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On June 29 2010 03:10 bumatlarge wrote: Hope a guy gets juliet and korynna gets romeo Well, obligatory scum n1 Korynne hit coming for one-shot-for-two deal >  | ||
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On June 29 2010 08:17 DarthThienAn wrote: lol, that's how I think of homework with 24hr increments for the lateness penalty. And exactly when another 24 hour passes and you are only left with approx. ~3 hr again, with hardly any progress toward your goal, you panick. | ||
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Now DarthThienAn confirmed that role, as all good mods should do, were randomized. In this case I believe the town's best choice of action is to lynch inactives or poor townies without any worries at all. Even in normal mafia setup with large roster of Townies this is pretty decent move, but here where d1 target constitutes only Godfather and Traitor, it's a win move. The probability of hitting antitown player by grabbing any random player is equally 1/10, and today's flip is more likely to be determined by roll of fortune than good hard scumhunting exactly because of the difficulty of getting read for today. So why not rid us of a anti-town players and make our lives much easier? I would also like to note that this state of cluelessness extends to day 2 also, since the situation will be GODFATHER, MAFIA, TRAITOR. In this case only scum player with concrete knowledge on his allies are Godfather, who has recruited the mafia. However even if the mafia happens to be bandwagoned d2, I think that Godfather will less likely to try to bring himself into spotlight by defending single scum, when he still has recruitment power on his thumb. Thus the interaction based analysis fails to be any use until day 3; proportionally increasing the importance of investigative power roles. Unless in uttermost danger the PR should definitely not out themselves, and do not commit to making obvious PR tells which Godfather may catch on. Most of us have played few games in TL before so should know mafia is just as likely to hit (or recruit, in this case) active lurkers early night as highly active townie in hope of fishing out power roles. This is my current thoughts about this setup for now, I think other players should try to figure out town's best strategy also since looking at the quality of arguments is the best material we can use to scumhunt at this point. | ||
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First, I am Hesmyrr. I think [player] is [good/middle/bad] (pick 1)-skilled, and believe mafia is likely to recruit [good/middle/bad] (pick 1)-skilled player! ...-_- I would be pleasantly annoyed to see player vote someone due to this reasoning. It's mindless WIFOM and essentially null-read that should never be used to lynch someone; especially when there is more concrete materials to work around with now, with most player having made their stances and endorsements. Now Double Lynch (proposed by BM). This is bad idea, and many people already spoke up why, but let me summarize the main points: 1) There are only two double lynch available in this game and should be saved until seriously needed, 2) Using double lynch at d1, when there are lack of information, only increases chance of bandwagoning scum slightly but greatly increase the chance of bandwagoning PR (since there are more of them) which is exactly what we do not want. I am curious to know the Bill Murray's reasoning behind his support- it is in responsibility of the plan proposer to explain why that plan is good idea, you know. Mass Roleclaim. I am not even discussing this shit. Roleblock instead of Lynch (proposed by Korynne). For some reason I really don't like this idea, and I wish I could point out in detail why had I enough time. I'll try to give detailed argument against this plan when I have enough time tomorrow, and either way it wouldn't even matter because I think the town is pretty much forced to lynch every day til Godfather is confirmed dead. Please remember we are fighting CULT (with NK powers), not Mafia? Lynching normal Mafia goon does not result in net gain for us, it just results in stalemate as mafia recruit another member immediately following night. Especially with INCREASING KP, the town effort should be focused on getting Godfather than scum especially now when we have the same probability of finding them anyway. Voting BrowneY as placeholder, probably subject to change but I would appreciate it if more people (zeks, Divinek etc.) spoke up. | ||
