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Thegilaboy
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LaXerCannon has the quote "just keep swimming" which applies to the drowning in the fountain. TyranoS_Nivek and MooCow both have the same public profile except for the last sentence, and in both of them it mentions treading water for 3 days. May apply to the drowning in the fountain. deconduo has a picture of a boat in his profile; a weaker connection to the drowning than the above mentioned users onihunter has been swimming for 5 years, connects to the drowning | ||
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On June 03 2010 11:41 MooCow wrote: My bad on the edit I thought it was safe to do before the actual game started. Looking at Zeks suspicions and browsing through the profiles, 3 ppl kinda fits 29_deconduo ( water and an Irish poem that might mean something?!) 7_onihunter ( 5 [five attempts] years swimming yea? i'm sure he knows how to float in a town fountain 4_crate ( I think he's the only one that mentions anything about a car in his profile ) Another person with mention of a car in their profile is DCLXVI, in which it says: I'm just borrowing your Humvee! Also, jianbung drives people around in a van according to his profile | ||
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On June 03 2010 13:27 bumatlarge wrote: Just making a list of all suspects based soley on clues, in no particular order. Feel free to tell me if we are missing any. Profiles 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18. TyranoS_NiveK 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo Pics 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18.TyranoS_NiveK 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo I think 21 jiabung should be added because in his profile he makes mention of driving a van a few times, and we did have someone get killed by a car. Van doesn't equal car, but it's still worth note I think | ||
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On June 05 2010 04:17 LunarDestiny wrote: Either Misder and BrownBear are mafia and Misder voted late. Or BrownBear is having those bad luck again. That or Mafia is screwing with us. And Misder, can I hear your reason for voting brownbear? Seems like a really random vote from Misder. He's been quiet mostly, so either he is just tossing away his vote or something is going on here. | ||
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On June 03 2010 23:39 Deucegladlier wrote: Uh oh:O having everything in one thread makes it harder to read=(. Will have to catch up after school. Just trying to keep people active, can't have too many luuurkers | ||
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On June 06 2010 00:31 YellowInk wrote: Good morning, everyone! Thegilaboy - You helped collect some clues and you expressed that you don't like that I'm overeager, but beyond this you havn't provided much substance. You're not on the short list, but I'd like to hear more about what is on your mind about the game at large. Morning to you too. Sorry for not providing much substance beyond my clues! I'm new to this whole mafia game thing, and a bit overwhelmed by some of it  . As of right now I've just been watching you, Darth, and some of the other very actives voice their opinions so I get a feel for how this all works. I'm starting to understand some of the intricacies, and will try to be more vocal from now on!In terms of the game at large, I'm less weary of you and Darth now, you seem to be on the up and up. What concerns me are the very inactives who have simply casted a vote and disappeared, one case being Deucegladlier. He has said almost nothing in this thread, and all he has done is voted for himself, seems like strange behavior to me. But if he was mafia I would have expected him to try and vote in a mafia figure in conjunction with the rest of that crew, and that doesn't seem to be the case here. People who have voted and left no reasoning at all seem to be of concern for myself and others, and I really hope that those people speak up! All and all, this is a very cool game | ||
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On June 06 2010 01:30 LaXerCannon wrote: I'd like to know why you would want this especially since it would mean hell for some people (me) as it would require getting on the computer before going to school to meet this requirement. Agreed, I have work and other RL obligations and I don't think imposing a policy like this is fair (I am referring to the 12 hour thing here). Everyone could be more active yes, but trying to set down rules for it seems a bit much for some of our schedules | ||
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On June 06 2010 01:33 LaXerCannon wrote: That's not to say I mind everything else with that policy Absolutely, I actually really like the enthusiasm to get people posting more. Just that whole 12 hours between posts thing is a bit much! | ||
