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wanna start! | ||
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Also, abstaining is kind of stupid. Will vote later tonight. | ||
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Not really convinced by him, and there's not really any other clear choice for me right now. | ||
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Wish you all the best On point, I was also in agreement about the weirdness of Foolishness's post, but now he's dead. Seems at the moment, mafia aren't making too many mistakes. Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote. | ||
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On July 20 2010 13:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: You speak of this voting block as though you weren't part of it... an important part too. I voted for him much later than anyone else. I wasn't part of that big block that was referred to. He got a lot of early votes, and didn't really do much of a defense. There was very little to go on Day 1, as usual. I may have been a bit of a bandwagoner, but I didn't really think he did much to get himself out of the situation. I voted for him because there was noone else I really felt worth it, and I didn't really want to abstain. | ||
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On July 20 2010 15:44 Protactinium wrote: Probably not today, unless we can find two clearly delineated targets. Ah, scrolling backward. With the whole Vet idea, let's not forget this: And don't forget he made the winning (or losing...) vote. Still don't know what is so suspicious about the bolded sentence  I was just saying that to basically say, I didn't see anyone that really looked suspicious, so I voted for the person everyone was voting for, who hadn't really defended himself. Also, I'd like to add I didn't think I was casting the deciding vote, at the time I voted it was 7-4, so I thought my vote was pretty inconsequential. Although someone later posted after voting that there had been an error in counting? The point I am making here is that I was a bit inactive at the start as I hadn't realised the game had started and was away for the weekend and I jumped on a bandwagon because there was noone else that seemed worth voting for. | ||
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On July 21 2010 06:09 citi.zen wrote: I don't know... I am leaning with Pandain here. Subversion is a brand new player who does not know what to expect in these games. I can see him think... "How do you catch mafia? You watch for mistakes! Have we caught any? Nope. Ah - so thus far they aren't making too many mistakes." I see no huge red flag. That said, he does not strike me as someone useful for the town so I am OK losing him if there are no better candidates. THANK YOU fucking hell. I played in ONE NIGHT of harry potter mafia, I got temp banned for some stupid joke and got replaced This is my first game ffs, I didn't realise what I said would make it "oh gg, he's mafia lol, what a fkn moron". I was trying to be useful Seems like everyone is jumping on my voting bandwagon, I get what I said was stupid now, although I still don't really understand why its a fucknormous mistake. I was simply stating what to me, was a fairly obvious fact. It was kind of a justification for my vote to be honest. I didn't see any major mistakes, I didn't have anyone I felt REALLY deserved a vote, but I didn't wanna abstain and I thought Hyperbola was fucked anyway. So I read what he said and what others said, there didn't really seem like any better choice, so I just voted for him. Like I said, I didn't really think my vote mattered much anyway. I also had Bill up my ass saying I was gonna be modkilled if I didn't vote! I really don't want to be voted out here, I don't want to roleclaim either, but I can if necessary?? | ||
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Someone stated afterwards that their was an error in counting somewhere, and there were 2 unvotes after that I didn't see. My vote only looks suspicious due to really poor timing =/ | ||
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On July 21 2010 09:31 LaXerCannon wrote: You don't vote for someone just because "they're fucked anyways". That's how bandwagons form. If we have a mafia starting a bandwagon, we _should_not_ just jump on it even if it's winning. I've already defended this a million times now I told you, there was noone else that looked better, and I didn't want to abstain. Sure, maybe I should've just abstained, but everyone was saying abstaining is stupid and I'm new and I didn't want to fuck up. Lol, that's gone great so far Also, why the fuck all the attention on my vote? Someone made a great post about how Hyperbola's fate was sealed in a block of 4 or 5 votes within an hour. Why is noone looking at those people? My vote came hours afterwards, when he was already circling the drain. It seems pretty clear to me that I'm just a n00b townie jumping on a bandwagon. Why has everyone forgotten about the big group of people that STARTED the bandwagon in the 1st place? | ||
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You're saying that Hyperbola was a mafia vote - but you're also saying the people who started the bandwagon with 5 votes are likely not mafia? That makes no sense =/ | ||
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On July 19 2010 05:38 Bill Murray wrote: If you wish to replace into this game, PM me, and I will replace someone who I modkill. I have class, so this will be the last vote count until I get back if I have time later. the day ends in a little under 4 1/2 hours, at 9pm est/10kst This is the message I saw. Voting was 6-3 and I was threatening to be modkilled. I didn't have a lot of time to go over stuff, and I didn't want to be modkilled. So I read over some stuff as quickly as I could, and looked like everyone had it in for Hyperbola. I didn't want to rock the boat, abstain, or be modkilled, so I voted for him. End of story. | ||
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But if you truly think it was a mafia instigation, it would seem that those original voters were at least worth looking at. I think my defense of my vote really does make sense, I don't know why I am the only one explaining myself here. Is it REALLY just because I said "mafia aren't making too many mistakes'? | ||
