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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:53 GMT
#370
I can't post my role PM due to roles so I will paraphrase.

My checking takes longer than usual because I am Cautious Detective.

If I submit a check night one, I get the result at the end of night 2 / start of day 3.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:53 GMT
#371
*due to rules
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:54 GMT
#372
On August 10 2010 07:49 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I am detective.
When I am dead, go after:

Ace: Mafia
Bill Murray: Mafia / Ass

Sorry to town for playing like shit this game. GJ Ace for defenestrating the town with a scummy plan that couldn't be argued against effectively without the blues giving themselves away. The greens will see it as harmless and jump in, isolating, identifying and FoSing the blues who will be hurt by it. Very clever.



I lol'd.

Let me get this straight...

You are a detective right? But you must wait TWO days to act?

L
O
L

So you can't use your powers at all on Night 1, but somehow using it on Night 2 makes it all better? But you admit you played like shit this game, as if that's a reason to take sympathy on you.

Ignoring your play though this is what your entire role looks like:

You are a detective. Your penalty is that you can't act until Night 2.

Yea, ok. Whatever. If this is true then we all might as well stop playing this game because all our roles would be so bad I don't think Hessmyrr would have even created the game. Town would have no chance due to the possibility of starting off with a good shot of 2 mislynches (2 Day 1's) and the chance of 2 power roles getting clocked before we get it straight.

You're bullshitting.

You're right, it does suck. That's why I thought maybe we had a mute role that knew a mafia day 1.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#377
On August 10 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.


That's the thing, the mafia don't have any penalties.

@Pyrr: You know if you really wanted to save yourself you'd be trying to convince the rest of the town to change their vote. Not me. But you don't even seem like you care about living so if you die to a lynch it's your own fault. Toodles ^_^

If I don't get lynched, you just kill me tonight before I can use my role. If I die, people see why your plan was scummy and apparently that's the wake up call this town needs because they've been ignoring logic from LSB and I.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 23:06 GMT
#383
On August 10 2010 08:02 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:57 Ace wrote:
you dont KNOW who's blue. I've already proved it by showing the examples Hessmyrr used. READ THE THREAD.

Cute. I replied, and you know it. Those examples were easy to read.

Isn't that so annoying how he does that? He is so good at this slippery, headache inducing stuff.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 23:09 GMT
#384
On August 10 2010 08:04 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 08:02 citi.zen wrote:
On August 10 2010 07:57 Ace wrote:
you dont KNOW who's blue. I've already proved it by showing the examples Hessmyrr used. READ THE THREAD.

Cute. I replied, and you know it. Those examples were easy to read.


If you think that's the case I'll give you a simple task: come up with an idea of your own instead of complaining. You don't have to listen to me, you can just do something yourself.

See, like here: If you say his plan is bad he says "you don't have a plan." It's like liberals when they attack conservatives for "not having a plan" as if only the government can have a plan, when it's not a true assumption. You don't need a claiming plan in mafia; TL needs more role-less games, I think, so people can figure out how to play. We don't need an organization if individuals up they game.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 23:16 GMT
#387
So if we have some role that can protect me decently (doubtful), try to keep me alive?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 21 2010 23:59 GMT
#856
@Ace - I still don't think claiming was a good idea. Unlike you, I figured all of town had penalties (oh hey that's why it's called penalty mafia) so I figured everyone was more useless than normal but that there might be more blues than normal to balance things out. But I also figured there were a lot of green roles (notice that the stump role is basically a green role since it's power can never be useful).

At least from my perspective, you can see how shitty your plan was for my particular role. The only way I can use my power is if I keep a low profile until day 3. Also, my penalty is hard to talk about without making me look blue, in comparison to yours and others. Like I said before dying, your plan got greens to jump on board fast and it made the reluctant people (both DTs) stick out like sore thumbs. It gave mafia a bunch of blue sniping info on day 1, when our blues were penalized to begin with.

Your plan relied on the mod putting a super awesome vigi role in the game when the name of the game is "penalty mafia". I don't think you have grounds to say I was stupid to balk at your plan when it prima facie helped mafia a lot and only helped town if there was a more powerful than normal vigi in a game where the theme is roles being less powerful than usual. The only other benefit to your plan ever articulated was "I just wanted everyone to claim penalties so you could HOLD everyone to their penalties and kill off the liars asap." This is stupid because the mod made it clear that mafia was given fake penalties and the mafia can easily choose a penalty they can stick to without any repercussions (exhibit A: Scamp). Meanwhile, knowing innocent penalties gives tons of blue sniping hints to mafia, and it can also help them plan out hits based on when people can act since the mafia could tell when certain people are or aren't dangerous to them.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 22 2010 00:02 GMT
#857
Basically, I was right to lynch Bill Murray for lying but no one gave a shit. Not lynching BM after Ace died is sort of inexcusable.

I wanted to lynch Ace because I found his plan to be very pro-mafia and not very pro-town. I still believe that to be the case. He believes the inverse and now thinks I suck. I do suck at playing when I'm not red. I still think Ace is good but I also still think his plan made town worse off.
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