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nothing like colour coding dah posts too omg the spoilers | ||
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'hey guys this is what we should do to catch dem red fellars.. right?' seems quite suspicious enough to cast my random vote | ||
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On June 23 2010 06:49 YellowInk wrote: Define active? You think this posting in code in thread is helpful to the town? They could just be PMing to each other. Clearly they intend for it to be read, they're just making it difficult for every town team to pick it apart. It muddies the waters. I'm not saying it makes them scum, but I surely don't count this sort of posting as making them active. BM coming after me, Chez's question for me, Chez posting resulting opinion of me, etc - this is substance. The codes are trash. So I agree with you that they're being active, you should be careful to observe for the correct reasons. Use similar reasoning when you look at others - find posts that have merit and only consider them. well im just saying it makes it far less likely they're townees, they could be blue or red, but why would townees be so self destructive as to make wild baseless allegations and hinder the team by causing too much confusion. Obvisouly attacking someone can draw out reactions but yeah, it just leans me more to thinking they're not green and being mindful for that | ||
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On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote: Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. yeah, accusations like that look a little scum to me, at least im not a fan of a 'scum list', i guess it's okay to be undecided but when you're just like 'suggesting' things for other teams, but without anything to back it up it just looks like diverting attention more than anything, more than you really believe it at least. The word 'our' really makes it interesting for me, though not conclusive enough based on the posts just yet | ||
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yo dawg. I dunno I'm not entirely sure voting down the least active is the best idea in a structure like this over post analysis, but im not sure how much real content there is to be had yet so im like 51% for voting against activity right now so i went with that unless something i see sways me. | ||
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On June 23 2010 18:15 Zyrre wrote: This would be bad for mafia in my eyes. In the first day they can easily start voting early since they only need a few weak arguments at that stage to start off the voting and they will probably get a lot of townies along with them. Doing what I did would be terrible if I was mafia. If I later would want to change my vote to the best/most active townie, I would have to explain myself based on all the posting that has been done today. Instead of just the early few pages. I'm casting my vote on BM's team right now. He's arguments and plans still feel off to me. Didnt you just say if you were going to vote for someone active you would do it based on all the posting that has been done today? Then you cast your vote on bm's team saying it just feels 'off' without any reasonable backing, starting to like my vote where it is based on this and the first post | ||
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On June 23 2010 13:12 DarthThienAn wrote: BrownBear, I'm not sure getting on L's case for his list is going to help anyone. Continue to do so if you're mafia though, it's a good way to distract the thread. When I saw that list, I immediately interpreted it as a summary of the last few pages, possibly because I had recently read all of the posts and knew it was along those lines, but still, I didn't see it as a random "L's lynch list" kind of deal or anything like that at all. Divinek, that's all I wanted to know =p. yo brosef i see you voted for mah team. But yeah id like to know why since at this point team 1 can basically jump in and sway the current win either way, was it something in my saying or is it cause my team mates have been too quiet. Wouldn't want your vote to be the deciding one sitting idly on my team | ||
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On June 24 2010 05:53 Radfield wrote: Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well Well my posts are probably pretty low content cuz im trying to learn this game as i go, since this is my first time playing. I'm pretty busy in life right now so im trying to post when i can and stay above the threshold of inactivity. I'm obviously not very good on reading yet and it's pretty early on the game so i dont want to target someone with too much conviction unless i have good reasoning, cause i dont want to confuse people etc. I think based on zyrre's posts my vote for team 7 is a pretty good one based on what has happened so far, but it's hard to say as i dont have histories on any of you and i dont have time to read through the other threads yet. I think my team mates are also pretty new to the mafia scene? so they're probably trying to lay low and watch what the good players do, at least that's what im doing and at least for the first day i figured it was solid to go with strong arguments others presented + my own reads. Since i might be pretty shit at throwing strong accusations up i wouldnt want to get my team meaninglessly in trouble. Is that good or were there other specific questions | ||