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But as I have stated now a million times, I was very rushed, didn't have time to look over everything properly, and was threatened with modkill. So after perusing some of the backlog, I had to make a quick vote. I looked for the most recent official tally (which was 6-3) and voted for Hyperbola as it was who I was leaning towards anyway and my vote seemed inconsequential regardless. | ||
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Still, not enough to win a vote. Still plenty of time | ||
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I liked most of it except the continued suspicion on me  You didn't really make any mention of my numerous posts in my defense? Did you read them, or did you just kinda think they were BS?Anyway, you've definitely swayed me towards Darth. Gonna vote for him so long, and change the vote should someone else seem like a better target. ##Vote DarthThienAn | ||
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On July 22 2010 05:33 Roffles wrote: Subversion's little mafia mistake statement is just weird all in all and was part of that voting block (everyone's already mentioned this) so I'll put my vote on him for now but I'll have to see. Still a full day left. There, you outlined it yourself. You acknowledge that his little mafia mistake is just weird, yet you still cast your vote for him. It isn't something that Mafia is stupid enough to slip up on, yet you're fueling the bandwagon even though you acknowledge that it's weird and unusual, not necessarily harmful in all. It wasn't actually part of the voting block. It was hours after the voting block that was discussed. I can't believe people still want to vote for me over one stupid remark tbh. The only information you gain by lynching me is "oh, yeah, guess everyone was right, he was just being noob". Despite so much more detailed and clever analysis on other players, people still want to vote for me? There seems to be much better things to go on. The reason I didn't vote for chaoser was because of his "test". He said he's going to "test something that may bite him in the ass or may work" and his test was voting for me. While I didn't know wtf he was on about, the whole idea of this test and the general lameness of the post, while sounding stupid, at the same time sounded sincere to me. I don't think he's scum, but I may be naive in that belief. Although, I think its time he tells all of us wtf that little "test" was supposed to be about? | ||
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if you really want me dead so fucking badly just wait a night. i was already informed by pm that saying that thing about roleclaim was stupid because now the mafia is going to kill my ass. so if you really want a ton of information, u'll get it when I FUCKING DIE. I can't believe all this shit is over one stupid comment. People have posted pages of post analysis, and you're still hung up over that. And I've defended my day 1 vote till I'm blue in the face. You really make me think you haven't even read it. And Pandain, I thought our PM love was true. </3 | ||
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hahahahahahaha. man, that would have been awesome if it was intentional. im in your head, derren brown style! | ||
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[QUOTE]On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote: 1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member. [/quote] And he had a reasonable explanation (panic'ed, got mod-killed in his first game for not voting on time, so he hurriedly voted since he didn't want to abstain). At the beginning of this day I would have been in complete agreement, but I'm leaning more and more towards it being a freak coincidence at this point. Much like I'm sure there will be some last minute vote for this lynching and whoever cast it will get dragged through the mud, justly or not. While I'm all for posts defending me, just want to point out I wasn't modkilled in 1st game for not voting, I was modkilled for getting a temp ban However, the rest is true, I did panic about getting modkilled in this game, as I saw my name in a list of potential modkill :O | ||
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Guys please wake up. Literally the only valid suspicion on me, is some stupid remark. We've got to stop banging that drum. Please can we pick a valid target. To be honest, I don't like this vote at all. I'm not particularly convinced that chaoser and DTA are scum at all. Although if I had to choose, I'd choose DTA. But really, I am not the right person to lynch here. When you find out I'm not scum, what information are you going to gain from that? | ||
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I don't really buy it though. I don't think youngminii has been any kind of vehement supporter of mine. I don't really feel anyone has consistently supported me, although many people have pointed out that I'm most likely innocent. And the reason about my day 1 vote is stupid. He wrote that as if he hasn't read my posts and posts a defending that. Posts which really made perfect sense. The only reason my vote looked suspicious at all was because people fucked up the count. | ||
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Which was obviously a mistake since I gave mafia information, I was told that was stupid via PM and I agree. It is NOT useful to lynch someone who has a valuable town skill! I guarantee you lynching me is not going to give you information, and is really going to set you back. Please fucking think about this now. I am NOT the best candidate. Lynching me is hugely risky, on account that I am telling the truth. Things we know about me: Claim blue Am noob - 1st mafia game essentially Vote based on one stupid remark, and a well defended day 1 vote Things we know about DTA: Claims not mafia, no claim of anything useful Highly skilled and experienced player Vote based on detailed post analysis and him playing out of character You lynch me, and I'm mafia, then you "apparently" have youngminii too. Any mafia is good so thats okay, although I disagree about youngminii. I really don't feel he's been a major supporter of mine. You lynch me, and I'm innocent, you lose a blue player, and gain zero information. You lynch DTA and he's mafia, then you have chaoser too. Since they did a little band together and vote for me trick, and chaoser seemed to jumkp on my bandwagon awfully fast. You also lynch a highly skilled and threatening player. You lynch him and he's innocent, you lose a vanilla townie who doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the game anyway, based on what people expect from him due to prior games. I am NOT the best lynch candidate, and the evidence against me is dismal. | ||