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Masons, if the zeks ISN'T mason, have one of you cc. We have one confirmed mafia then, and note that having only one mason revealed is not a setback but merely continuation of L's plan which not many criticized against. However if you choose to hold back your cc you'll contribute in confusing the town; it's not worth it. I re-read the Korynne's plan, and though it sounds pretty complicated, I realized it can be restated pretty easily, especially with withdrawal of DT aspect: We lynch the scummiest player, and we as a town should vote on who the RB should target. Looking at that way it doesn't sound that bad, especially since it's clear that RB should target the scummiest player living at that night, and if something crazy like NK happens clearly asking the RB to hit specific player before the night can reduce town confusion and WIFOM a lot significantly. Don't know other details Korynne threw in though- even if NK occurs, the town should be prepared to analyze it with grain of salt instead of quick-sheeping 'OMG KILL DAT RB'D SUCKAR' mindlessly. Also here is some information I thought you guys might appreicate: ==================== Vote Count * blue numbers indicate vote change (if 2, it is the second person he/she voted for in that day). Chezinu (0) AcrossFiveJulys (0) BrowneY (1) Thegilaboy (July 01 2010 11:48) Bill Murray (0) ElyAs (6) BrownBear (July 01 2010 13:52) AcrossFiveJulys (July 01 2010 14:56) Korynne 2 (July 02 2010 03:48) bumatlarge 2 (July 02 2010 21:00) Divinek (July 02 2010 22:36) ElyAs 2 (July 02 2010 23:22) zeks (0) youngminii (1) citi.zen (July 01 2010 16:37) Korynne (2) Chezinu (July 02 2010 01:06) Bill Murray 4 (July 02 2010 05:48) YellowInk (2) lakrismamma (July 01 2010 23:52) zeks (July 02 2010 23:14) Divinek (2) Hesmyrr (July 02 2010 01:28) YellowInk 3 (July 02 2010 16:16) Thegilaboy (0) Hesmyrr (0) Abenson (1) rastaban 4 (July 02 2010 23:04) No vote: L, DCLXVI, youngminii, BrowneY ==================== | ||
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BrowneY is no-brainer for moment, but I am wondering why you do not ElyAs lynch? Are you willing to propose 'an' alternative lynch candidate that town can choose to go behind? | ||
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On July 03 2010 02:42 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Just thought of an idea: if all the blues role claim besides the dreamcatcher, then when a blue gets recruited, the dreamcatcher can roleclaim and report what power s/he acquired and we catch a mafioso immediately. This works because there is almost certainly only one dreamcatcher (with two, it would get confusing who acquires what powers). Now the normal dangers of roleclaiming would come with this, but I just wanted to throw this idea out. Also, if we have for example two detectives, we wouldn't know which one was recruited. A modification of the idea could be that only the most powerful blues role claim, so if mafia are tempted to recruit them, they'll be caught by the dreamcatcher, but vets/mason are still a threat to mafia. ..... Okay, are you truly suggesting mass roleclaim for the sake of catching one mafioso? First, if one PR (rightfully so) disagrees with your plan and do not claim, everything burns down in panic and confusion. What do we do with the roles that are more than one? Your plan only lynches one recruited mafia- however, because Godfather is alive and fine, the net consequence is that mafia does not suffer any damage while town takes 2 PR damage (1 NK and 1 recruit) with all the blues vulnerable now. | ||
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Obviously Korynne's plan hinges on getting Mafia goon so we have some semblance of control over night death, but I rather like the idea of trying to roleblock Godfather too, since the # of successful recruitments he get off before dying is critical to the game's fate. Moreover by not shying away from RBing Godfather we can just choose to roleblock the scummiest player without worrying about details. We just need to remember in such case kill occurring in night does not necessarily mean the roleblocked player is town. As for roleblock candidate, I propose rastaban. I first noticed him only because of his frequent vote switch, but I don't think this is that bad chocie at all. He is fairly active in the game, but is one of those player who did not attract that much attention of the town, due to YI / Korynne / Bill Murray hogging all the town's spotlight. I would appreciate it if you guys also started talking about who to roleblock (since lynch candidate this point seem to be decided as either ElyAs or Abenson) and why. | ||
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On July 03 2010 04:00 Chezinu wrote: zek roleclaim - gains immunity from lynch and he probably isn't GF Bill Murray - because he would have recruited me if he was GF - if he is GF that was a great play by not recruiting me BrowneY- obv reasons Others - they will get modkilled so no point in killing them - these are people mafia feel comfortable killing because they know they aren't the GF. Town is also comfortable killing these people because it prevents lost of a town/blue since they would die anyways. So in a way it is a "no lynch". I didn't narrow the list further because I was trying to be objective. I didn't want to rule-out any potential GFs. Alright. You could have titled the list better than "list of lynch candidates" :p Also Bill Murray exclusion makes for a pretty shoddy objectiveness, doesn't it? I don't know much about players here so not sure what relationship you have with BM. | ||