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On June 06 2010 01:39 YellowInk wrote: @LaXerCannon and Thegilaboy concerns expressed I don't see why the 12 hour thing is a challenge. You have a 48 hour window. This means you could post at hour 0 and hour 40 and you'd be fine. Or you could post at hour 24 and hour 36. It doesn't much matter to me. I'm sure almost everyone here has a job/school/regular obligations. Over the course of 48 hours you should be able to find two times to post. The purpose of the 12 hour policy is to prevent someone from sitting down and posting once (or in one sitting nearly back to back) in the entire 48 hours. I want to hear your impressions at different times in the day (at least twice). Does this make more sense? Forgot that its a 48 hour day lol, my mistake. Then yeah, that seems reasonable, and very doable! | ||
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On June 06 2010 03:42 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Well hello there. I'm somewhat overwhelmed with this thread, as no mafia game I've ever played had this much posting. That being said, I'm an active reader, even if I'm not an active poster up till this point. I don't see any point in posting just to post when I have nothign to contribute. I posted my opinions/suspicions and reasons. As far as "bold and uncalled for," I thought that posting my suspicion of YI and then declaring that I will not be voting for him was a pretty logical step. Oddly, some of us have jobs and/or lives and not infinite hours to post on this thread. You're welcome to demand whatever you want, but I'm going to post if and only if I'm damn well ready to post. That being said, I'll give an opinion or two. People I have a feeling about: (may or may not have anything to do with reality, your mileage may vary) YellowInk - Still somewhat unimpressed with his performance. When I posted, it was early in the day, and I've since softened my position due to his very active posting. I still think he's more likely to be Mafia than not. Awkward because he's in an elected role and is now immune to Role Checks. LunarDestiny - I feel good about him. I like his posting and I'm giving him a pass for now. burnatlarge - I am unsure how I missed this, but doesn't his name jump out for the burning ink clue as well? I hope I'm not the first one to see this. LaXerCannon - His profile is a famous speech from Hamlet, and didn't Hamlet's mother die from poisoning? His name is bumatlarge, not burnatlarge... | ||
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On June 06 2010 04:30 MooCow wrote: What do you mean by Mafia stacking hits? How many people can Mafia kill in one night? That depends on their current killing power I believe. And I think stacking means that they can devote multiple hits to a single target, to try and override a medic's protection | ||
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On June 06 2010 04:40 MTF wrote: No, we don't get that sort of information. We only know who got killed. Okay, really going now. : x Well that certainly makes things more difficult for us! Thanks for the quick answers | ||
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On June 06 2010 07:43 LunarDestiny wrote: People still have suspicion about Darth or YellowInk? It is good to always be aware of people lying but didn't we agreed in the election that they are the less likely to be mafia. At this point, we have to trust the mayor and the pardoner or we couldn't get anything done. It is good to question but saying that one of them probably is mafia is too much. Well, if Darth or YellowInk turns out to be mafia... I have the most responsibility. I started the band wagons for both candidates (their second votes are from me although I withdrew my vote from Darth). I don't think anyone is outright accusing them of being scum, but in a game of deception it doesn't hurt to be suspicious of everyone, and YI and Darth aren't exceptions entirely of that rule. That being said, I feel at least one of them could be scum, but not very sure of that right now. Also, I am very curious as to why you keep painting yourself as a target? We are aware, and so is the mafia, of your contributions to the thread and your activity level. I completely understand you asking for medic aid that one or two times, but you've gone so far as to post in the other mafia thread that you think you are dying in this one very soon. I guess I just don't understand why you are acting like this. Either you are mafia and are trying to make us waste a medic on you while the hits target other people, or you are town and just attracting more attention to yourself as a target than necessary. | ||
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So we have one stabbing and one guy getting pushed out a window right? I'll be looking at this a bit later, need to head to watch a flick with my friends for now! This is getting good | ||
