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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 23 2010 10:47 GMT
#1126
presumably hesmyrr is about to die as well
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 23 2010 16:06 GMT
#1151
Ok, here's tonights game plan. Don't follow my plan just because I say so. Follow the plan because it makes sense from a neutral point of view. I had hoped to lay all this out via PM's with people, so that it makes it more difficult for players to dodge, but I'm not sure if that's going to work or not.

Our assets: Role Checker(Tricode), Role Blocker(Xelin), Vigilante(Brownbear), YT Killer(Abenson), Watcher(unknown). There is also an Alignment checker out there who is in PM contact with me, and I will be getting a random ability tonight as well, hopefully with investigative or NK powers.

So, we want to clean up the five main targets at the moment: Iaaan and Trez, myheronoob and Fishball, and Ohn. It's possible Ohn may still post his role and become more active.

Honestly, now that it comes to it, I'd rather not say the actions I recommend in the thread, so that we can't get screwed over too bad by medics/roleblockers.

I've PMed all of these people who my suggestions though. if everyone really thinks this should be public info though we can discuss it here.

Gotta go, more later.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 23 2010 19:00 GMT
#1158
On May 24 2010 02:49 Iaaan wrote:
I just want to point out that trez is a liar and I am not, because it would be retarded for me to counter claim for no reason when I could have choosen any character, as there was only what, 2 or 3 people left to claim? Trez tried to choose Cao Pi because Cao Cao was dead, and thus he would be ignored. Also, if you look at what he says about his abilities, the if he gets recruited, the faction leader dies, that makes it obvious he is trying to keep himself from being recruited for some reason. Some reason being that he is a faction leader, or that he has a special role and is going for a neutral win.

So, Trez should be killed unless he is working with Radfield and lied because he was the watcher or detective or something.



Trez is NOT working with me and he is highly suspicious at the moment. However, you also become suspicious by association, surely you see that. Hopefully tonight's actions will clear things up.

If there ever is a 'tonight'....

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 23 2010 22:54 GMT
#1177
Caller never sent me my role for tonight... and he probably isn't coming back...looks like I won't be able to help out. *Sigh*
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 24 2010 13:14 GMT
#1204
On May 24 2010 21:45 XeliN wrote:
Oh and Bill I roleblocked you last night, wasn't sure who to go for and I remember you jumping at the opportunity to lynch me as well as demanding I reveal my role so figured you were in need of some blocking.



What do you mean you roleblocked Bill last night? We've only had one night cycle so far, and you roleblocked me so.....

Unless you mean you going to roleblock Bill tonight.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 24 2010 20:45 GMT
#1238
It's Night 2 right now as far as I can tell. Yesterday's day went an extra 24hrs because Caller never showed up.

Once Caller posts we'll be on Day 3, and we'll vote again.


Xelin, Bill Murray claimed to have a role where he dies if we give him our armies. Please don't roleblock someone with an investigative role. I recommend Trezguet at the moment, or Fishball. In my eyes they are the two most likely leaders at this point.


Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 00:24 GMT
#1267
According to the plan, this is what should have happened last night:

Brownbear nightkilled Jugan ------> Dead
Tricode role checked Trezguet------> Leader
Abenson visited Fishball --------------> Not a YT
DT checked Iaaan------------------------> Still Awaiting Results
I tracked(temp power) BC -------------------------------> He visited Jugan, but Jugan is dead by Brownbear's hand, so BC is not a medic, but hard to tell what role he might have. At the very least he has a night action. Definitely should be checked tonight.

Also, the watcher probably watched Abenson, which is what I asked him to do. However, I think Hesmyrr wanted him to watch Tricode. If he watched Tricode, then we know who the YT leader is. In addition, Xelin roleblocked Fishball.

Presumably a bunch else happened, but this is what was planned.

Without further ado, we should all be giving our vote to someone who will kill Trezguet. I'm happy to do it, but if people feel more comfortable with someone else, that's fine too. As long as we take him out today. Unless of course someone reverse roleblocked Trez, and like 7 people visited him last night, including several vigs and a medic or two, in which case Tricode is probably lying....