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I need to know if I'm being killed because I want to say shit before I do. | ||
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can sum1 please post an accurate vote count =/ | ||
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If I had to bet money on it, I'd say not one of the 3 major candidates is mafia, including you. But you're good at this game, and you may just be fooling me. If I'm truthful, I wish we could all change to another target. But that's not going to happen. Since I KNOW I'm not mafia and am useful to town, and thats all I really can know 100%, I think you're a better choice. I thought the post on you was a good one, although your defense has since led me to believe that you're probably town. The reference to your past character is not from my knowledge, this is my 1st game, but its from that post. Bottom line is, no I don't think you're mafia. But I don't know that for sure, and thus I know you're a better lynch than me, since I'm a really bad person to lynch. | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:08 SouthRawrea wrote: WIFOM= Wine in front of me Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc lolz, worlds most confusing paragraph xD | ||
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Mass select a new target? I believe me, chaoser and DTA are all innocent. | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:23 youngminii wrote: I do think Tree.Hugger is quite town aligned. Early I learnt that Tree.Hugger had PM'd people saying 'if we lynch subversion and he flips red, then we have youngminii'. I pointed out that if Tree.Hugger was scum and subversion flipped green, then I'd be 'safe'. There's no logical reason why Tree.Hugger would tie me to subversion if subversion is town and Tree.Hugger is scum. Why would you think this makes him town aligned? All he is doing is putting forth a reason to vote me off. Me being town, this would be a pretty scum thing to do? | ||
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Errr... elaborate? | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Townies don't know you are town so putting reasons to vote for you is not a scum thing to do. But mafia know I am town, so putting reasons to vote for me, assuming I am town, IS a scum thing to do. | ||
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If you're not convinced by Pyrr's thing on DTA, and you think I'm townie - why not vote for chaoser? There are 3 choices here, not two. | ||
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I had the most votes at the time. I don't really blame him tbh. I voted for him to save myself, as I've said already. I don't believe DTA. me or chaoser is mafia. | ||
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On July 22 2010 12:05 Subversion wrote: DTA voted for me for the same reason. I had the most votes at the time. I don't really blame him tbh. I voted for him to save myself, as I've said already. I don't believe DTA. me or chaoser is mafia. lol, that thing after DTA was supposed to be a comma, not a full stop :O | ||
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On July 22 2010 12:11 Pandain wrote: Haha, I read it like you just mistyped. But that's so much more hilarious "I don't believe DTA. Either me or Chaoser are mafia!" hahaha i know it was a terribad punctuation error :D Like I help my Uncle jack, off horses. and I help my uncle, jack off horses Any chance of a last ditch mass vote for someone else? I'm thinking Amber. | ||
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Everyone is pretty much agreed that me and DTA are most likely town. Only difference is, I have claimed blue, he has claimed green. Why vote off the townie with an important skill? | ||
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Yeah, sorry, its just that he was discussing me and DTA it seemed. | ||
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DTA has already claimed vanilla, chaoser may be blue? | ||
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On July 22 2010 12:45 Pandain wrote: But yeah Darth, just for your own interests you might want to vote Chaoser just because I'm definitely not voting Subversion. <3 | ||
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DTA claimed green, so if it HAS to be one of the two, and we believe they're both town... might as well be DTA i guess =/ | ||
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Which brings up why we lynch either anyways But DTA has claimed green, chaoser hasn't claimed at all. I'm working on the assumption that we believe both are town ^_^ If we don't work off that assumption, the argument obv makes no sense. | ||
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Lol @ that essay pandain | ||
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i wanna know if he was town | ||
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Sigh. When is night? | ||
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Was a hectic mafia day lolz. | ||
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Also, we allowed to talk at night this game? | ||
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That was in response to someone ELSE'S misinformation post. Also, it was quickly clarified after that post that he did not in face claim blue. Shoulda kept reading dude =/ | ||
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On July 22 2010 21:16 Amber[LighT] wrote: ![[image loading]](http://forums.nonewbs.com/media/smilies/facepalm.gif) If we just lynched you like how Day2 should have turned out this annoyance wouldn't be around anymore. Well geez sorry Mr .Elitist dick. There was no announcement from BM saying that it was night, and in the previous game I played we weren't allowed to talk at night. And people talk a lot about "twilight". It was a simple question, if you don't want to answer, thats fine. Take your shitty rude remarks elsewhere though, how the hell are you ever supposed to get new players? | ||
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It actually sounds scummy as hell. | ||
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same thing. | ||
