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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 21 2010 04:16 GMT
#1021
oh nice of you to finally call out Caller after I already did the dirty work infundibulum. Put your vote where your mouth is and get rid of this scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 21 2010 04:17 GMT
#1022
dont worry rol you'll always be better than me
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 21 2010 04:22 GMT
#1023
CALLER THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

##NUKE CALLER##
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 21 2010 04:22 GMT
#1024
On April 21 2010 09:39 Incognito wrote:
Alternatively...we can use this system. It'll be good for getting a quick and dirty analysis of everyone, and it will give everyone something specific to do. Not only that, but it will all help you improve your mafia hunting skills. So I propose that (after the day post goes up): we all analyze the player below us on the player signup list. Last person (madnessman) analyzes the first person, obviously. Ignore dead people (obviously). We should get out the analyses quickly, then we can go from there.

Tips for analyzing players (in this case, the player under you):


OK i'll bite. My Player is RoL.

RoL's posts from zbot and a couple from when i refreshed the thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 13 2010 12:50 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am in yo~


On April 14 2010 21:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 15:58 Caller wrote:
wait ace is playing?

^signup

##nuke:Ace

I like the way you think.


On April 15 2010 01:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 22:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On April 14 2010 21:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On April 14 2010 15:58 Caller wrote:
wait ace is playing?

^signup

##nuke:Ace

I like the way you think.

Shouldn't you have nuked Caller?

Nah, Caller is the person I aim to kill/nuke whenever Ace is not in the game.


On April 16 2010 11:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I have been banned for blogs on two occasions.

Shit sucked. But do it Billy, you should be fine.


On April 17 2010 12:58 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Awesome, LETS DO ITTT


On April 20 2010 04:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
sorry for my inactivity, I am catching up right now. I am on page 18. I was working a lot all weekend.


On April 20 2010 05:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
In my defense as I catch up. I have had a very busy time.

However, I will do something I don't like to do very often. Look at the past to prove the present. Me appearing inactive means absolutely nothing. The last three games I had shit going on and went inactive for a day or so, nearly got lynched then the next day nailed a red.

If you give me the time and don't kill me, I will produce results and I will get reds. All I need is to actually survive one day. If I am forced to rush through reading the entire thread I am bound to miss something. I am pretty decent at behavior analysis and later in the game I will definitely be able to nab mafia for us. Just give me the chance.

I am on page 21 at the moment, I am working on catching up. I will not propose any lynch candidates right now because quite frankly I do not feel comfortable doing so without being up to date.

I am not an inactive player, and you'd be a fool to vote me. My weekends just always get jacked up with work, in the last 3 days I worked 30 hours. Friday I had school 10-2, work 3-7, Saturday 10am to 10pm, Sunday 8am to 6pm, then started reading mafia got tired and went to sleep.


On April 20 2010 05:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh and in case this BM plan thing is still getting attention. The thing is retarded. The Assassin's have no incentive to play along with the town since it would just draw the ire of the mafia. There goal is to sniff out Assassin's not help the town win.

The Assassin role will work like this. Early on they will behavior analyze like crazy and use their role checks in attempt to confirm each thought. If they guess correctly they will kill another Assassin the following night. However we should expect the amount of kills happening every night to increase a lot on night 3, when the Assassin's use up both role checks and have to result to just killing people.

At that point, chances are they are likely going to hit more mafia members then town and it becomes a sort of Russian roulette game. The assassin's hope to hit each other, but will start annihilating both sides.

Until then however, I would expect assassin's to be contributing like a blue role. Trying to contribute as little as possible so they can coast on by, because they don't want to appear like mafia to the town and post negative, and they don't want to help too much so the mafia kills them.



On April 20 2010 07:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ace u tryin 2 say summin bout me?
bitch


On April 20 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I would like to max out whatever I get a discount on, then rerail the thread.


On April 20 2010 09:05 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
well now we are back on topic. I finished reading and I think for this night we are doing the best thing. Jpak hasn't contributed anything, no reason to keep him around.

I will do some behavior shit in the morning :D

Also on the issue of lynching I don't think we need 20 votes for a lynch, I think its 20 votes for an immediate lynch on someone, or the person with the most votes by the end of the day gets lynched.

I PMed flamewheel about it though, so I guess we will find out.


