EPTNah, anyone who wants to play can play for now.
##Kill Last Romantic
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Nah, anyone who wants to play can play for now. ##Kill Last Romantic | ||
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Wei has collapsed… for now. Callers statement On May 20 2010 11:56 Last Romantic wrote: Huh? There was no 'playing' to do, I just got offed Oo; I don't see what I was supposed to do differently edit: also, I thought I took two hits to kill? I'm quite confused. Last Romantic's death post. Perhaps Last Romantic is still in the game? Is that even possible? Could he be resurrected at some point? Perhaps another character in the game might take over the Blue team?? I know absolutely nothing about the Three Kingdoms lore so if there's some sort of precedent that might indicate Cao Cao having additional lives, or Wei getting a new leader fill me in. | ||
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On May 20 2010 10:49 Caller wrote: hey assholes, the sooner i get your night actions the sooner we can get this show on the road I thought this was a "strict" 24/48 hour cycle. Or is it more that the day length is fixed at 48hours, but night just ends whenever the actions all get in? | ||
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 But seeing as how the blue team collapsed and no one else died, I think we can be confident that the faction leaders only start with the leaders. | ||
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On May 21 2010 02:32 Falcynn wrote: I actually think radfield's "Even if I'm a confirmed towny" was mostly just to tell everyone that whatever anyone thinks of his role now, his actions don't have any effect on his likelihood of being recruited. Not to actually exclaim that he's a confirmed towny. He probably just threw that line in there since that would probably be the extreme of what anyone here would be thinking. Absolutely. People were stating I was a confirmed townie and that I would likely be recruited because of that. I was simply pointing out that even if i WAS confirmed, it doesn't make me all that much more likely to be recruited. Pretty much the only way to be confirmed in any game is through alignment checks. Actions can always be misleading. Lets face it, I got pretty lucky with LR being a leader, but obviously no one expected it. It's not like I skillfully deduced his role. I said I'd lynch inactive hanger-ons and he hadn't posted a single thing. If you voted me in again tomorrow I'd probably kill off myheronoob because he's in the same boat. I'm totally OK with voting for someone other than me. It's super fun to be able to type in the ##Kill, but I'm cool if we decide on someone else. | ||
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On May 21 2010 05:11 Korynne wrote: Haha, gotta love the rush of power. Even if it is just for killing people online in a pretend game. xD hahah, so true | ||
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On May 21 2010 16:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...Actually so far roles haven't been revealed on death. Nobody but me knew about my loss of abilities. (Killed night visitors, and a special requirement for me to be killed during the day.) So I dunno where your going with this, but I'm fine with killing L. Iaaan will probably die with him. Also...Don't DT's check alignment? Seems more like a role check role.... L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment. Agreed, this sounds much more like a role check. I imagine an alignment check would simply come back as blue/red/yellow/etc. Given that it's a role check, it would be unlikely for it to not be accurate. I'm not even sure how an insane dt would work in this format, I mean, there's no bad guys or good guys really. Insane dt's work in normal mafia because everything is clear cut. Tricode maybe you could tell us your characters name, and we could run it through the LunarDestiny ROTK machine to see if there's any lore reasons you might not get an accurate result. Currently I believe Tricode about his role check, and I think L is a likely faction leader. It's possible L is telling the truth though, as it would make sense for the YT's to sacrifice a member to kill off a faction leader. That would be an excellent trade for them. So if we imagine that Tricode is a YT, where does that get us. Well, for starters the YT's would have to KNOW L is the faction leader before they decide to sac a player to kill him. It makes no sense to try and kill L unless you suspect him of being a leader. So this means the YT's must have used some KP last night(or a role check, in which case Tricode is telling the truth anyways) to try and kill L, only to have it not go through, therefore they would claim that L is a faction leader, given that it's basically been confirmed faction leaders have veteran abilities. Only, L is just a regular townie, and happened to be saved by a medic, which threw off the YT calculations. This is basically what L is saying happened. As far as I'm concerned, the simple way to clear this up is to have the medic role claim. I don't understand why people think that roleclaiming medic would suddenly make you a target? There's no mafia here. A medic absolutely doesn't threaten the faction leaders one bit, and doesn't threaten the townies. Why would anyone waste kp on a medic? If anything, it makes you slightly more likely to be recruited is all. So I'll be voting Tricode for now, unless a medic pops up and verifies what L has said. Of course it's possibly that L is a faction leader that had both a medic and vig/assassin target him last night, but oh well. Basically, as a neutral townie(hell, any alignment), I don't really care who flops what. But this will give us some interesting info at the very least. Also Tricode, even if you're telling the truth and L flops leader, it doesn't make you any more trustworthy as the game progresses, because you could be recruited at any time. In fact you would likely be recruited YT with powers such as yours. | ||
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There are also other roles in the game among the Prefects, such as alignment checkers, role detectors, assassins, and more. But you can figure those out for yourselves. Yeah, I'd say there's a good chance of having some role detectors..... | ||
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On May 21 2010 22:47 Fishball wrote: One thing I want to point out. Medics, DT's, Assassins etc. does not necessarily mean a good recruit; These players don't have to help their leaders if they didn't want to. Also, keep in mind they don't know who their leader is even if they wanted to help. I disagree, alignment/role checkers and Assassins would make excellent recruits. Sure they might decide to not help their leaders, but that goes for every role in the game. Plus YT recruits will always play to their fullest given that they can't be swiped away. And remember that the leaders have the option of getting Caller to notify a new recruit. For instance, if I got a msg saying I was recruited to the green team, and then the green leader contacted me the same day, I'd be pretty damn sure that I'm on the green team. Given that all players likely have a role, it would be bad practice for leaders to not tell their members that they've been recruited. Also given that we're down to three factions(possibly two after today) there will be much less member swiping by the leaders. Which again makes it more likely for the leaders to tell people they've been recruited. Anyways, alignment/role checkers and assassins make excellent recruits, because as a faction leader you would be able to find and eliminate potential threats, and also find good roles to recruit. | ||