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On June 24 2010 06:58 YellowInk wrote: Radfield, note that I already called out team 9 on inactivity, but it was 10 hours before close of voting. + Show Spoiler + This makes it difficult to use voting as a method of pressure. I agree that team 9's posts have been trash. + Show Spoiler + I had considered shifting to team 9 before going to sleep, but at that point team 9 was no worse than team 7. As you can see, the team 9 analysis is before team 7 picked up their activity - I was posing an alternative location for pressure. I had hoped that would kick team 9 into gear. When it got too late in the day, there was no reason to apply pressure to team 9 since their activities aren't precisely red, they're simply inactive. I'd be on board with putting the squeeze on team 9 at the start of tomorrow if they havn't shaped up. If BM turns up green I still thing bum would be an excellent target. Speaking of - since my 'crusade' on bumatlarge does not appear to have been well received, can people post why they don't agree with my analysis? Is it because BM looks to be a better target? Is it because you really think bum is more likely to be green? I'd like to hear responses on this because I feel like my posture is falling on deaf ears. I'd like to hear from anyone who cares about what I have to say. :D At any rate, it's not something happening today. If BM/Chez flip red, that makes bum look much more green and Team 9 deserves more scrutiny. hm well since you asked i went through his posting history and i must say about 80% of it is complete crap and spam, what little content i thought would be of importance that i got were these bits Sorry yellow but your looking pretty viable for a first lynch as of now... These half hearted posts always seem like scum to me, it may be an inaccurate read but it's just kind of one of those 'i dont want to commit' things in order to fuel other people into going 'hey he's right lets get him!' And after saying that he didnt really analyze any further just left that word and was like k good for me, which doesnt make much sense at all if you really think someone should be lynced This seems to have escalated above us yellow, lets go into a hidey-hole and wait for the whole thing to blow over not much on this one cause you could metagame yourself on it but obviously a good towny would be analyzing people and not advocating hiding, and i think the purpose for this post was if he continued posting crap like he has or not at all he can be like well i already said i was going to hide or something Stick it to the man! Not voting for this bad-ass thats for sure Another thing that didnt really contribute at all, but maybe looks like a red subtly protecting another red? Cause it seemed like he for sure was taking some heat at the time of this post, but even this would look wayyy too bad if he flipped red so he'd have to be a pretty terrible red to say this if it was the case If I may say so, it was very incriminating Again, no real analysis just, oh i think you're bad but im not gonna vote kind of thing. Fanning flames but not backing it up with any vote/analysis. Very weak and trying to stay under the radar If I make it to day 4, I swear to god I will start the bandwagon on myself, and anyone who doesn't vote for me is mafia the old reverse mind game, why vote for me when im gonna kill myself anyways kind of thing. At that stage it could obviously be too late Also based on the posts he seems VERY sure there's a DT on this game so im starting to think he's almost certainly not green, but his posts have still been so empty i cant rest on red/blue | ||
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On June 24 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote: Well, lets set BM and Chez aside for the moment. I agree that they've posted a lot of spam, but I think both have tried to contribute more this game then in the games I've played with them when they were mafia. That doesn't mean much though, but I can't help it if I get a bit of a townie vibe from them. Of course I agree with your last two sentences. I am interested to hear your opinion of Team 9 though. Pretend BM and Chez are already dead. Am I off base on thinking they are scum? Are other people scumdars going off when they read their post history? so making mostly useless spammy crap posts sets off your redar? Of course I'd like to defend myself so your vote doesnt get wasted on a green but what else can i admit except that i was posting like a retard cause the first thing i saw on the wiki was dont be inactive lol but dont post too much as townee unless you have good evidence so you dont confuse people | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:33 bumatlarge wrote: Team 9 sounds fine, even if team 8 is a bit more inactive it seems, but I doubt mafia would be that inactive if a vast majority are disapproving of inactives. reasoning please bandwagons hurt, they're very heavy | ||
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All your vote switching looks more like you dont have a reason for voting and instead you're going to try to hit something that's pro town | ||
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are you referring in trying to save 'scumteam' 7? cause they have like no votes currently so they dont need much saving my voting late is because this is the best thing i have to go on, ive been getting advice as the game goes on and trying to build on that, it's not like it's unreasonable to hold off on your vote until you're more sure about something | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:53 Bill Murray wrote: there's only a couple of hours and your vote is in the wrong place IF you're town if you're mafia, keep it exactly where it is, I will die to have a good case on you. it's awesome cause i can use exactly that logic, it's like we've said nothing at all! | ||
