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On July 17 2010 19:41 XeliN wrote: This game has finally started, been checking for ages. So no-one seems to have suggested any plan of action or srs business. In fact most of the chatter reads like the ramblings of a girls coffee morning. I would put forward two suggestions, lynch the least active person (has it's weaknesses, specially as there is very little to talk about at this stage with no info to go on) or simply use a RNG to lynch someone and go from there. I'd prefer the latter, everytime i've played and the town does an impulsive whim first lynch a townie always dies, using a RNG then just simply going from there seems a nice way to get over the fact we have barely anything to go on. I agree with this... This is the plan we should be following. However I must admit that I'm going go be inactive until tomorrow night since I'm away on vacation. No one should be casting votes yet. Everyone should be posting plans and begin talking about how the game and today's vote should be carried out. And please know that we are not going to gain any knowledge through today's vote so we may as well just understand that there's a very slim chance we will land a mafioso. The mafia members would be retarded to allow us to carry out a mafia lynch on day 1 | ||
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Haven't read the thread and won't ve able to Until later | ||
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if I have to trust someone I trust xelin. I'm going to follow his decisions till the end of the day at least. Sorry got to the game early so I read some posts :D | ||
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On July 19 2010 02:27 Misder wrote: Why exactly do you trust Xelin out of all the players here? As for the hyperbola bandwagon: I didn't really mean to actually start the bandwagon xD I just pointed out that his posts don't provide substance at all, and his defense is very poor. and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched... Got a break for a minute. In every game xelin plays the most levelheaded and I know his opinions have taken serious consideration. I know it someone is going to ve good to follow it's xelin or opz | ||
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You should not be playing to avoid a modkill, or even to avoid being slightly considered as a lynch target. Unless there's some crazy night we should focus on BrownBear. | ||
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Up until about 12 hours ago (last time I checked the thread) he was nowhere to be found, and now that 1 person gave him something to run with, he's invaded about 2/3's of the last 2 pages with nonsense analysis about d3. What's even worse is that he wants our "other" veteran to roleclaim. ATTN OTHER VETERAN: DO NOT ROLECLAIM!!!! The goal of the veteran, as stated numerous times, is to be the meatshield. His vote is only worth 1, regardless of how long he is left in the game. His job is to soak damage up from night kills. By outing our veterans, we are pretty much giving the mafia enough information to say "don't hit these players." I'm against that plan completely, and I'm against BrownBear. Hopefully the DT's are working their magic from last night and getting in contact with the players they checked. The DT role is pretty black/white and very strong in this game, so we need to keep those guys alive. The DT's should form their own circles and use the players they checked as voice-boxes. The players who have been checked should, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, reveal to any other player who the DT is unless they are verified. The only way the DT circles should combine is if AND ONLY IF by chance a DT checks another DT. Please be smart about this guys. I'm sticking with the opinion of the previous night to lynch the most useless player: ##Vote: BrownBear I'll consider changing my vote if some of the more 'influential players' have a better suggestion. | ||
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On July 21 2010 01:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: -_- You said everything I was about to say...Glad I read to end of thread. Another job interview today guys, but I should be back. I also don't like BrownBear's plan. ##Vote:BrownBear Dunno where this will lead, but I'm willing to change my vote. wtf dude where you getting all these job interviews from? Share the love... I only have about 1 month left before I'm officially unemployed  | ||
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On July 21 2010 03:21 Misder wrote: I would also like to point out this post by citi.zen. + Show Spoiler + On July 20 2010 10:09 citi.zen wrote: I know you're not a bad player, so this attempt to cast doubts on me out of the blue strikes me as odd. Especially since you're grouping me with lakrismama - which makes zero sense, as you would know full well it if you were honestly searching for reds. Look at his posts: Transparent much? No mafia, in any game that I have seen, risks showing this "support" towards each other on day 1. You know this. And you Sir are now looking very red. Foolishness has been pointed out as having odd behavior. He may have been a future lynching target. Why would the mafia target someone who is suspicious of being red? Because then it puts the finger-pointers in a position when players, such as yourself, go back and analyze the posts. This is actually a common ruse to cause the town to run around in circles as townies battle townies. It's not to say your analysis is invalid, but it could just be a breadcrumb trail to no-wheres-ville setup and managed by the mafia. | ||