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But I'll focus on the clues for now, and see what I can do to help the town while I still can. Death 1: Very ninja like, a clean assassination. I suppose look for individuals who have profiles pointing towards being stealthy, and handy with a knife (and that includes me, I know) Death 2: A weight, so look for clues that have to do with mass. AFJ references weights in his profile. I suppose the mention of "nothing standing in the way of overwhelming power" in Icysoul's profile matches someone barreling the victim out of the window. CompX's mention of a tiny stone giant match as well. That's what I've got for now, I'll be taking a better look soon. | ||
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On June 06 2010 14:44 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Whoa whoa overreacting a little bit aren't you? Day has just begun and no one has voted for you. Trying to find very vague pointers to other people (me for example) to divert attention away from yourself also immediately after the clue was posted is highly suspect. Didn't think I was overreacting, I was trying to be light hearted...I was just making note that I am an obvious choice, and others have made that connection too. And I thought the idea of this is to gather clues about other people, even if I have eyes on me. But if you'd rather I not "divert attention", by all means consider me out of your way. | ||
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On June 07 2010 04:54 Deucegladlier wrote: You know, I think there are mafia members in this game. Wait what, of course there are...Or am I totally missing something here lol | ||
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On June 07 2010 05:19 YellowInk wrote: So it seems to me that it's pretty clear we need to lynch inactives. I'd even go so far as to suggest a double lynch to get past this ASAP - tomorrow we may have a scum target and hopefully down to 1 inactive at worst. So assuming none of these people decide to step up and play, who do we like to target? CompX Deucegladlier TyranoS_NiveK Well CompX right away from the get go thought Elyas was a mafia, and never really posted anything of value after that (and of course Elyas ended up being townie) Deucegladier is just baffling to me lol. He's abstained (perhaps) twice now and his posts are just big wtfs. TyranoS_Nivek hasn't done anything since Day 2 began correct? If I missed something let me know, but I think he hasn't posted yet. He might just be busy, but it's worth noting for now | ||
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On June 07 2010 06:58 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Hm, well I thought I contributed by pointing out GilaBoy's obvious fail with the "Tiny the Stone Giant" thing, something which nobody had pointed out yet (though I fail to believe I'm the only one in this game who's played Dota). Is this not considered contributing?  Oh, and I'm not sure I agree that inactivity is an indication of Mafianess. We've already lynched an inactive non-Mafia. If we just lynch based on activity, the obvious Mafia counter-play is to just post a lot of blah blah blah. Sorry, never played nor looked into Dota, so I had no idea that Tiny was a character from it. Agreed though, activity level isn't always an indication of scum or not, but it's a general start. If the mafia posted a lot of "blah blah blah" they would be more likely to slip up and become inconsistent. It's that sort of behavior that we are looking for. The clues help no doubt, but they should be connected over time, so that they have a solid base to stand on. If a series of many clues points to an inactive or poorly posting individual, we've likely found ourselves some scum. Anyway, sorry again for not knowing what Tiny was, Dota was never really my bag | ||
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Here are some quick thoughts two posters that jumped to mind, I'll be switching over to a different analysis format later though. Deuce: seems like an obvious choice for a lynch simply because of his terrible posting and complete inactivity. He either doesn't care about the game at all or he is really trying to hide something. CompX: Where is he? As was pointed out earlier a couple times, his only real posts here are saying that Elyas might be mafia, followed promptly with Elyas getting killed off. I'll do the same thing others have and just use a random number generator to select 3-4 individuals and just focus on them from now on, as trying to watch everyone can be a bit overwhelming! | ||