On April 21 2010 01:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On April 20 2010 16:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 20 2010 16:10 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 20 2010 16:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I should also toss out as a general note. Ace is typically super against day 1 claims (not sure why not ones really brought this up yet). So the fact he is openly roleclaiming to me is insanely odd. Even bored, purposely jumping out to add random confusion to the game doesn't seem like his regular style, as he enjoy's being the voice of reason in games.

just a little something for those to think on.


yeah i remember a game where someone day 1 roleclaimed as a medic and ace let them have it.... judge? something like that. do you know what i'm talkin about?


First game that comes to mind would be folca vs ace in mafia III where folca claimed dt and checked ace claiming ace was red.

Ace then argued how day 1 you always lynch the accuser. He has advocated this stance many many many times. He has also gone after people for day 1 roleclaims. Anyone who roleclaims day 1 should be strongly argued with, as they can't get away scott free with their claim so on and so forth.

If it helps, I don't truely believe hes a dt, and instead enjoy reading his post for subtle hints.

I agree that he is not likely to be a DT, however I think they are referring to when vivi got railroaded in micro mafia I and at the end of day one he claimed medic and we lynched a medic, then the mafia killed our DT.

Then Ace managed to convince everyone to kill Citizen somehow.


On April 21 2010 12:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
It is sad that this night we would see the deaths of the likes of these. Let us salute our fallen comrades.

Radfield, the noble detective.

Foolishness, the valiant madhatter.

Hobbes, the honorable medic.

Although we wished to not be enemies to the red, and to live in harmony as we both go about our individual ways.

WHY COULDN'T WE JUST LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE?


On April 21 2010 13:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh god Ace, I wish I was as good as you at picking out mafia on Day One!


On April 21 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 13:06 Ace wrote:
On April 21 2010 13:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh god Ace, I wish I was as good as you at picking out mafia on Day One!


Yea one day you'll be pro like me man lololololol.

d00d but seriously, I already got one!

I swear.


On April 21 2010 13:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
wtf do you mean nevermind?





OK, let's look past the spam here. He says he was busy with work and couldn't post and would make some thoughts as soon as he could, and he did that. Now he is back and spamming the thread, so that does lend credibility to the claim that he was away all weekend.

RoL's main points:
- he is not an inactive player. give him time and he will find reds.
- BM's assassin plan is dumb (already been said multiple times)
- Assassins will use behavior analysis and we should expect them to post in the thread the same way a blue would
- Jpak hasn't done anything, no point in keeping him around
- Ace is not likely to be a real DT

the rest is spam. So far, RoL has not lived up to his claim of helping to find reds. The other stuff he said was already covered and neither new nor helpful contributions. Maybe he needs some "more time?"

I do believe RoL was actually gone for the weekend, but he has yet to step up his play in the slightest.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 21 2010 04:25 GMT
#1025
On April 21 2010 13:16 Ace wrote:
oh nice of you to finally call out Caller after I already did the dirty work infundibulum. Put your vote where your mouth is and get rid of this scum.


Not so fast, Ace. What happened to always lynching the claimer, your old mantra? There is always the possibility that you are lying about your rolecheck, and then we lynch Caller and lo and behold he flips not green then we have to spend another Day lynching you.

Granted this is a different scenario than a Day 1 claim as we have some posts to analyze. But I'm not going place any votes on anyone yet until i'm caught up with the thread all they way (missing some pages before this one, just saw this as I replied)
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 21 2010 04:27 GMT
#1026
Great, so I have to nail a mafia every day or you will kill me?

Fine, BC is mafia.

Rolecheck confirmed it.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
April 21 2010 04:30 GMT
#1027
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!

(Semi-)active suspicious people:

tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.

Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob


Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple

***
Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday!
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2010 04:31 GMT
#1028
bein' green we ain' privy to dem hoity toity rolechecks
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 21 2010 04:31 GMT
#1029
On April 21 2010 13:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 13:16 Ace wrote:
oh nice of you to finally call out Caller after I already did the dirty work infundibulum. Put your vote where your mouth is and get rid of this scum.


Not so fast, Ace. What happened to always lynching the claimer, your old mantra? There is always the possibility that you are lying about your rolecheck, and then we lynch Caller and lo and behold he flips not green then we have to spend another Day lynching you.

Granted this is a different scenario than a Day 1 claim as we have some posts to analyze. But I'm not going place any votes on anyone yet until i'm caught up with the thread all they way (missing some pages before this one, just saw this as I replied)


Yea this isn't a Day 1 RC. This is an RC after I already found Caller to be scummy. But hey if you guys want to lynch me good luck!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 21 2010 04:32 GMT
#1030
Ace they better double lynch us then

Loool
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2010 04:36 GMT
#1031
Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red,


i'm weird? understatement of the century.
what do you mean by "plan"...
I have followers?
funky like smelly or like a funky ass bass solo?
i'm accusing more than normal because i have nothing better to do only my mind and vote
my play is evolving

"Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list."

why are you talking about me then? you are a lot more suspicious than i am



Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red,


rolecheck me i'm fucking green
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 21 2010 04:36 GMT
#1032
who are you even quoting bill? Use names please.
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 21 2010 04:37 GMT
#1033
On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote:
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!