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I made several posts saying that I believe him to be town, that I believe all 3 top candidates to be town, and that we should change targets entirely. I only voted for him because, to be honest, it was him or me, and voting me out would have been bad for town. I have been up front about that fact all along. | ||
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I think we fucked up day 2 badly. I said this DURING day 2. None of the top candidates, are imo, mafia. I think we need to take this in a whole new direction, and start looking at another group of players. If we keep on looking at me, BB, chaoser etc I feel the mafia can just sit back and watch us off ourselves. And I STILL don't understand where this me and youngminii ultimate alliance idea has come from. I really don't feel like we have any kind of connection whatsoever. | ||
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even tho i really think it might be me, lolz. | ||
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Really? don't see why so. Just think its me due to me claiming blue. Although, scum may think I have a good chance of being voted off neway, so may go after sum1 else. guess we'll see. | ||
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hopefully the day post will be up, and ill be alive | ||
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That seems like a weird choice though. This kind of sucks, as neither of these 2, imo, were really seriously suspected of being scum. | ||
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Please stop doing this. It's really annoying. "No." is not a post that contributes anything. | ||
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vigi is one, mafia is another, where's the 3rd? sorry if this is a n00b Q =/ | ||
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so tricode tried to vig hit BC. If a medic protects a mafia member does it work? | ||
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Seems like we've just blindly accepted Tricode's claim as fact here. But BC could be lying, and so could Tricode. I guess that would be risky though since the real vig could counter-claim. | ||
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Still talking about the day 1 vote, lolz. I'm really not going to rehash my entire defense for that again, please go back and read it. People keep forgetting that I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS THE DECIDING VOTE AS THE VOTE COUNT WAS FUCKED. Sigh, really we going to keep banging this drum again? | ||
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I strongly pushed to change votes from me, darth and chaoser to someone else, as I felt all 3 of us were town. If I was mafia, why would I try and get votes moved from a guaranteed townie lynch? Come on man, use your head. Stop looking at day 1 and look at RECENT stuff. | ||
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maybe "anticipation" would be more appropriate, but you're really kind of jumping at shadows now. | ||
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On July 24 2010 09:51 youngminii wrote: Oh and I guess I forgot to mention: Chaoser joins infundilbusxum It's iNfuNdiBuLuM. | ||
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I really think we need to stop looking at the same people we have been since day 1/2, and start looking at new people with fresh eyes. The case against me was pretty ridiculous imo, based on 1 comment and an F'd vote count. youngminii is only in the spotlight because he was somehow, linked to me. How this happened I STILL do not know. We're still beating the same dead dogs. We need to target a different "group", I strongly feel that the youngminii/dta/me/chaoser thing that has been going since forever is the wrong group of people. | ||
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just to avoid modkill threats, ill do this for now. ##vote: abstain | ||
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can we get an up to date count? trying to sift thru about 10 pages of stuff i missed. | ||
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sorry just saw citizen reached majority and got lynched. what info have we gained now from him being townie? | ||
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you need to chill out, in your eagerness you're becoming a bad townie. not everything you say is fact. you are not mafia god. i trust pandain on this one. you were in BC's list of potential GF picks, so you showing up green townie (the most commonly chosen GF role) would make someone just a little suspicious. the idea of getting a vanilla townie who the DT trusts to PM you and tell you all truths (funneled from the real DT) and then see if he dies is a good one. This way if he immediateely dies the next night, you are a REALLY good choice for GF. And town doesn't lose a valuable blue. How is this farfetched? Seems like pretty solid reasoning. You need to chill out dude. | ||
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so bc, south, and zeks all claimed hatter>? wtf? =/ | ||
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Lolz. ZING! | ||
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'cause we suck at finding mafia haha xD | ||
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Fail medic, everyone knew it was gonna be me except you you fail at life and everything else. | ||
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but i'll leave my post about him being imflammatory and making the game unpleasant | ||
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you really make this game unpleasant sumtimes. | ||
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no more posting to me plz, im dead. | ||
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I think the puck is black because the ice is white, not the other way around | ||
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screw u guys ^_^ | ||
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On July 30 2010 10:22 BrownBear wrote: Per Pandain's wishes, here is his unaltered last will and testimony: From: Pandain [ 793 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Last words and Testimony +will Date: 7/29/10 01:06 My ashes go to my love Subversive. That way you will be forever emotionally scarred. It's Subversion. | ||
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