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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
April 22 2010 20:39 GMT
#31
InB4 L tries to draft Manuel L. Hackson.

I'll join if XXII is over for me before it starts.

I have to admit I didn't read the draft order dealy. I'll just pick two numbers and accept wherever you say I'm drafting.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 02:11 GMT
#201
Oh wow, good thing I checked when I did. Now I need to catch up on the discussion.

Was the time of the game start listed? If not, I was thinking I would get a PM about drafting. Well, I was thinking that whether or not there was an official time, but anyway...

I already get the feeling that Radfield is mafia. Now to go make my decision...
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 02:29 GMT
#202
Okay I just read through the thread with 30 minutes to spare.

My numbers were [10] [11]

I'm totally down with taking Copy Cat.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 02:55 GMT
#205
Bleh. I feel like I'm being typecast here.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 04:32 GMT
#221
Ace could you please put the draft order in the OP?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 02 2010 16:17 GMT
#251
I'm really failing to see the logic in a lot of people's posts.

So maybe we figure out a powerful role (like compulsive vig) is in the hands of mafia somewhere near the top of the list. We get to weed him out. But you know what else is at the top of the list? All the powerful townie roles.

And I'm not ready to take all the evidence we have at face value yet. You know who might by lying? Qatol. You know who might be lying? Korynne. You know who can verify this? Pretty much no one. I doubt anyone else tried to take copy cat and I have no idea what Korynne was going for. I'm also curious as to why, if she didn't get her role, is she not pushing hard for BM and Foolishness? She kind of mentioned them and then went after citi.zen.

I, for one, am not afraid of a mafia copycat. If we get a mafia with a day 1 lynch then they had the role anyway. And even if we lose an exceptionally powerful role we'll still know where it is. I think it might be best to push for BM or Foolish right away, the only problem is whether or not I trust Korynne. Right now I'm not sure.

Zona why are you bringing up Red Army and World at War for examples? Those games are completely different situations.

I'm also curious as to the people who have been talking about getting the info out there as soon as possible. We can't PM in this game, so you know what people have to do in order to reveal this information? That's right, they have to reveal themselves.

Also, does no one care about the Serial Killer that's hanging around who's bulletproof and can't be found by alignment checks? Sounds to me like we might have two compulsive vigs.

I think if I were SK I might just shoot myself a few times just for fun.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 03 2010 03:40 GMT
#289
Oh whoops. I thought the deadline was tomorrow.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#321
How in the world does confirming your role also confirm you as town?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 03 2010 23:07 GMT
#335
On May 04 2010 06:34 Bill Murray wrote:
How in the world does making troll-like comments help the town?


Honestly, I don't know. You should explain.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 03 2010 23:57 GMT
#338
On May 04 2010 08:42 Bill Murray wrote:you're funny. quit trolling and do something.


Aw, thanks so much. As for doing something, I'm following your lead. Now we're even on the "stuff done" front.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 04 2010 05:45 GMT
#353
Note that if there is a copy cat, he is now a weak doctor.

Also note that d3 took doctor at 8.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 04 2010 14:19 GMT
#374
Personally, I'm wondering if there's a good reason not to lynch Foolishness right now.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 04 2010 21:00 GMT
#445
Falcynn seems scummiest to me.


The compusive vig is interesting because people really want to see what happens with it, but why I can't say. If the mafia has CV as well as day vig that's a lot of KP that's going to be pointed our way. I also don't really see how the CV is that beneficial to the town. Sure, it's like a double lynch, but this isn't a big game and the mafia KP is very small. Why is it good to double-lynch all the time? Better than having it in mafia hands, I guess, but I don't see it as that good a thing.

I do like having a CV-directing discussion because there's also a serial killer out there as well. The thing about the serial killer is that he wants to help town until the very end. Perhaps he'll start targeting townies if we get a few mafia really early, but that's the only reason why he'd try and kill town (unless the tracker is discovered). He'll lose if the mafia win, so he needs to kill mafia, and he needs to kill them first.

I don't see how killing Sidesprang gives any great information. If he flips green then someone in the top ten is lying? Yeah, I could have told you that without lynching him, since I can tell you that right now. Multiple people in the top ten are lying, all the vanilla claims should have made that obvious.

While looking at the numbers is interesting and all, talking about mafia taking the same numbers and the like is silly. It's especially silly as a defense. People could, y'know, be lying about their numbers.


All that being said, Sidesprang still does look suspicious, and it'd be nice if he posted.