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On July 21 2010 06:09 citi.zen wrote: I don't know... I am leaning with Pandain here. Subversion is a brand new player who does not know what to expect in these games. I can see him think... "How do you catch mafia? You watch for mistakes! Have we caught any? Nope. Ah - so thus far they aren't making too many mistakes." I see no huge red flag. That said, he does not strike me as someone useful for the town so I am OK losing him if there are no better candidates. Subversion isn't that new. He played in BM's Harry Potter mafia, not sure if he's played in others... don't discount someones skill because they haven't played mafia on these boards before. | ||
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On July 21 2010 08:20 Bill Murray wrote: they picked. vote count: im on my buddy's shitty ass comp with poor wireless, so if i missed any votes, or vote changes, pm me. i will definitely do more concise counting when i get home. Opz voted BB too | ||
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##Vote: Subversion Though I think BrownBear's analysis and plan is crappy, we can get more info is we lynch Subversion. Lynching BB just proves that we, as a town, aren't as organized as we would like to be. The Subversion discussion caught a lot of players, many more than the BB discussion. By determining Subversion's role we can pinpoint other key players who were pushing for and against the Subversion lynch. I'm willing to risk putting my name into the hat to get the town on a better path to victory. Depending on the flip, the DT's should try and look at key players involved in the Subversion dispute. | ||
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On July 22 2010 03:00 LaXerCannon wrote: This post here, to me, was the most informative. I have never had the chance to play a red role before and such added perspective really helped me decide on a lynch target. I'm also quite intrigued by why DTA didn't die yet; he's a very strong player (not so much this game though) and should be a priority kill. ##vote: DarthThienAn If we play the game with this logic then BC should have been killed already, but he's still alive. Opz is still alive, he's a strong player too. What about Roffles, he's incredibly cunning and plays the part of mafioso and townie very well. Pyrr should have been killed based upon this logic as well. Infun should have probably been a good target. You're playing the game very counter-intuitively. You're insisting that strong players should die, not suspicious players. DTA is playing the Chezinu card, which is common play. There's always guaranteed to be one of those idiot players in the game. The host himself has played this card before in games... I can't believe the people that are coming forward insisting that killing subversion will gain no knowledge. Killing DTA just verifies his play-style. We can actually tie a connection between DTA and Subversion as well as the people who are trying to avoid talking about DTA at all, or those who are supporting one lynch target over another. I'm not going to sit here and say killing DTA is wrong, he is still a target due to his play-style this game, but he's going to give us less information than lynching Subversion. Do whatever you want but don't justify your lynch vote by saying DTA is a good player and I think other people's opinions are strong, so this must be a good choice. Sheep. | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:13 DarthThienAn wrote: Wait Opz, why do you want to kill Amber? Wat? He never said he wanted to kill me. | ||
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On July 22 2010 11:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: There seems to be enough of us online to change votes. I'm fine with BC or Tree.Hugger dying. BC's too deadly, and Tree.Hugger...well...He defended Darth in a bull shit no information and false information way, and jumped on Subversion with shitty logic. That is all. AND he PM'd me, which is a no no. I only want PM's when I'm checked and saved. I don't think lynching either is smart. BC is dangerous but he's also dangerous if he's town-aligned. Since we have a decent idea of who is siding with who with today's discussion we should stick with our original suspects and go for either DTA or Subversion at this point. Causing a last minute bandwagon will ruin the last 20+ pages as we gain absolutely no new knowledge. | ||
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On July 22 2010 13:12 Pandain wrote: No, because DTA would lose a vote and Chaoser would gain one. That's correct, but DTA reached 9 before he reached 10, thus he reached 9 first... | ||
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On July 22 2010 13:28 youngminii wrote: How the hell am I not. Can you keep up with the thread please? I backed hyperbola, I backed DTA and I put my reputation on the line for him. If you think that somehow doesn't buy me any credibility at all you're heavily mistaken. It doesn't buy you any credibility. | ||
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On July 22 2010 16:27 Subversion wrote: when is night?? ![[image loading]](http://forums.nonewbs.com/media/smilies/facepalm.gif) If we just lynched you like how Day2 should have turned out this annoyance wouldn't be around anymore. | ||
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On July 23 2010 00:39 Subversion wrote: Also, what do you mean "how day 2 was supposed to turn out" ? That sounds like it was some kind of orchestrated plan or something. It actually sounds scummy as hell. On July 22 2010 13:19 Bill Murray wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n99/chuiu/TLnight.png) The town was a tilting ship adrift in the perfect storm, rolling and toiling with its toll amidst a red cloud of chaos in the morning. There were many options for a lynch after the murder of Foolishness and his wife was framed into a murder-suicide, but three eventually emerged. The sky showed no sign of clearing as rain pelted down onto the cobblestone sidewalks and the asphalt of the crosswalks of the town. People deliberated for minutes, hours, and even days on end in some cases. They finally decided to lynch DarthThienAn who went out with not a bang, but a whimper. ![[image loading]](http://www.staceengland.com/james.jpg) DarthThienAn, Townie, lynched Day 2 It is now night If you have night actions, feel free. I guess the image and the closer text on BM's post wasn't clear enough. | ||