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Is there any candidate for roleblock besides YI, Korynne, or esterban? | ||
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On July 05 2010 01:32 Divinek wrote: there's always the chance he was actually the traitor trying to mess with us and just said coroner that or we pray we started with 2/lucked out with dream catcher What benefit does traitor gain by fake-claiming coroner though? Mafia will not know who they killed either, so their plans will just as be confused as much as us (as in, coroner fakeclaim messes up # of alive coroner count in mafia side & they stop looking for coroner). Honestly one-time coroner and perpetual no role reveal is pretty lol, but we must plan under the worst case scenario that there are no more coroner power available. From next night the detectives are able to use their investigative abilities: I strongly recommend detective to reveal himself only when he have Godfather result (not Goon result). With claimed power roles so hard to verify, claiming just to announce mafia (which will just be recruited) is suicide. Detectives can also rule out that mafia player from the lynch list since the priority of the town, as always, should be to lynch Godfather for now. In case of claim conflict, I see no viable plan to counter so except good old hard method of analytical scumhunting. | ||
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I have to leave at 7:10 so voting for Abenson. My reasoning is that, like some have said, he is confusing Townie and his probability of being godfather is just as equal as anyone else. Since I expect the game to reach critical point on d3 with all the mass claims, I rather take mysterious Joker card out of the deck before that time arrives. | ||
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On July 06 2010 15:42 Bill Murray wrote: if i was dt i would check ace/bc/yellowink tonight hell, if you're dt, check me and confirm me for now too if you're jailer, jail someone repetitively. i'd jail someone like hesmyrr if i was jailer. if you're a roleblocker, try roleblocking abenson to see if L was lying Whoa, where did this come from? Jailer should protect zeks, though he can choose the thorny path of wifom and try to protect one of the lover claims. Going out to eat lunch soon but I'll try to give my current opinions about this game within several hours. | ||
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Ace Roleblocks DCLXVI (Ace writes "DCLXVI" as his death post) youngminii Claims DT, citi.zen is GF. Originally went for mass roleclaim but reversed his position when YellowInk criticized him. citi.zen Counter-claims DT, claims to have gotten townie claim on both BM and L. Not possible since DT check is only allowed at start of N2. Point of interest: incriminating post comes at 11:43, citizen points this out at 11:44 Bill Murray Claims jailkeeper, jailed Hesmyrr for n1 and n2. Attacks YellowInk and youngminii. Later on claims to not have known citi.zen's contradiction. YellowInk On July 07 2010 13:13 YellowInk wrote: The town plan in summary: Do not roleclaim Lynch citi.zen Roleblock youngminii Jail youngminii No coroner usage Detectives spy on whomever you think is most likely to be godfather besides citi.zen ** Mad Hatter bomb Bill Murray Ignore Bill Murray's posts Scratch your head at Chezinu Smile if you're town, this game is probably about to end in victory ** This is because we want to plan for our worst case scenario - the 10% I alluded to earlier. If youngminii is playing us and he is in cahoots with citi.zen, we're still on godfather hunt. If citi.zen is really the godfather, we practically can't lose.+ Show Spoiler [Why we can't lose] + youngminii will get to keep getting to DT people and the mafia won't be able to target their hits effectively. After 2-3 nights following, if he hasn't found any scum, youngminii will give us a list of confirmed townies that he'll reveal which will ensure our victory even if he gets killed. We'll be able to mop up with a double lynch endgame. All of this is even assuming we have no other roles in the game besides 1 jailer and youngminii as our DT. I'm sure we have much more than this. Divinek-Abenson is confirmed Lovers. With death of Traitor, zek is highly likely to be confirmed mason. My opinion on all of the claims Ace blocked DCLXVI but there was NK, so only way DCLXVI can be anti-town is if he: 1) was recruited night two, 2) is Godfather. Of course though both possibilities are slim they should not be discounted. More concrete thing I want to mention is that Roleblocker is dead. So we should not make and push for a plan that fundementally depends on Roleblocker, pointing this out because I saw disturbing amount of posts speaking about roleblock after day three post. Now let's get to the meat of the matter. Some people already have pointed out several possibilities regarding youngminii-citi.zen debacle: 1) youngminii is DT, citi.zen is Godfather. 