Bill never explained what that phone was supposed to do, did he?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 04 2010 21:01 GMT
#446
Citi.zen you really seem like you're trying to contribute but you're also not paying close attention to the game at the same time.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 01:14 GMT
#487
Sounds to me like Qatol is mafia. I'll add him to my list with Falcynn.

vote: Sidesprang
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 02:51 GMT
#497
I guess we could compvig vote now, but I'd much rather see the results of our lynch before doing such a vote.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 03:06 GMT
#504
If BM didn't take inventor and it fell into mafia hands then BM is mafia. I can't think of any scenerio other than that, mainly because who would try to pick inventor unless they knew for a fact that it was still there after the first pick?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 03:24 GMT
#507
On May 05 2010 12:15 johnnyspazz wrote:
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If BM didn't take inventor and it fell into mafia hands then BM is mafia. I can't think of any scenerio other than that, mainly because who would try to pick inventor unless they knew for a fact that it was still there after the first pick?

scamp, i don't think anyone is denying the BM is the inventor unless i missed it earlier. why are you bringing it up?


This is why.

On May 05 2010 11:55 Foolishness wrote:
Right, my bad on that, there must be an inventor. However, if BM didn't take inventor and it fell into the mafia hands, they might have incentive to keep quiet about it. And I still say BM could have picked a cop with a "i'm going to win this game for the town when i come out with all this information day 3!!!!" attitude.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 06:32 GMT
#514
It looks like Ace missed my vote.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 19:47 GMT
#549
Bill just because the game is hosted by Ace doesn't mean you have the right to berate people to the extent you're doing it.

Well, maybe it does, but I still don't think it's nice.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 21:35 GMT
#574
Wow that would be so cool if we still had multiple medics in this game right now. Especially considering 40 percent of all deaths in this game are medic-related.

Best case scenerio is we have one medic, someone is bulletproof, someone is a veteran, and they're all town.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 22:38 GMT
#587
Well this protecting BM talk is wonderful and all, but are we agreed that the compvig should hit Johnnyspazz?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 05 2010 23:08 GMT
#597
Qatol this whole cell phone as detonator thing is striking me as wildly paranoid. Not that that can't be the case, but you constantly bringing it up is starting to get annoying.

I was probably wrong about Radfield and Qatol, but I don't think my suspicions were so off-base. My quote on Rad was before the game even began, and Falcynn, BM, and Foolishness haven't exactly done much to rid themselves of suspicion IMO.


And no, my vote for SS was not after majority had been reached. I think I was right in the middle, which is of course the most likely spot for a mafia bus. So that doesn't actually help my defense.

I really don't think anything I've done has been so wrong.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 06 2010 01:07 GMT
#615
Bill Murray seems to be doing everything he can to get me killed.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 06 2010 02:28 GMT
#619
On May 06 2010 10:54 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 10:07 Scamp wrote:
Bill Murray seems to be doing everything he can to get me killed.

I think BM has gone back and forth between about 4 people so far for who he thinks is most obviously mafia. Don't worry, it'll blow over in another few hours at the current rate.


I'm not talking about getting killed by the town, I'm talking about getting killed by the mafia. First he says he should have given me the cell phone, and now he's screaming that I'm blue.

But maybe you're right and it will just blow over. I'm going out for about four hours, let's see what happens in that time.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 06 2010 17:51 GMT
#685
Actually, I'm kind of confused why people suspect me right now. There's a whole lot of analysis and then I'm thrown in there as a good lynch target.

Has my play been anti-town at any point? I don't think I've seen much evidence of that. Just a list of people I find (or used to find) suspect.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 06 2010 18:46 GMT
#690
The only problem with Korynne being mafia is that Foolishness would have to be mafia too. Remember that compvig was never actually confirmed, though if Radfield is telling the truth then there is one in the game (or we have a very sly mafia Joat).

Now that BM is confirmed inventor, for Korynne to lie about not getting compvig that means that Foolishness did not pick it. If Foolishness did not pick compvig then he would have no reason to lie to us at this point except if he's mafia.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 01:26 GMT
#763
On May 07 2010 07:46 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 03:46 Scamp wrote:
The only problem with Korynne being mafia is that Foolishness would have to be mafia too. Remember that compvig was never actually confirmed, though if Radfield is telling the truth then there is one in the game (or we have a very sly mafia Joat).

Now that BM is confirmed inventor, for Korynne to lie about not getting compvig that means that Foolishness did not pick it. If Foolishness did not pick compvig then he would have no reason to lie to us at this point except if he's mafia.

I don't follow this at all. And I do not believe I have lied about my role at all, although if you think I have please quote me so I can clarify what I meant.


I'm saying Korynne said she didn't get compvig with the third pick. To do such a thing means she's either the ballsiest mafia around or she knew it was gone or she's telling the truth. Either a mafia tried to take it later or Foolishness is mafia, if you assume that Korynne is mafia. I never said you lied about your role. I said that if you were town and didn't take Compvig, you'd have no reason to keep that info from the town.