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8. MooCow Plays the newbie card a lot, this much is true. He may actually be a legit newbie, but some of his questions are easily answered in the OP. Was hesitant about both our elected candidates, and repeatedly mentioned that mafia will almost certainly get someone in office. Does he still believe this, and if so who does he think is more likely to be scum between the two? You've warned us all to be weary of them, just wondering what your thoughts were on the matter still. Started putting clues together at the start of Day 2. Does a good job here in both making connections to various profiles, while at the same time acknowledging that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon. Also understands our need to get active posters in order to get reads off of that. I'm interested in his earlier looks at zeks and wondering if you've thought anymore about that at all? Sure he plays the newbie card, but hey this is a newbie game for the most part. My gut reaction right now is that he is pro-town. I'd like to hear more of his thoughts on suspecting our elects, and if he has anymore thoughts on zeks. 26. pyr0ma5ta In the election he opted not to vote for YI or zeks as they had clues pointing to them. He even went so far as to say: On June 04 2010 08:02 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Yellowink, not only will not vote for you as mayor at this point, at this point I am leaning towards lynching you first. Still feel this way pyr0? Later on accused me of making a stretch accusation with the whole Tiny the Giant thing, but considering the fact that I've never played nor looked into Dota ever, I had no idea of the character's existence. That being said, he promptly decided he would vote for me. So it goes though, everyone is certainly free to vote as they see fit. Began to argue against voting for Deuce, claiming that they are reasons some people stay off the radar. What interests me most though are he most recent posts, saying that we shouldn't be trusting our elects necessarily. I ask the same thing of you that I asked of MooCow, do you have any more specific thoughts on the matter. Besides just saying we should suspect them, at this point do you have anymore solid thoughts on the matter, or perhaps an individual you would like to focus on for analysis? Things like that could be very helpful for everyone, and I'd just like to know your opinion on the matter. 23. CompX Here is a super inactive poster, who started our game with the bold claim that: On June 03 2010 11:09 CompX wrote: guys, I think ElyAs can be a mafia His accusation was based on flamewheel dying from lightning, something that is a recurring theme is his games. Then suddenly poof, he's gone. Returns 600 some posts later to reiterate the fact that MooCow and Tyranos both have the same profile and could be linked to barth's death by their ability to defy the laws of physics. And he returns to Elyas by taking a look at his death. Makes the call of attributing the death to a silent killer, and primary suspects are then myself and zeks in his eyes. He knows a lot about the character in zeks' profile, and he seems to be a ninja of sorts. At this point in time I really would like to see CompX post more. I know he said he'll be inactive because of school, but a 600 post gap between he's thoughts is a bit much. I'm inclined not to trust him because of his very early call of accusing Elyas of being mafia, something that didn't hold any merit at all. That's what I've got for now. Probably should take care of a few RL responsibilities right now | ||
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On June 08 2010 03:34 MooCow wrote: Voting for Deuce due to his inactivity and he just seems like he doesn't want to be in this game. AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-; Hmm what do we do now that pyr0 is banned for two days? What is the general rule in mafia games if somebody gets a temp ban from the forums? | ||
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On June 09 2010 04:24 BrownBear wrote: If you kept your vote on Deuce, explain why you did. If you have already, you're clear, but for those of you who haven't, I'd like to know why. Also, if you were one of the people trying hardcore to lynch him, explain why you did so. I'll go ahead and explain why I kept my vote on Deuce. My reasoning for getting rid of deuce was three-fold: 1. If he was a townie, he was not helping us at all. He was making no effort to make analyses of either clues or posts. Instead when he did post, it was pretty much trash, and put a big question mark on him as a part of the town. 2. If he was mafia, he was doing an extreme job of trying to stay in the shadows, and pretty much was asking to get lynched at that point. 3. Being an inactive is terrible for the game in general. He was doing the very bare minimum to keep from being modkilled, and those contributions meant nothing for the game as a whole. Mafia or town it was bad form to take up a slot in the game and "contribute the way" that he did. | ||
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Not too much in terms of AFJ's death unfortunately. The survival of the fit quote may be relevant, will be scanning profiles for anything possibly connected with that. Otherwise he was stabbed while he was piss drunk, with not further information about the killer. The lack of a third hit means that either they stacked on AFJ or pyro, unlikely in my opinion, or that we had another successful medic block. | ||