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DTA was playing a role that was so transparent he was guaranteeing his own safety from a mafia hit. Do you really think mafia would disrupt someone who's playing around or someone who's actually benefiting the town? DTA knew what he was up to and he was carefully treading around. Did I suspect DTA? Yah of course I did, but this lynch didn't teach us a thing! Now we know that DTA was not mafia. Great. Now where do we stand on Day 3? No one has stepped up for a suggestion for a lynch based upon the information gained by killing DTA. There was a plan for killing Subversion. Regardless of his flip we had players that were so devoted to his death/safety. I'm praying that the DT's made use of this lynch so we can pick out alignment. I feel like the DTA bandwagon was just a bunch of unsure townies who didn't want to be caught in the line of fire. The Subversion vote train was consistent for much of the last two days. We're pretty much starting Day 2 again tomorrow. | ||
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On July 23 2010 03:04 BrownBear wrote: This should be apparent, but NOBODY SHOULD TELL MEDICS OR DTs WHAT TO DO IN THE THREAD. OR EVEN HINT AT IT. The suicide bomber is still out there. That's why I'm glad we haven't. It's better for the DT's to (hopefully) be on top of their own jobs without us spewing "oh do this." If they feel that what they're doing is better than what's being suggested in the thread then that's fine. The game is relying on their diligence at this point and I've stated what I would expect from the DT's throughout much of the game. This goes for the other blues as well. | ||
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##Vote: Double Lynch | ||
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On July 24 2010 01:50 SiNiquity wrote: True. Though if Tricode were Mafia, it would give us 2 Mafia members immediately, which would be a wealth of information for us. It would be one hell of a Mafia gamble to fake all of this, as they would have to bank on us not lynching Tricode. It's a dead end though. Once we lynch Tricode that only gives us a hint of who BC is, depending on the flip. BC will not be confirmed 100% from lynching Tricode, and then from there we don't have a lot of connections. BC wasn't really involved with much other than a few posts about the bandwagons and BrownBears plan. I think we should just avoid them and go for players like Youngminii or Subversion. | ||
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##unvote: Double Lynch ##vote: Abstain | ||
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On July 24 2010 03:19 Fishball wrote: Shut up, I was Mafia that game, not a Vigi. Killing you (town) was one stone ten birds (one townie bird, nine-self-satisfaction birds). You are not in this town! We have strict anti-immigration laws! | ||
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On July 25 2010 03:52 SouthRawrea wrote: So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/ ## Vote Citizen for now A challenger approaches? Citizen care to comment? | ||
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On July 25 2010 04:40 SiNiquity wrote: Furthermore if Citi.zen is Infested Terran, the sac is worth it. He's a strong player who could argue for the other person to get lynched first if there's a counter-claim, hopefully get the DT circles before then, and then go out with a bang the next night. On the other hand, if Southrawrea is Mafia, then the reason Mafia could've sent out a "weak" player is that he's the only one that hasn't replied since Citi.zen claimed. I did my list from Tricode, I'd have to make another since Citi.zen claimed. That's not true and you can't base any analysis on this hunch... | ||
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On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote: #vote SouthRawrea Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die lol wut? How on earth do you figure that? The past three days must have been hilarious for them to watch. We have more chickens with their heads cut off and we're trying to lynch them all. I'm trying to figure out the best possible way to go about this. Lynching citizen vs. SR seems to be a double-edged sword. One of them is the hatter, the other is a mafia. If we hit a mafia then we have gotten that much closer to winning, but what do we gain? A guaranteed hatter that we will need to baby for the rest of the game... I'm trying to think of the future here. If Citizen is the hatter then he is probably going to be a (juicy) suicide target. That means that his two bombs (He threw two right?) will go off. He hasn't said who he has them on, so we as a town can't tell him where they should move. If SR is the hatter then we only have to worry about moving one bomb to a "mafia." This actually (sorta) secures SR and the mafia players safety as it would require them to use a night kill or suicide bomb, which there is less incentive imo. Assuming SR is legit I'll support him. There's less risk in keeping him alive, assuming citi.zen laid two bombs, and assuming he's the hatter. And if the person we lynch is the hatter the next person is on the stands tomorrow anyway. vote: citi.zen vote: double lynch | ||