2) youngminii is Mafia, citi.zen is Mafia. I am keeping this possibility open because for being an Godfather, citi.zen seemed to be surprisingly amenable to surrendering once his "jig" was up. Don't know, I think he went down too quickly and conveniently instead of fighting with claws and teeth. 3) youngminii is Godfather, citi.zen is Mafia. This I find much less likely than second possibility b/c mafia does not know who the Godfather is and will truly believe he is DT. Also fakeclaiming DT might bring unnecessary spotlight he exactly would not want, I think. I mean if he is fake DT real DT will be investigating him immediately upcoming night. citi.zen cannot be PR or Townie because he first fakeclaimed, and when its logical inconsistency was pointed out citi.zen admitted he was lying and gave up; also eliminating idea that he wasd angry green lying to kill fake claimer. As regards to Bill Murray, if there is any real Jailkeeper which DID NOT start out as Dream Catcher, please counter claim. In absense of counterclaim there are only two probabilities: 1) Bill Murray is jailer and he is indeed being horrible Townie, and 2) Bill Murray was jailer but recruited. I glanced over YellowInk's post and it seems pretty solid for now besides second scenario, I'll try to think of a plan to improve situation for all contingencies, I hope all of you others do it too. I am voting for citi.zen. | ||
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It's a long shot, but throwing it out here. So if there really is coroner... speak out now? | ||
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@Abenson: How is YellowInk's post useful? Only thing he did was lump Bill Murray's post together and offer no complete insight about it at all. Also, since BM did not turn out to be jail-keeper, should the amendment to YI plan be necessary? | ||
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Roleblock youngminii NOT Bill Murray. YI laid it out pretty correctly; youngminii roleblock somewhat confirms the validity of youngminii claim, and even if mafia tries to frame him it results in us gaining control of KP since the mafia cannot kill anyone. There are highly likely to be multiple DT so... | ||
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I also want to state that should Bill Murray be confirmed clear (youngminii investigation is correct), then I am automatic clear as well. Bill Murray blocked me for n1 and n2 making me immune from recruitment. Thus in order for me to be anti-town I must either be Traitor or Godfather. Traitor is confirmed dead, and Godfather also is supposedly dead. | ||
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Assumingyoungminii is DT, we get cascade of clears. Bill Murray becomes clear, and because Godfather supposedly died in d2, DCLXVI also becomes clear since he was roleblocked n2. Not completely but semi-confirmed clear is Hesmyrr, who has also been immune to recruitment with exception of n0. That leaves Chezinu, BrownBear, YellowInk, BloodyC0bbler, AcrossFiveJulys, and rastaban (6 players) to target. After second mason claim, the list is further listed to five. With two double lynches, is this not autowin? [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, Bill Murray, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason [TOWN OR MAFIA] 5 Chezinu, BrownBear, YellowInk, BloodyC0bbler, AcrossFiveJulys, rastaban MINUS second mason. There are two mafia. (9-2) Today we lynch anyone out of TOWN OR MAFIA list. Bill Murray jail youngminii, youngminii investigates one person in TOWN OR MAFIA list, Chezinu switches his bomb to players in TOWN OR MAFIA list. Assuming we fail today and makes two mislynches (6-2): [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 2 living two players Another double lynch on those two players d4 for the win. Of course this plan assumes I am town, but even if I was recruited n0 this plan is concrete since it leaves me alone against rest of 5 confirmed Townies. Thus lynch me d5 for the win. VOTE DOUBLE LYNCH | ||
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SECOND MASON SHOULD CLAIM WITH A KEY. My scenario neglects the case mafia hit Chezinu, but with Chezinu switching his bomb to player in [Town or Mafia] list NKing Chezinu only acceleates the process. | ||
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Never mind. TOWN OR MAFIA players become reduced to two because two gets lynched, and one becomes clear by DT investigation. I am somewhat excited and is trying to pick holes apart as I can. | ||