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On June 24 2010 08:43 Bill Murray wrote: you made a bad read and tried to justify it with fabricated wishy washy voting unless youre talking about chezinu in which case i understand... he doesn't tell me anything, either. id still like you to address this, you've switched votes just as many times as him | ||
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well based on anything brought up so far im very happy with my vote  if it turns out to be wrong it was still supported with the best evidence thus far so what else can you hope for on the first day | ||
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BM completely dodged any way to logically explain his teams wishy washy voting, and as soon as i brought this up the first time darth immediately omgus-like voted on me. Red protecting red anyone? | ||
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On June 24 2010 09:37 Bill Murray wrote: quit stealing my argument we could work together and actually lynch a team that are red you know........... mine isn't. is yours? Nope. So who do you suggest and why, cause honestly your team is my best lead at the moment lol | ||
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On June 24 2010 10:04 Bill Murray wrote: your "best lead" is off-based. I would suggest someone who is heavily lurking when they lurk as scum like Caller. why not vote for him yourself then, cause if my team is your best lead it's also off based | ||
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On June 24 2010 10:23 DarthThienAn wrote: zzz. Nice to see that you're talking more though. Panicking at the thought of dying? o_o. . of course, i think every single player in the game panicks at the thought of dying. Though i suppose i wouldnt mind dying too much if it gave the town some decent info or anything from it, but if we die then flip green what has that gained anyone? id much rather see a red team flip the first day, though i guess the odds are against that and how is that weird, the way ive become active? ive been talking to the person i suspect the most because i want them to talk back alot so i can see if i get anything out of them | ||
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Gonna be coming up with my own theories after some post analysis, i hope i get called red for that as well. Lowest level tactic in the ol' mindset | ||
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On June 25 2010 14:20 DarthThienAn wrote: And to lynch players because they are 'good' players and might be mafia is just silly, and encourages bad play. i think the line of reasoning is more like, yes they are 'good' players. They certainly have shown more depth and perception than anyone thus far, and are obviously known and experienced at this game. So why would the mafia not choose one of them to be lynched? It might not be a, lets lynch them! kind of thing, but what good reason can you come up with to answer that question. I mean i may lack enough experience playing with you guys but if i was red i certainly would have gotten one of those two teams. | ||
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1. BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI. I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him. wtf is this? I'm leaning towards him, why leaning, why not cast the first vote? Might it look bad? Is bm really that confusing? Are there any original ideas in this post? Nope, just agreeing with someone and leaning towards someone we now know is town 100%. 2. What's the purpose of the mafia roleblocker in Setup 2 that flamewheel posted? It seems like he wont be able to block anything. he already explained this but i still think it's something to keep in the back of your mind, why wouldnt he just pm flamewheel. I dont actually know the answer to this question myself but why wouldnt he? 3. This would be bad for mafia in my eyes. In the first day they can easily start voting early since they only need a few weak arguments at that stage to start off the voting and they will probably get a lot of townies along with them. Doing what I did would be terrible if I was mafia. If I later would want to change my vote to the best/most active townie, I would have to explain myself based on all the posting that has been done today. Instead of just the early few pages. I'm casting my vote on BM's team right now. He's arguments and plans still feel off to me. scum radar alert! Why would townies have to go with weak arguments? Townies could be just as retarded and go with anything when there's so little info, we have good enough players that can make good enough arguments as it is. Blah blah mind games saying im not red could be red etc loop his arguments and plans still feel 'off', i already addressed this before, that has to be the worst logic ive ever seen for casting a vote, and as we all know now, we know this team is green even if they acted stupid so surely a red would go 'oh i could vote for the crazy town team and it wont look bad' HE CASTED HIS VOTE AFTER GOING AGAINST WHAT HE JUST SAID HE WOULD HAVE TO DO IF HE WERE TO VOTE AN ACTIVE PLAYER. 