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Were citi.zen's tells that simple to the mafia? | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:06 SouthRawrea wrote: Thank you for your cooperation, see you guys next day. Anyone in particular I should place a bomb on? I've already got a candidate in mind at this time but just for the future... that shouldn't be discussed at this time. Wait for the night post at least... | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:37 youngminii wrote: This is exactly how the mafia would react in this given situation: Kill of citi.zen then have everyone back out into a corner and defend themselves like chaoser is doing right now. No, you will not be spared. Also, I like my hit list and I will keep it that way. Also, if citi.zen is telling the truth and SouthRawr is not, then Tricode is almost definitely also telling the truth, hence Tricode should not be on the list. BC SouthRawrea Chaoser Infundibuxdlgxcubum Pandain (Claimed DT) Amber[Light] (Pandain claimed to have checkd him) Tree.hugger (moved tree.hugger to the bottom 'cause it's likely he's just bad town) You might want to go back to your DT lol | ||
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On July 25 2010 10:51 youngminii wrote: If you listen carefully you can hear the soft reasonings behind my loudness. And yeah that theory makes no sense, It's Night 3 now and you're claiming DT has already checked 3 times (me, you and amber). You just made the same mistake citi.zen did last game by slipping up your claim. You are now 100% red in my eyes. I can't believe you're actually going to roll with this mysterious DT like you aren't getting away with anything. | ||
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On July 25 2010 18:09 d3_crescentia wrote: What the fuck is this shit. We should have lynched either Tricode or BC today, because we have no idea if BC is confirmed town, and then all of this shit happened. In fact given the amount of misinformation that's flying around in this thread it can become unmanageable and frustrating to try and figure things out right away. Claims that need to be resolved: - BC/Tricode - zeks/Southrawrea - Pandain/Amber[Light]/youngminii Since we have three claimants (Tricode/South/zeks) then we need to avoid overlapping kills if it so happens we have two bombers. Since zeks has claimed to have bombs on BC/South, South should put his remaining bomb on Tricode (chaoser?? what even makes you think he's a THREAT, for fucks sake). We then lynch both of them. I'd rather all of the above die and have our DTs check other targets rather than waste any more time trying to figure these things out. Yes, I realize that this 1-for-3 trade is terrible. I don't really give a shit, though, because it's time to play hardball. Something is especially not right here, considering citizen's claims that he was also DT checked. But then if our claimant checked Amber and young, when could they have checked citizen? I don't like this. On July 25 2010 10:41 Amber[LighT] wrote: You might want to go back to your DT lol On July 25 2010 10:55 Amber[LighT] wrote: I can't believe you're actually going to roll with this mysterious DT like you aren't getting away with anything. I'm actually praying I get killed tonight so either the town or YM can take proper action. | ||
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I can't find the post where someone listed everyone who claimed already. Think about it dude... either you are making some outrageous claim against me, or your DT is shady. | ||
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I don't know what to do anymore. Reading the last 5 pages told me close to nothing. I'm still confused and I'm nervous about taking out BC. For now (I'll be back) vote: abstain x2 vote: double lynch | ||
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On July 27 2010 13:43 zeks wrote: lined up 3 hours got collectors edition!!!!!!!!!! why do i suddenly not feel like playing anymore jk lol rly? I got there 10 mins before midnight and just waltzed in  so excited to play  | ||
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On July 27 2010 18:10 Bill Murray wrote: Can everyone try to PM someone to replace? Why don't you pass the ability to another player if he's blue? And if he's red give us a pity suicide or something lol | ||
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Very well played BC...Can't believe I (once again) bought into your lie. | ||
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Sorry guys fixing connection issues for the past 24 hours :/... not having fun. Reading through the posts during the day now... will vote soon | ||
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Vote: Tree.Hugger & Pandain | ||
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On July 30 2010 05:14 BrownBear wrote: Ahhhh wtf, where did my post go. Formatting fail. Here's my post, I buried it in the quotes >< Actually that's a better plan, lol. OFC, once one vet claims we should have the other claim as well. This will help prevent mafia fakeclaiming vet (which they will, i expect). So if a mafia fakeclaims, both vets will step up and say "I'm vet" and we know we have one mafia caught. Is that acceptable? lol like claiming for the mad hatter/vigilante? It'll take us at least two more days to confirm these players. | ||
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On July 30 2010 23:22 Divinek wrote: yeah we should have let BC defend himself for the full 48 hours so he could have swayed your vote off plus others rofl narrow minded fuck you he checked red, you're getting on my nerves Sadly he would have succeeded in swaying votes if we let him... again. | ||
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