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1. It could imply some sort of high status, a sign of accomplishment. a. Everyone with high SC league standings listed in profile: Hugoboss, 3 Lions (also liquibet champ), b. Tyranos has that super long list of accomplishments, implying a very "fit" individual. c. sputnik.theory has a list of accomplishments as well. 2. Any mention of winning/losing: zeks with the quote: winning isn't everything, it's the only thing; DCLXVI has quote about losers and winners. This all works under the assumption that that particular line was of value. Seemed to be in my eyes, what do you guys think? | ||
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On June 09 2010 12:40 onihunter wrote: I'm pretty sure that line's important. It seems a bit...out of place, you know? The rest of the paragraph could easily go w/o it, and it's a bit random. Right, and without much else to go with in the rest of the paragraph, I think it is definitely worth noting. And holy hell, nice catch on the 3 beers thing LD, that's pretty sharp work! | ||
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On June 12 2010 11:56 Misder wrote: What do you guys mean by LaXer rolechecking to be mafia? Doesn't that mean that the mafia wouldn't target him? Also, what about the fake medic? I don't understand. Could someone clarify? They are saying he roleclaimed to the mafia, not roleclaimed to be mafia. That means he was tricked into revealing his BG status potentially, giving the mafia a clear road to the elects... | ||
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On June 12 2010 12:03 Misder wrote: I think I understand the medic thing too. So LaXer told YI that he was the bodygaurd, so YI told LaXer to PM the "medic" (who was faking and is actually the mafia) that he should be protected. Does this mean that the godfather took the role of medic? That is possible, or it could have been just some mafia pretending to be a medic all along | ||
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Hugoboss21: Total posts: 10 Votes: Darth for mayor, Duecegladier for lyching, Onihunter and Double Lynch for lyching 1. Thought it was risky voting in YI to mayor because nobody else was linked to the hot ink murder. 2. Eventually voted for Darth for the above mentioned reason 3. 600 posts later, he says modkilled vigi sucks, and that school has made him inactive and he will try to amend that. 4. Woke up to find 2 blues dead. Made mention that the Electro Sapper could have been thrown at pyro, but in TF2 it doesn't serve such a purpose. Clarified after that it only works on buildings 5. Last post in thread: "wow this suxs for TyranoS_NiveK =[." Only 6 posts actually apply to after the game started, 4 of his 10 were concerning signups and his ability to see the mafia forums. As it stands, he seems to be a very inactive member who has made no effort for clue or post analysis. He is either a townie that is unaware of what he should be doing, or a mafia trying to fly under the radar. His posts are reactionary, always responding to a situation rather than initiating one. This sort of very passive play unfortunately indicates the two polar opposites of role, unsure townie or timid mafia. | ||
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On June 14 2010 04:50 bumatlarge wrote: I agree we should definitely oust darth and not hugo, because is a fagtron. Thats hugo you spineless wench, you dont deserve the towns attention. Not that hes mafia or anything, how would I know Should we be taking this as some sort of slip/indication? I was planning on voting bum and hugo anyway, and bum's outrageous behavior is only pushing me further in that direction. | ||
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On June 14 2010 06:30 DarthThienAn wrote: 2. uhh. Except I WAS sure about it. A DT has no reason to tell his role to anyone, except for who he trusts. On Day 2, my first DT claimed to me, along with a townie that he had rolechecked in our circle. I knew he wouldn't have told anyone else by then - how many people do you trust on day 2? - and if I were mafia, I would definitely take that chance. Kill a DT + confirmed townie early on, for the risk of the DT having told someone else? Sounds pretty good to me, tbh. Yep, and we've gone ahead and decided to announce to everyone that I am indeed that first DT. I've checked a townie, who we aren't announcing yet, and oni who we successfully lynched the next night. As of right now we have a medic situation set up to protect us, but it's time for a proper town circle to get going. | ||
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On June 14 2010 12:14 LunarDestiny wrote: LaXer, no shame man. I am this game's worst player for trusting darth 100%. Good thing town still won. Myself and deconduo (the DT) trusted him entirely as well lol. Played right into his little game when we thought we were making a circle of trust... | ||
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