4. The only other mafia game I played in did not have roleblockers(it was in the role descriptions, but no one got it/used it afaik). So yes, I wasn't entirely sure what purpose they served without blues. I don't think this makes me more likely to be mafia. If I was I would've asked my mafia mates about it. 5. Several players posted about BM's early posting with flawed logic and at that time I posted I was leaning towards him. I now responded to one of his latest post(partly directed at me), and explained why it was wrong. Do you want me to quote it all in one post? It seems unnecessary. doesnt really give any reason other than, oh im siding with people that obviously some of them have to be town so it makes me look more pro town but i really have no reasons of my own note: STILL NO REASON FOR VOTE, just he 'felt' off 6. Ok, I'll stop using that word and be more specific. The last sentence was just a badly worded summary. still no come back from my attacks at his reasoning, just empty defenses 7.One is a simple clarification + me actually disagreeing with YI because I did not understand the voting rules (teams are lynched instead of players). The other would not be anything to go on if we would flip red. YI posted a whole lot, he pointed something out that seemed reasonable and that I would therefore base my voting on. I don't see how you can call this kissing up. openly admitting just band wagoning on a vote, though i guess this isnt the worst thing in the world for the first vote, but still these are pretty shallow and weak reasons for a vote. 8. Imo there is about 50/50 that either bum or BM's team is mafia. As it stands I'm keeping my vote on BM for obvious reasons. ok fuck you. This is the second post where you're like 'this team is very likely to be mafia' and now you're adding well another team might be, IMO, WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR OPINION? You didnt state any reason for saying why bums team might be mafia. You're just trying to throw in little jabs. Voting staying on bm for obvious reasons, if they are so obvious can you please point them out? Sigh this is looking so weak to me. Plus my read on bums team is quite green at this point so it makes me think you KNOW both of those teams are green and you'd be fine killing either of them .Yeah Korynne, since more and more are switching frmo my team I will probably switch my vore later on. switching your vote cause others are, not for logical reasons, not for something you truly see as supsicious. POST some content man 10.Reading through this it does sound convincing. L would be an easy target for mafia to go after though. Only one person that needs to be implicated, and L has been posting quite a lot. Some of his mistakes are ones I would make myself. BUT, since none of Ace's posts seem like mafia and Ace has been bashing L since the start, that seems highly unlikely. first post with any reasoning behind anything. But this stuff isnt backed up by a vote, it's just well this person could be mafia and someone who doesnt seem like mafia is going after non mafia stuff seems unlikely confusing emptyness. Well until anything else comes up for me im voting team 7. Could people tell me what they think, is my first level reasoning too weak here? Are these adequate scum reads? Both him and his team mate have been among the more inactive people, and both of them have voted for the only two teams i really think are green, one of which is now dead. | ||
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On June 26 2010 16:08 Nikon wrote: Yeah, I only defend myself, because all you people do is harp on me - my sister's wedding is coming up this Sunday and things are getting quite hectic around here to be honest. It's interesting to note however, that Laxercannon still hasn't posted jack shit, yet me and Zyrre are getting all the flak for being inactive. In fact, the only thing that Laxercannon posted after his "going to take a shower - state an obivous fact" combo was a poorly constructed attack on myself in response to my post - this I find very scummy. hurrah for the worst posted reasoning to vote for someone as of day 2! | ||
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o well was a fun game as town! | ||
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Durak, Zyrre, stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, 6 players died today groovy | ||
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3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge 4. Ace and DarthThienAn 5.YellowInk 6.L 7.Nikon 8.BrownBear | ||
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On June 27 2010 13:25 BrownBear wrote: Wat. Where were you??? Vote quickly, flame might have intentionally not showed up to extend voting period to get more active people in! that'd be entirely unfair to the people who thought 'ah too late ah well glhf' | ||
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gl, though im a big believer in sticking to rules, especially really easy to follow ones like this | ||
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On June 28 2010 14:26 DarthThienAn wrote: BB, I think the newbie bearie should only be able to go to first timers =P. Unfortunately, none of them were too good. Divinek/Durak/stormtemplar were our noobies? I guess Divinek wins by default since he didn't get modkilled. Leave it un-given imo =p. http://excoboard.com/somethingveryverysecret gg all ^^ yeah this game was rofl bad i spent the whole game just trying not to die, let alone actually figure anything else out | ||
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On June 28 2010 15:28 DCLXVI wrote: What great teamwork we had. I thought the strategy was to get us lynched. well it was clearly a great success | ||
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