TL Mafia XXVII

On June 03 2010 04:16 Korynne wrote:
I don't get it. xD

It was just us sticking out to the end with Foolishness. =P (Hopefully he'll play too? xP)

On June 04 2010 12:39 DarthThienAn wrote:


or give mafia a night kill. stack kills, ezpz. lolol.


flame's playing in this game. I want to play with cute flame :[.

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On June 05 2010 09:03 DarthThienAn wrote:


It doesn't matter cuz ur so cute :3.

On June 08 2010 12:34 Incognito wrote:
^You can only play in one game at once.

Anyway, I'm going to wait one more day till signups close. The game will start on Wednesday.

On June 09 2010 12:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:


hey you asshole you better not have told mafia to kill me ! :D

On June 09 2010 12:44 Foolishness wrote:
So just to be clear, PMing is allowed in this game yeah?

Edit: Can we also get an explanation of all the Detective/Medic variants and such?

On June 10 2010 07:14 Radfield wrote:
OK, lets talk balance for a sec.

With 4 mafia vs 13 town aligned, and given that the mafia might have both a roleblocker and godfather, I would guess that we have a decent number of blue roles in the game. My guess at the moment would be at least 5 blue roles, plus possibly a town aligned day vig?

I'm thinking 1 cop, 1 medic, 1 watcher/tracker, 1 vet and 1 vig/mad hatter. Also likely 1 Miller and the Day Vig. That leaves 6 townies(7 with the miller).

Does this seems likely to other people? Thoughts?

On June 10 2010 09:55 meeple wrote:


Despite what I said earlier about being skeptical that people could be forced out of inactivity... we might be hard pressed to find a true inactive. In the short time that this game has been open, there's only 6 people that haven't posted.

6. Chezinu
7. citi.zen
8. Foolishness
10. RebirthOfLeGend
14. johnnyspazz
15. LuDwig-

And of these, I expect that they will show up soon.

If it continues like this, and we get tons of active people and lots of posts to analyze then it might very well be more advantageous to skip the inactive lynch.

On June 10 2010 11:33 Foolishness wrote:
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Seriously though, did either of you even bother to think this through? Seems to me it's like, "lulz watz this weird role? no wai it can be good as DT otherwise we'd use it more AM I RIGHT?!?"

On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:



haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__.

How to discover who is lying?

The plan is quite easy!
[blueTracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night!
So we will know for sure who is lying

MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right?

On June 12 2010 03:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Btw we shouldn't lynch Ludwig or MooCow because as of now what they have both claimed is legal by L's plan. We should either go after someone who claimed townie or someone who didn't claim anything.

On June 12 2010 03:18 MooCow wrote:

Yea the person you roleblocked will be informed that they were roleblocked.

I'm a bit fearful for my life now that i'm in the open like this so i'm going to ask if there are any kind medics around.

No offence to you LuDwig but is anyone else reading LuDwig posts with a bit of an Italian accent with his grammar and wordings or is it just me?

On June 12 2010 11:02 L wrote:

Please do not send in your night action right away!!!

Important that we talk about our 2 DT check targets.

On June 12 2010 11:37 MooCow wrote:

I'll wait for the town to decide whoever they want checked out.

I just threw my idea out there because no one else had any.

If I were mafia I wouldn't of risked myself by coming out and saying i'm the 2ND DT in the game with everyone believing that there is only 1 DT in the first place. I welcome any watcher/tracker.

Well there's a 50% chance i'm completely useless in terms of checking people out and on top of that making people believe I am protown.

On June 13 2010 04:07 meeple wrote:


Yeah you're right... it was just something that occurred to me.

I don't agree with lynching Chez on the grounds of inactivity though. If I have some time to go through posts I'll come up with more suspects.

On June 13 2010 10:40 citi.zen wrote:

This is not how it works in any other game. Can a mod chime in?

On June 13 2010 15:41 L wrote:

I highly doubt that MooCow would suggest and check someone who is also mafia given that our current plan is to axe him in order to give DTs role information. Its possible that one is trying to set the other up, but both of them being mafia seems incredibly unlikely.

You not checking AFJ kinda makes getting information our DTs harder, but if you've confirmed that there's a medic, that's awesome. The problem is that now our lynch choice is much harder. I personally don't think AFJ is mafia because he's acting pretty emotionally, but I haven't gone through his past games to see how he plays mafia. If that's the case, then its possible that up to 3 people visited AFJ yesterday. If i'm right and he's not mafia, then he isn't the medic either because he wouldn't lie about being roleblocked and meeple picked up a medic. Unless meeple is lying or if the hatter dropped a bomb on ludwig and thinks he and meeple are both mafia which seems very unlikely.

So basically we're kinda at a null point in terms of the objective information. We can either kill AFJ to let our DTs narrow their potential sanities, or we can attempt to find someone else. Personally, I have tomorrow off and don't need to work all day, which means I'll have time to look into 2 people too. I think i'll pick flamewheel and foolishness because 1) flamewheel is cute and 2) foolishness is not posting which piques my interest. If I'm too busy to do a full post history on those 2, I'll do a gut feeling map of the people playing like I did last game.