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9-2 Bill Murray killed. 7-2 [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 3 living three players youngminii killed. 4-1 [TOWN] 5 zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 living one players Town lock. == Worst case scenario where Mad Hatter has placed both of his bombs on Town side == Before mafia hit, Chezinu switches one of his bomb on Town side to "Town or Mafia" side. Chenizu and DT also announce their targets to prevent stacking, so DT don't end up investigating player with the bomb. Mafia hit Chenizu. In worst case scenario, Jailkeeper (not DT since Chezinu CAN move one bomb) and one "Town or Mafia" blows up. Let us assume second mason claim and one player claims mason. There are 5 TOWN OR MAFIA players. One is lynched today. Chezinu is killed. One gets blown up. One gets investigated. [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 One living player Since double lynch, kill final living player and Hesmyrr for the town lock. | ||
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YellowInk, with double lynch we can outpace mafia kill and prevent mafia from somehow overcoming current situation later on. I think it would be highly beneficial for us to vote for double lynch today so we can use it tomorrow. Can you specifically explain a scenario where my plan fails (minus youngminii not being DT) so you can justify your opinion not to use double lynch? | ||
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We want to ensure the mad hatter keeps the bombs on people who are unconfirmed. Current situation, whether Chezinu's bomb is lost or not doesn't matter much; only thing it matters is if it is placed on one of the "Town" side players, in which case Chezinu can minimize the damage by switching it to one of the unconfirmed players before mafia hit goes through. | ||
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Someone Someone Someone Someone zeks (Mason) Someone (Mason) DCLXVI youngminii (Goon) someone (Goon) someone (Godfather) I do see above possibility (with Mafia nearing his victory) where we are 8-3. However, in current situation with coroners dead, what can we do? Either we decide youngminii is DT or not, then we run with it. One path leads to doom, another to salvation. And I rather go with the scenario that gives Town logical chance of victory rather than stumbling around in absolute darkness. If the town decides to go along with our plan, should we have another surviving Mad Hatter claim? (YI did bring up a good point about this.) We can just delay his lynch until he managed to move all of his bombs to the unconfirmed players. | ||
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Point about mason is correct though; second mason really needs to come up with a key sooner or later to verify zek's mason claim. | ||
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Strategic modkills are NOT allowed, either. So no. Terrible one potential confirm (second mason) died. I'll do a quick check up to see what to do. Also chez, young already checked BM O.O | ||
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youngminii, Bill Murray, zeks, Hesmyrr Unconfirmed Chezinu (Mad Hatter), BloodyC0bbler, DCLXVI, rastaban [b]A5J, if zeks were indeed banking on your death and wrote your name down to frame you as second mason upon your death, write "skez" as your death post. If you confirm zeks write "mason". youngminii investigates BloodyC0bbler, Chezinu switches one of his bomb to someone that is NOT BloodyC0bbler or likely confirmed Townies. Also the town was being stupid and failed to attain majority needed for double lynch. We can only lynch single player tomorrow. I am SO angry about that. If BC doesn't turn out to be scum and jailkeeper dies, we end up at: 5-2 [b]Likely Confirmed youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, Hesmyrr Unconfirmed Chezinu (Mad Hatter), DCLXVI, rastaban [/i] | ||
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Likely Confirmed youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr Unconfirmed Chezinu (Mad Hatter), rastaban DCLXVI is clear because he was roleblocked and the kill still occured. Godfather immediately died thereafter following day. So Chezinu, switch your bomb to rastaban or just withdraw one that is on Likely Confirmed players if you already did. | ||
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YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler BILL MURRAY jails youngminii CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr). zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed. DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter. | ||
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On July 13 2010 01:14 rastaban wrote: why are you listing zeks as doubtful? to me he has the strongest claim of anyone, darth pointed out in the card selection method that we have 2 masons and 2 lovers. There is no way we still have 2 masons who never claimed. Just realized that and adjusted my plan accordingly. As long as A5J replies "Mason" it will be clear and peachy. In the end Chezinu, you, and me are the only one unconfirmed. | ||