Caller, if we kill the YT leader, do all the YT members die just like the other factions? I realize you might not answer, but it's worth a shot.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 00:26 GMT
#1268
On May 25 2010 09:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2010 07:56 johnnyspazz wrote:
On May 25 2010 01:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
abenson....hit bc


so bc is YT leader?


No I am not, but it would be nice to be cleared off the list of YT's




Just realized:

BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 00:27 GMT
#1269
EBWOP: Bah, BC could still be YT, just not the leader... nevermind
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 10:44 GMT
#1351
Nope nope nope. Sorry BM, I really don't like the plans you're throwing down. It smells of desperation, and it stinks. I'm inclined to trust Tricode's result for the moment, despite the fact that he got recruited. It fits that Trez is not neutral.

A few things we know, or likely know.

Trezguet is a YT with recruiting powers
BM is probably a YT
Tricode is a YT

Fishball is NOT a YT, but could be the green leader
BC in NOT a YT, but could be the green leader
Iaaan flipped neutral according to the alignment check

I'd love if the watcher could confirm who he watched last night and what happened, but only if it's pertinent info. So I'm going to assume that Abenson did not get recruited last night unless the watcher confirms otherwise.

So, we lynch Trez today, and if the rest of the YT gang is still around, Brownbear and Abenson kill the other two tonight. At the very least that gets rid of 3 YT members and significantly sets back their victory. We also have a host of investigative powers, and I think people worth checking out are BloodyC0bbler, Johnnyspazz, Scamp, Ohn, and Fishball(could still be green). Of course other people are likely green as well, but all we need to do is find the green leader. I would recommend the watcher watch Brownbear or myself to see if we get recuited.

Anything I'm missing? Any better suggestions as to how we clear all this up?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 10:46 GMT
#1354
@Xelin, if you roleblocked me the first night like you claimed, I also did not get a message informing me. It's quite possible that you simply don't get to know if you've been roleblocked
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 10:48 GMT
#1358
@BM: Why in gods name would you bus Trezguet!? It makes no sense. I posted in the thread that he would be investigated last night, and you decided it would be a great idea to bus him?? Explain your reasoning.

Either you have ulterior motives, or you are blatantly lying.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 10:58 GMT
#1360
On May 25 2010 19:51 Bill Murray wrote:
jeez i really have to explain this again...



Yes please, you never explained WHY you did anything. Just that you had some plan with Jugan(who's dead and can't confirm) to bus Trez and Scamp. I'd love to hear what that plan was, because it seems like it directly fucks over the town plan that I posted last night cycle. Also, who did you bus night 1? Presumably we should be able to confirm that it happened.

Everything you've written so far makes me think you are on Trez's side, trying to save his ass and prolong his life.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#1366
On May 25 2010 20:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I have an idea. Daykill me to prove that I am telling the truth about Trez not being the leader. I am really wanting a neutral victory, and that is why I have been posting considerably less since my recruitment. I am not going to hand you all the leader on a silver platter, but just trust me on this


Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT


Strange that you argue against my plan of Daykilling Trez and killing you at night, only to propose that we Daykill you and NK Trez. What am I missing here? It's the exact same result, except that we have to use two nk's instead of one. What are you playing at? All I can imagine right now is that you are doing your best to save your leader Trez, by delaying his death any way you can. Too much can happen at night, roleblocks, bussing, medics, etc. We kill trez now, and deal with the rest later.

Consider Trez has pretty much already admitting to being the YT leader:


"But unfortunately for these idiots they haven't told me who I'm working for or anything other then I have been recruited for them."

lol you gave me how long to let you know??



Caller told him that he is YT, caller didn't tell me that the recruitment worked, Tricode got too big a boner and shot his load in the thread because he couldn't hold it in.



All of Trezguets syntax point to him being the LEADER, not some lowly second in command brother. Anyways, that's hardly important.

KILL TREZGUET
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 11:22 GMT
#1367
On May 25 2010 20:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to sleep. Trust me on this guys. Give your armies to Radfield (fishball is probably green)



hah, well, I can't argue with this one....

If you give me your armies, I will kill Trez, that I guarantee.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 15:00 GMT
#1372
Fishball, I'm assuming you mean that Trezguet will die today with the daykill, and not tonight.

