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 But really, now we're just going to get a bunch of differing opinions from either helpful townies or mafia who want to look like they're contributing and no good information will be learned. Anyway, from my experience in mafia inactivity is usually a great way to get lynched, because not only are you a detriment to the town but you're also a ruiner of the game in general. Other than that, people actually tend to rely on meta-gamey stuff such as if your name is L, you find a way to kill Ace. | ||
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Also, it just looks like a plan to randomly out townie power roles. Legit townies then have to lie or be exposed. And if they start lying, well that helps create the mass confusion BM wants us to avoid. Add to this that BM is suggesting the idea of a mass roleclaim...because it worked wonders in one game where people could PM each other and there were no green roles...yeah, I'm not listening to any plan from this guy. I didn't notice that Abenson was practicing spamming before the thread, but he's doing a good job of it so far now that the day is done. d3_cres posted that there are at least two assassins. I've got to believe that there are no less than three. Otherwise, why would you get a kill refunded for hitting an assassin? | ||
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But also, I agree. | ||
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Anyway, I agree with you and Radfield, if people are still inactive with 6 hours to go or so then we don't really need to worry about them. Even if they just post/vote at the last minute we can just pressure or kill them the next day. No townie that actually wants to win would use this strategy to lurk, so that's that. Also, it isn't really that hard to go after/find people that are both largely inactive and suspicious too. Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules! | ||
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Also Bill Murray, I'm glad you mentioned that you aren't asking for people to role-claim to you, since you can't PM in this game. | ||
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It is interesting to note that he did propose to keep Caller around noting: "If he's not mafia he'll benefit us." He also thinks BM's assassin plan is dumb but in his final post he's willing to discuss it. So, there really isn't much to go on with him this game IMO. He's either confused town or confused scum. Honestly, I'd actually consider him being an assassin based on what he's said so far. Not liking the last five pages or so at all. Just a lot of people bickering at each other and the same names popping up over and over. It's all a major distraction, and I have no idea what it's supposed to be distracting from. Shame on every townie that's willingly a part of it, what the hell do you think you're doing? I also wonder why Bill Murray seems to have dropped his plan so suddenly and willingly. I have to confess that it didn't make sense to me, so maybe I missed something, but I don't think that anything that has happened so far should have derailed the plan as he proposed it. And now for the centerpiece: Ace and Caller. I actually really like Caller's defense but as he noted there really isn't any defending him now. If Ace is mafia trying to BS us then I'll happily take one mislynch now for a dead mafia the next day, whether by lynch or by vig shot. And if Ace is a townie or assassin or whatever trying to BS us, then I'll seriously have to think about playing with him ever again. | ||
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Even WIFOM doesn't really work here. | ||
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Anyway, I think I was asked to explain why I thought Rage was suspicious day 1, but it also looks like d3 was specifically asked. So I would like him to answer it first, but if people (and by "people" I, of course, mean Ace) want I can go ahead and answer it first. Going through d3's posts in the archive, though, I didn't get the same vibe that Ace did, but rather a really bad scumdar sense. That is, either he's scum or his suspicions have been way off the entire game. | ||
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And what about myself, Scara, and Fishball? Do YOU have any opinions of us three, or are you just throwing this out there? On April 25 2010 13:19 d3_crescentia wrote:Scamp - I am thinking Ace wanted to call to attention to the "either it's jpak or nothing, so I'll go with jpak" comment and subsequent silence afterward. I don't really read much into this comment, actually. What actually bothers me more is the lack of posting here. I don't think Ace wanted to call attention to that comment. He just made a note of it and moved on. I didn't think there was anything wrong with it, hence I didn't say anything. I do have a problem with you going: "Ace wanted this, I'm bringing it up but I don't really care." | ||
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Maybe a vig or assassin targeted one of the four or Incognito. | ||
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On April 26 2010 19:54 Korynne wrote: Conclusion: Looks scummy to me or just really un-contributing. So what do you think? Oh what about you? Hey guys analyze me while you're at it. Etc etc. If townie, pretty useless. Unsupported scumdar of d3. Why would you want someone to just randomly analyze you? To take their time away from analyzing other mafia? Why are you grouping yourself with Scara and Fishball? Do you know that they're both townies and hope that if you're last on the lynch list you'll manage to slip by? Why did you ask BrownBear if he's preemptively defending himself? Do you know he's innocent and that he's accusing someone innocent so you're hoping he'll get lynched? But seriously, WHY DO YOU ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS??? Dx "Well gee I don't know, what do you guys think?" -paraphrased from Scamp Kind of a sardonic method of phrasing your analysis. I don't think I've ever asked "what do you think?" without having a point behind it. Nor have I ever said "I don't know" in the manner you're referring. The analysis I requested on myself wasn't random. And to take time from analyzing other mafia? Is that seriously what you read into my posts? I'm grouping myself with Scara and Fishball because that's the result of the first half of KF91's list. He thinks we're all mafia. I don't know if they're townies or not. I asked Brownbear if he's preemptively defending himself because I find it very odd that he would take the time to defend himself since A: a wagon hasn't even started on him and B: he's more worried about saving his own ass than catching mafia. I'm not sure what your problem with me asking questions is. Note that none of them have been answered yet. | ||