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The more I think about it, the more I think we should let L live for now, and really focus on hunting the YT's. But I'll think on that some more first. | ||
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My initial feelings are this: Tricode believes he is telling the truth, and I'm have a hard time imagining why he would lie, if L is not a faction leader. Can someone please tell me what Tricode's motivation would be to lie about L being a faction leader?? Xelin has been awfully quit, and I think it's time for you to claim as well. If you are a leader I sure as hell hope you didn't recruit me last night and then not tell me about it. I'd be seriously pissed if you get daykilled and I go down with you.... Also, if you roleblocked me you should let me know. Via PM or whatever, because that is important info pertaining to what I did last night. Also, it seems with the clusterfuck that happened last night at L's house, we can't really draw any meaningful conclusions because of Hesmyrr's role. It's inconceivable that that many people could be lying at this stage in the game. Hesmyrr, I like your plan, but I think your putting too much emphasis on your interpretation of your role. Obviously people got notified last night of actions that went down at L's house, so your power is slightly different than you imagined. It's very possible that Tricode did in fact get off an accurate role check. For now I still think we should kill L. Unless he offers up roleclaim and it turns out to be somewhat legit. Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something? On May 22 2010 05:28 XeliN wrote: Rad no doubt your wondering "What did XeliN do to me in the night?!" Let's just say the lubricant, beads and assortment of Barry Manilou CD's didn't just materialise overnight. Also the headache's and grogginess should wear off soon. Was it good for you at least.....? | ||
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On May 22 2010 05:53 XeliN wrote: Rad surely if I recruited you anonymously you would still be told you had been recruited into a team. As you consider it a possibility that I recruited you does that mean you have been anonymously been recruited into a team? As far as I know when you are recruited the only thing that can be held back is the name of the leader who recruited you. You ought be careful what you let slip out Mr Radfield, I told you that last night, but you probably don't remember. I am Jian Wei, the Tactician and I can Roleblock. I chose you as you seemed giddy with power and quite dangerous. + Show Spoiler + It started off well and good, but then this masked man came in and grabbed you saying "He is mine....!" and branded you with a colour, but I can't remember which..... Caller clarified that it's up to the leaders whether or not the member gets notified. Which means people might have been recruited last night who right now have no idea they are part of a faction. Roleblocking... is that what the kids are calling it these days?? I appreciate you bringing the lube though.... | ||
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Johnnyspazz: Spamming and lurking, hasn't made a real post all game Ohn: Lurking hardcore, pops out immediatly after posts to clarify/comment and then disappears. Adds nothing of his own. MyheroNoob: Completely inactive DarthTheinAn: Still lurking Jugan: Pretty much just spamming. He mentions the YTs in pretty much every post. If this were regular mafia, I'd be looking real hard at Jspazz and Ohn. But as it is.,...., Anyways, just wanted to point these folks out. | ||
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On May 22 2010 06:57 BrownBear wrote: Well, since everyone else has namedropped in the past several pages, I might as well namedrop myself: I am Zhao Yun. I have the power of nightkill ^^ So with all the people who have roleclaimed, I think rather than looking at the people who have roleclaimed and analyzing to see if they're lying, it would be far more interesting to look at the people who HAVEN'T yet roleclaimed. They are: 1. Bill Murray 3. johnnyspazz 4. Radfield 5. Scamp 6. Ohn 7. Falcynn 8. Iaaan 9. L (states he has reasons for not doing so, since his role is a "poison pill") 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 19. Trezequet23 20. Fishball (pretty sure the Qin Shi Huang roleclaim was a joke  )21. Lunardestiny 23. DarthThienAn 24. Jugan This is a (mostly accurate) list of the people who are still alive and have yet to roleclaim. It's far more likely that at least 1 or 2 of the faction leaders are hiding in the majority of people who don't roleclaim, rather than trying to lie and make up both a name, a role for that name, and reasoning behind that role. Honestly? I think at this point in the game, it would be a good idea to have everyone roleclaim, complete with their name. Then, we can focus on the people who either refuse to roleclaim, or make roleclaims that don't really make sense. Also, L, I understand you don't want to roleclaim, but especially with XeliN having claimed a role, that's putting you kinda back in the spotlight. It would be great if you could explain somehow either why your role would be useless if everyone knew about it, or if you could just roleclaim. If I win the dayvote, I will be sure to follow the will of the town, but the will of the town might be falling against you if you continue to be coy with your role. Well, a mass role claim is an interesting idea. I'm trying to figure out the pro's and con's. Obviously this puts heat on the leaders, given that they would need to come up with a name of some Three Kingdom person, and hope they don't overlap. If everyone has a unique name we could lynch the most obscure people. Obviously we know what to do if people overlap with names. However, if some of the leaders manage to hide, then it gives them a full list of roles, which would be invaluable to them. They would become very strong, very quick. Worth some thought though. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:05 Bill Murray wrote: i don't see how my claiming will benefit the town. if enough veterans feel i need to, i will. The real question is if everyone claiming benefits the town. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:15 L wrote: So, do you want me to claim or not? Entirely up to you. I'd be happy hearing your name, if you think it's important to keep your role secret. | ||
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