrawrea --- Picked Traitor but got vanilla
#7 Subversion --- probably Picked Role Cop but did not get it
#8 Fishball --- Claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2
#9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball Then he claimed medic?
#10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2
#11 BrownBear
#12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1, DTA said he did not get role blocked
#13 DarthThienAn - Claimed JeeJee is not RB
#14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball
#15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1
#16 Radfield --- DEAD VANILLA ELF
#17 Bill Murray --- Mason
#18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2
#19 Pandain --- Claimed Pardoner, then Martyr, then pardoner again, then said it was all a joke


Plan draft list under the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness
#4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD
#5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.)
#15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other



From this list we can see that the only people who it's possible to be roleblocker are:
1. Brownbear
2.Me
We should lynch brownbear today, then if he's not roleblocker I should say we should lynch. In the case after lynching/killing both of us you find out none of us are roleblocker, than town should hit Rastaban as there obviously is no roleblocker.
Of course, if a townie picked roleblocker he should say so now, as that would ruin everything. I know it was partly discussed that it might be good for a townie to pick roleblocker so if a townie went along and did that then he should claim. Still, that's unlikely at best and even more doubt is thrown on it due to the fact that rastaban claims he was roleblocked night 2. Why would townie do that(unless he was going on his own inititive).
So if either Sinquity or (possibly) Opz(since opz has claimed like 3 things now) are roleblocker, than you should claim now.

Confirmed townies:
Bumatlarge,citizen, Sinquity, opz,
Unconfirmed:
Pandain(unless fishball succesfully checked me), Divinek, Brownbear(will be lynched today), Rastaban, Fishball.

Heck, lets just let rastaban modkill himself, and then it will be 4(3 if mafia succesfully kill someone during the day) confirmed townies to 3 unconfirmed(2 if fishball succesfully checked me.)

I think if Fishball managed to check me, and is town(therefore doesn't lie.), it will be 2 unconfirmed. But most likely if there is a roleblocker, he will have rb'd Fishball. However, anyone else find it strange that the CV wasn't roleblocked? Unless, again he was scared that Citizen would succesfully track him and therefore didn't use his power.

So the plan:
1. Lynch Brownbear
a)if mafia....
i.)if roleblocker, go through unconfirmed such as me(if fishball was roleblocked), divinek, rastaban, and fishball. Preffered order I suppose would be divinek, then me, then fishball, then rastaban. In addition, you guys might want to have rastaban let himself be modkilled.
b.)If town, then rastaban is mafia(since there is no roleblocker.) We kill him, and hopefully game is over.


Everyone follow/agree?

Then you guys can go through the rest of us I s'pose.

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