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Well for starters, go back and read Brownbear's love-letter analysis of him and that should cover most of it. I find it interesting that BB makes a big deal of BM being so good at analysis, while not including the times where BM has been incorrect and also not noting that BM's analysis had nothing to do with catching scum. But I'm not analyzing BB. I'm on BM. BM's analysis of d3 is lackluster at best. It's like he went through the first day or so, highlighted one post, then called it a day. How come there's no mention of d3 questioning two people I personally find suspicious - Osmoses and Madnessman? How come you don't touch on the giant post where he calls you, BM, out for basically doing nothing to help catch scum despite saying you're going to step it up? In general, people seem to assume that he's bored and uninterested, but still townie. I'm not willing to let him off the hook that easily. His opinion constantly flip-flops and sways with the slightest provocation. He said Caller looked townie to him, but as soon as Ace revealed his rolecheck he was on the Caller wagon post-haste. In fact, the only people he seems to have had any feelings about are Zona/Rage/KF91. All KF91 had to do was post up analysis on some players and that was it, he's pro-town. He hasn't talked about Zona or Rage recently, and I know Zona is now BrownBear but that's also something interesting too. He hasn't mentioned BB at all, which means the only thing that interested him about Zona is inactivity. My verdict: Make him step it up or kill him. | ||
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On April 28 2010 04:33 Bill Murray wrote: you're taking my thing with rage completely out of fucking context what i said to rage was a JOKE relating to the fact that his icon is red maybe you should learn how to read the passages where they occurred in the thread, or not completely take them out of context, but i guess that's your agenda since you're obv scum and we as a town need to lynch you. Oh, good point. Now you've done even LESS. | ||
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On April 28 2010 13:53 meeple wrote: Alright... well in light of this roleclaim I'm going to switch my vote. Unfortunately, BrownBear picked a role that can't be easily verified. He's incorrect that the mafia will now be after him, since they'll spend 2 hits to kill him when really they could be going after more easily killable townies. He's still under suspicion, perhaps now more than before... but if he's mafia it will be really difficult for him to get away with. So it's really difficult for anyone to verify it, mafia won't be after him and town should back off. But it'll be really difficult for him to get away with it if he's mafia. Do you see how that doesn't make any sense? The only reason I do believe BB's claim? That was perhaps the dumbest way to claim that I've seen yet. It oddly lends credibility to the claim. But the reasons why I don't trust it: He apparently couldn't be bothered to read the rules even though he's trying to exploit them. The rules do not say that it's illegal to fake a roleclaim from the host, but they do say you cannot post a PM from a host. See the difference here? Notice he wasn't modkilled. And what's with risking a modkill so that the town doesn't waste a lynch? That's just silly. | ||
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Anyway, I'm still noticing that more than a few people have voted for me, and a grand total of ZERO of them have asked me to explain anything. Either they have some grand evidence that I'm not aware of, or they're simply voting for no good reason. | ||
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On April 29 2010 09:44 Bill Murray wrote:i really dont see why youre putting FoS on him, yet voting for me... makes no sense. i am one of the most obvious town players remaining. people should really just vote with me, lynch scamp, and ride my coattails to victory. he is obviously scum, and has been detracting from and derailing the thread from the get go with his shitty one liners. not only that, but he is trying to wagon someone for being inactive/noob in a lylo situation. that's OBVIOUS scum. Exactly where am I wagoning someone for being inactive/noob? You're just generalizing and incorrect at the same time. Shitty one-liners from the get-go? Are you even paying attention? Ride your coattails? You haven't done anything. There's nothing to ride. | ||
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On April 30 2010 12:15 Bill Murray wrote: well players like scamp or meeple are obvious choices. i feel like kf91, rage, and incognito are probably town. i am not 100% on this either... one thing I know is we cant afford to mislynch here. It's do or die, now. You've been on my case lately game with no explanation. Several people have just been going after me with little to no explanation. If you really think that I'm an obvious choice you're simply not putting effort into the game. Simply put: If you'd ever care to explain yourself I'm all ears, because you've barely done anything of the sort all game. | ||
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Right now Osmoses has confirmed mafia to me by voting myself and Scara without bothering to post in the thread. And while she's been useful in the past, I think we need to look at Korynne for disappearing yesterday. My case and thoughts on Bill Murray is pretty clear at the moment. Finally I still think madnessman is also a good bet. I do need to go over the recent dead's posts, though. But I really don't think Scaramanga is a good target. Nai and nbt are okay, but I'm definitely sold on Osmoses. Also the lack of activity is disturbing. I really hope it picks up soon. | ||
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I'm uneasy about how quickly people are voting for protoss, nbt, and Scaramanga. I doubt it's only townies voting so far and we're at double mylo. Someone in there probably isn't mafia. We're going with Incognito, everyone! Hope he posts soon. If he doesn't, I really hope people are willing to follow me. | ||
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My greatest hope is to force the mafia to do to Incog what they had to do to Ace, after lynching two mafia of course. | ||
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I'll just bring this up now: We need a double lynch passed for tomorrow as well as two dead mafia today. It's my only vote of the day, I don't think this should have been overlooked by anyone. People really aren't paying much attention to the game right now. | ||
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I was right about all my top suspects except for Incog, and that was a huge mistake. Next time I get vet I've got to play it differently. Spent too much time trying to get hit. | ||
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