On May 07 2010 04:55 Qatol wrote:
What? Why can't we have a mafia Korynne and an innocent Foolishness? Foolishness could have just been innocent and gone against his assignment. He does do somewhat paranoid things from time to time. Like in the speed game, he told me he was in contact with a nonexistent vigilante because he was suspicious of me. Late game, when we needed that vigi to take a shot, it didn't happen and we lost.


I suppose it is possible to have an innocent Foolishness and a mafia Korynne, but based on the way the game has played out I just don't see why Korynne would want to call that much attention to herself.


Anyway, I'm down for voting Darth tonight, and not because Radfield is offering me some kind of asylum. I honestly don't think Korynne is that suspicious right now and Darth is a much better candidate. I think he's one vote away from death right now, I'll be back in an hour and see if anything changes.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 01:26 GMT
#764
Oh never mind. I think I just got crazy double-vote ninja'd.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 04:38 GMT
#796
Oh wow, my mind is officially blown.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 05:16 GMT
#803
Well now everything makes a lot more sense.

How about we CV Hobbes?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 05:16 GMT
#804
JeeJee what is your problem?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 06:52 GMT
#809
It really shouldn't be hard to see why I'd pick Hobbes. I don't see "Jeejee vouches for him" as any kind of defense.

My posts are rarely semi-long and they're never nonsensical. Please pay attention to the game.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 14:05 GMT
#814
I really don't see how Hobbes and JeeJee are in the clear. They didn't even do anything during the last day phase except vote.

Meanwhile JeeJee's attitude against me is troublesome. All he's been saying is "kill Scamp" with no explanation why and with tunneling persistence. Other people have at least bothered to share their opinion.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 22:46 GMT
#830
I still don't get the reasoning toward me. I was softly defended by Darth? I don't really think much of his defense and the retraction from it. I don't even think I was under any serious heat at the time either. You guys really think that makes a case for me? As in the best case we've got going on right now?

I'm honestly amused at the lack of a case against me yet people's willingness to seriously target me.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 08 2010 02:46 GMT
#833
What the hell? No one is here?

Compvigging me is a MAJOR mistake with a capital M.

Throwing that out there last-second.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 08 2010 03:20 GMT
#839
Lol Jeejee. Seems fitting.

Best of luck, town.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 11 2010 07:15 GMT
#1094
I think next time it'd be a good idea to PM people and say "Hey, this is a notice that the game has started and you have one day to draft a role." I'm so used to signing up and then ignoring the thread until I get my role PM. Good thing I checked the thread an hour before the deadline, although all I protected this game was a Serial Killer. Made the mafia use a daykill on an SK, though. So silver lining.

I really don't see how town was lucky the mafia killed Rad. He was clearly the person the town was looking toward for leadership at the time. That's generally why neutral parties don't go all-out on the scumhunting. On the other hand, you can't just play like a typical SK and not expect to be looked into for it.

Yay town win!
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 11 2010 08:35 GMT
#1100
I like to think that not reading the thread is still a valid excuse. I was probably being ultra-lazy but I didn't think to read the thread after receiving my first PM. I really expected to be PM-ed with the draft order when it happened. I suppose I never should have gotten that idea in the first place, but I don't think the OP ever had any information on when the draft would start either.

To me the signup phase is where I care the least. It's just a bunch of people signing up or making random comments. I might check the OP to see changes or who's signed up so far, but that's about as far as I'll go until I know the game has started.

There's a difference between not reading anything at all and not being sure and being lazy. Case in point: I don't think Darth read the opening post regarding the SK's win condition.

Anyway, I can see how you wouldn't want to hold people's hands and badger them with unnecessary things, but I think you should also consider that if you're using an unconventional format that it's a good idea to make sure people understand what's going on.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 12 2010 00:58 GMT
#1125
Guess I'll add that to my record of "game changing saves" as a medic, though I dunno if I really want to.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 12 2010 05:44 GMT
#1128
On May 12 2010 10:24 Qatol wrote:Hey 5 saves in 3 games as medic is still nothing to sneeze at. I just wish you had contributed more in the thread this game.


That may not have been a good thing. I was pretty off this game in terms of my deductions and suspicions.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 12 2010 05:58 GMT
#1130
I usually don't like to join in unless I have something new to bring to the table. I didn't really have solid evidence on some of my suspicions, and I really liked the conversation you and Radfield were bringing to the table. So I figured my options were to say "I agree," derail it for no good reason for my own suspicions, or watch and contribute strongly later.
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 12 2010 08:56 GMT
#1133
On May 12 2010 15:03 Qatol wrote:
I see. I guess it made sense. I was just surprised because you made a comment about a suspect list of myself and Falcynn but then didn't really do much to push your suspects. I guess you just didn't feel you had a strong enough case?


That and I also wanted to see how people react to such accusations. That is something I probably should have delved into more, though you were pretty clear anyway IMO. Falcynn and Hobbes were just basically gone no matter what, so it was sort of pointless on them as well.
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