If that's the case you have my vote, and I urge everyone else to vote Fishball as well.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 15:02 GMT
#1373
Also, everyone should make sure they vote

##Fishball

and not

##vote Fishball


Not that it really matters...
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 22:05 GMT
#1428
Wow wow wow.

BM has claimed like twice thats he's YT and twice that he's NOT YT. And shockingly lied about bussing, who woulda know.

Lunar Destiny, you should Daykill Trez, so we can see if the whole faction goes down. If it does go down, then we can use our lynch on whoever we suspect to be green. The sooner we can go after green the better. If the whole YT faction doesn't go down with Trez, then we can use our daykill on one of the other confirmed YT members..

It's in our best interest to kill trez asap. If you imagine that instead of 1 dayvig and 1 lynch, we just had two dayvigs, we would definitely use the first one on trez. We basically DO have two dayvigs, so please use yours on trez, so we will have more information for the lynch vote.

@Darth: why do you keep saying that Abenson is not neutral?? I missed anything to that respect in the thread, unless you mean when abenson asked if he should claim if he gets recruited. Also, where did MyHeroNoob unclaim his name?

Here is a list of people I currently trust as neutral. No one else has to trust them though, but I do.

Darth
Brownbear
Iaaan
Lunar Destiny

People I kinda trust:
Xelin
Scamp
Fishball
Falcynn

people I don't trust:
Jspazz
Ohn
BloodyC0bbler

YT Members
Tricode
Bill Murray
Trezguet


Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 25 2010 22:34 GMT
#1433
On May 26 2010 07:31 XeliN wrote:
In his defence there's no mention in the rules and he didn't quote ^^


Or did he? Dun Dun DUNNNNNN
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 26 2010 00:55 GMT
#1453
On May 26 2010 09:45 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2010 09:39 ohN wrote:
On May 26 2010 09:32 DarthThienAn wrote:
On May 26 2010 09:20 ohN wrote:
On May 26 2010 08:04 Scamp wrote:
Name claims I find most likely to be fake.


3: Pang Tong: Ohn. I know he was one of the last to claim, and Shu already has a strategist in Zhuge.


Since I think this is the only way you're going to believe me:
My ability is that I can watch one person per night and see who they visit.

1st night I watched L, he didn't visit anyone according to Caller. (Which I thought was strange since didn't he recruit Hesmyrr?)
2nd night I watched Abenson, he visited Fishball.


It seems like we have a lot of YT figured out
Some things I'd like to add:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2010 00:12 Abenson wrote:
Since I want the neutrals to win right now, would it be okay to announce that I got recruited?

Abenson is green or lying about being recruited since he still decides to help the town with taking out the YT.

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2010 09:26 Radfield wrote:
Just realized:

BC visited Jugan last night, and since Tricode got recruited as a YT, BC is absolutely not a YT. If Trezguet flips as the other leader, then BC is clean.

BC visits Jugan during the night and doesn't offer an explanation as to why, when he is asked. His response after Radfield posts his visit to Jugan is:
On May 25 2010 09:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Feel free to send abenson at me then, it will confirm that I am not actually a YT, or at least, not an informed one.

Which at least makes him suspectable for visiting someone and dodging the question of "why?"

BM also mentioned making a "plan" with Jugan but all his posts are BS so I don't think it holds much.




To clarify:
you watch someone and see who THEY visit, not who visits THEM, correct? So you are a tracker, yes?


Yes.


But... L visited Hesmyrr night 1. They both died from the Day 2 lynch. Soo...

...

anyway, nothing that you said confirms you as a tracker -__-, since it's all been public knowledge. All your claiming does is enable us to direct your night actions as we can.



Yep, that doesn't quite add up. L had to have visited Hesmyrr night one, unless L just bullshitted Hesmyrr and hadn't actually recruited him. Either Caller forgot to inform you of whom L visited, or you're lying, or you got somehow roleblocked, which sems unlikely, since Xelin blocked me.

Anyways, I can confirm that there is a tracker role in the game, as that was my role last night. In my books, Ohn is likely not a leader.
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