On June 13 2010 21:47 MooCow wrote:
I'll do a bit of my thoughts and analysis on Flamewheel!

Flamewheel

*First post he revels he's actually the Godfather, lynch him.

Posts in the actual start of the game : 18
#141 Gives some of his thoughts on the balance of the game. Nothing really solid.

#151Wants to lynch an inactive which we did ( Jspazz )

#164He's up for roleclaiming which we all eventually do except for Chez.

#242 A bit later he rc's townie, just in between the mass rc'ing of townies.

#279 Gives his thoughts on 2 people rc'ing DT's ( MooCow and LuDwig) but imo doesn't really say anything useful.

#326He votes for himself ( knowing that he won't be lynched but just as a placeholder because he won't be back in time for the voting )
He also gives a plan that's almost exactly the same thing I posted for the 2 DT's and watcher to do.

Lasts few posts were just *one *liners not saying much.

Conclusion
He's actually not that active in this game imo. A lot of his posts end with something like he'll be back in a few hours or has to do something for a few hours, which is understandable, but may also be a mafia trying to cover up for his inactivity.
He doesn't say much in any of his posts but he did say he will do an analysis.
All of these things make me suspicious of him and I think he's mafia from my analysis so far.

On June 13 2010 13:49 meeple wrote:
Ah... I'm back... yeah unfortunately I didn't watch AFJ but I did watch Ludwig... and have ascertained the identity of the medic . Of course, I won't betray his confidence, but if he happens to find his sorry ass in trouble I will do what I can to pull him out of it.

On June 14 2010 03:48 L wrote:
MooCow, you kinda stole flamewheel from me, so I'll comment on your analysis. Flamewheel's actions don't look like he's me-tooing seeing as there have been some important decisions that he's been in on at a fairly early stage. Instead it looks like he's trying to keep his head down while still contributing a bit. Flamewheel might have modded a few games, but people don't expect him to singlehandedly drive games forward like radfield and I, so if he was mafia he'd probably have been safe doing exclusively stupid shit like getting people to call him cute.

If I'd be able to guess, I'd say that he might be one of the blue roles that hasn't said anything yet. If he's green then maybe that's a tell that he suffers from a lack of motivation during his non-role games.

Anyways, back to writing on foolishness.

On June 14 2010 06:41 Foolishness wrote:

WHOA WHOA WHOA!

So you requested Veteran and got denied. That's great and all. Hey for any non vets out there, did you know that you could request roles before the game starts? I sure didn't.

Hey Incognito, why didn't you PM me and ask me if I wanted a certain role?


At this point, everyone is more important than you. "waa waaaa I'm upset I didn't get the role I wanted waaa". Nobody needs to hear your QQ about not getting a "good" role. And now your assumption that "oh well I didn't get that role somebody else must have gotten it because I'm special" now just makes you sound like a pompous player.

Thanks for your contribution there, it really opened my eyes on the current town situation and I feel like I have a better understanding of what's going on.

Oh, can you PLEEEEAAAASSSEEE ask more questions in your posts? I honestly enjoy when someone feigns contribution by writing a bunch of rhetorical questions/possibilities that have already been discussed in the thread.

On June 14 2010 07:15 L wrote:

Because he wanted to make a post that appears to have content but doesn't.

Does anyone know how to use TL's search to find all of someone's posts in a certain thread? Would make this much easier for me.

On June 15 2010 10:23 Foolishness wrote:
We need to pick someone for DTs to inspect. We also need to actually kill the person they inspect to try to figure out sanities, as this will also confirm AcrossFiveJulys for certain.

From the remaining pool, I of course would like flamewheel inspected. Now I realize that some people may be against inspecting such a cute player, so I'd be cool with redtooth as well. Radfield has also been suspiciously absent as of late.

On June 15 2010 11:50 Foolishness wrote:

I'd rather check flamewheel. He wants to get checked himself and wants to die. He hasn't even posted anything beneficial to the town yet.

Something to note about this: L early game kept making promises about doing analysis and never delivered until right before he died. He pushed for people to contribute to the town without doing so himself. This is awfully a lot like what flamewheel is doing as well. Both players are genuinely active, yet never contributing to the town....and both promise analysis but take days to deliver on it.

On June 15 2010 11:59 Foolishness wrote:

Hey by the way that's usually a tell-tale mafia sign.

On June 15 2010 13:33 Foolishness wrote:

Give us someone better to check then.

On June 17 2010 08:43 Foolishness wrote:

I would also say for future use, that the person for whom the town is voting for must be given a chance to defend them self. As long as the person knows they are going to be lynched the day can end early.

On June 17 2010 10:21 MooCow wrote:
Hmmm as I said before and did an analysis of Flamewheel I thought he was suspicious.

in Flamewheel last post here he uses the word "concede" and Korynne also uses that word. This might be clutching at straws a bit but maybe Flamewheel pm'd her and she just wrote that pretty quickly without thinking.

This might be a bit hard to understand due to my bad explaining but hopefully someone gets it.

On June 18 2010 10:27 MooCow wrote:
VICTORY HORN!!