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YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler BILL MURRAY jails youngminii CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr). zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed. DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter. | ||
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BILL MURRAY jails youngminii CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr). zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed. DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter. It doesn't matter; after we lynch the unconfirmed players and the game still doesn't end, the town can still lynch me for the win. Also in response to zeks question, we are probably missing something then- or most likely, youngminii is goon making a gambit with false investigation results but ended up being without his comrades as the list of unconfirmed players were decimated. | ||
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)Also I agree L modkill really screwed the town; loss of traitor/mafia really cost them valuable window to counterclaim youngminii in that critical day. | ||
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Post-game notes (would be interested in knowing other's thoughts during the game too): + Show Spoiler + I first signed in without realizing this was no flip setup, so I really didn't know what I was getting into. I generally just did nothing day 1 because I felt at this point there was not much to do, but I gave my opinion about some of the setup discussions going on so people didn't home in on me for lurking. Apparently I was in that perfect state of not standing out that both Godfather and Jailkeeper thought of me as good n1 target. I also generally trusted zeks roleclaim even before he posted the encrypted code, and would have been stood with this impression until somebody counter-claimed. Also I didn't generally like Korynne's plan because in retrospect, she seemed to be putting too much faith into following the result of her plan. Maybe she might have garnered more support if she simply advocated that the town should decide who to roleblock? If no kill occured, we could have discussed what it possibly meant thereafter. Also BM-Korryne tit tat war was pretty lol. Judged the argument itself was not enough to judge their scumminess, which is why I voted for ElyAs as planned. Interesting tidbit about this post; realizing this was no lynch I thought setup was favourable toward Mafia, and that I better try to get recruited sooner or later. So the linked post was actually my attempt to give impression that I was Detective. but I would still rather have PR use their round of investigations once before increasing their chance of exposure. The sentence was intended to give off impression that I was PR reluctant to out myself before using my ability. I never played anti-town intentionally, but it's always nice to have emergency exit prepared. The second day started up in unfortunate note with Coroner death, thought we were pretty unlucky there. Of course the night one in fact concluded with massive luck for town as BM has blocked Godfather's recruitment in what I consider epic save, but nobody but citi.zen knew that. Nothing on day 2 that particularly seem talk-worthy; I don't even remember why lynched Rofl, I just saw my post where I refute Bill Murray for saying "i'd jail someone like hesmyrr if i was jailer." That partial breadcrumbing was really dangerous looking at it now. Citi.zen knew the recruitment did not work against me for some reason, meaning either: 1) I was jailed, 2) I am the second mason. Bill Murray actively saying he would jail Hesmyrr should have told him that BM is likely jailer, making him ripe recruitment target. Either way it really didn't matter as youngminii checked citi.zen successfully, he would never get chance to recruit ever again. Bill Murray switcheroo really confused me a lot, he should be glad that I was never an advocate of Lynch All Liars. The way he angered the town kept him alive in the following night though, so that's food for thought. With no counter-claim and no other alternative to follow, rest of the game was pretty easy. Following day I was pretty convinced both were legit, hammered in the fact that game was over before mafia (which I believed there was two at the time) tried to discredit youngminii-Bill Murray, and BloodyC0bbler conceded. I feel somewhat sorry for YellowInk for lynching him, as any unconfirmed Townies could have literally taken his spot. I just supported his lynch just because he was the one with most votes. If there was secondary bandwagon along with YellowInk bandwagon there might have been confusion that might have somehow screwed up the plan. The fact that he was way too objective didn't help matters either. I know you should never trust anyone unless 100% confirmed, and youngminii-Bill Murray pair was not, but in no flip setup like this I believe complete faith on validity of some players is required to prevent the town from drowning in anarchy of WIFOM. | ||
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