(Semi-)active suspicious people:

tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.

Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob


Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple

***
Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday!


I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
April 21 2010 04:38 GMT
#1034
Wow my bad I would edit and spoiler that... my bad.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2010 04:39 GMT
#1035
On April 21 2010 13:31 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 13:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On April 21 2010 13:16 Ace wrote:
oh nice of you to finally call out Caller after I already did the dirty work infundibulum. Put your vote where your mouth is and get rid of this scum.


Not so fast, Ace. What happened to always lynching the claimer, your old mantra? There is always the possibility that you are lying about your rolecheck, and then we lynch Caller and lo and behold he flips not green then we have to spend another Day lynching you.

Granted this is a different scenario than a Day 1 claim as we have some posts to analyze. But I'm not going place any votes on anyone yet until i'm caught up with the thread all they way (missing some pages before this one, just saw this as I replied)


Yea this isn't a Day 1 RC. This is an RC after I already found Caller to be scummy. But hey if you guys want to lynch me good luck!


i don't believe in luck. i also don't believe in sacrificing a detective for 1 red, so here's what we're going to do.

we're going to lynch caller, and find out if ace is lying. we will use medics to protect him if he's telling the truth, and if he's not we'll lynch him because as a town we need to lynch all liars.

in all likelihood ace isn't lying, and caller will be red, so medics you may have had your task of finding someone to protect made a whole hell of a lot easier
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2010 04:39 GMT
#1036
that being said you should have considered protecting ace anyways
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 21 2010 04:41 GMT
#1037
On April 21 2010 13:37 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
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On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote:
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!

(Semi-)active suspicious people:

tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.

Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob


Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple

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Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday!


I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.



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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 21 2010 04:43 GMT
#1038
On April 21 2010 12:12 KF91 wrote:
Alright, I'm going to go along with Incognito and do my part:

iNfuNdiBuLuM

Important post summaries:
- Urges people to vote to prevent a no lynch

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On April 18 2010 04:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I want to remind you guys that this game is running the "majority lynch" rule. This means that if no majority is reached, there won't be a lynch.

No lynch is bad for the town. It's like giving a time walk to the mafia (mtg reference nerd lol). This also means abstaining is bad! So please pay attention during votes as they operate a bit differently in this game than most TL mafias.


- Talks about the timing of the double lynch
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On April 18 2010 06:34 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
@ KF91 and radfield

I have never liked double lynching early. Most of the time there just isn't a good amount of information at this time and at least 1 townie gets lynched.

One thing fw needs to clean up is whether we can have a double lynch but then only lynch 1 player. I myself doubt it.However, if we can back out, then double lynching is a little less risky since we won't be forced to do a lynch on bad info.


- Supplies the inactive list
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On April 19 2010 02:11 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
These people have not posted yet since the game started or have made about one post with only a few lines in it of little substance:

Roffles
nbtnbt5
krndandaman
Fishball
Elemenope
tree.hugger
rebirth of legend (but he posted a lot pregame too)
RaGe
Jadefist
TheLardyGooser
Caller (wtf mate)
love1another
jpak

Now this is a rather large list (let me know if i missed anybody). One reason could be that the game started on the weekend, so don't think this is some end all be all declaration of scum/inactivity.

However, two things:

1. if we want to lynch an inactive Day 1 this is where we start
2. if you are new and not posting but are here, you should probably start! we don't bite.


- Defends Caller saying that he wouldn't pull of the same mafia act twice in a row
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On April 19 2010 02:19 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On April 19 2010 02:17 TheLardyGooser wrote:
I still think BMs plan makes the most sense if I understand it right. I feel like it would put the mafia at a much bigger disadvantage but I am still new at this?


The problem is that we have guarantee that everyone will comply, especially the Assns. As i posted before, the plan basically runs contrary to the victory condition of an assassin, so it makes no sense for them to comply. If i was an assassin i'd spend the first couple nights rolechecking people anyway, since you have so few kills.


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On April 19 2010 02:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
edit: NO guarantee.


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On April 19 2010 05:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On April 19 2010 05:56 Ace wrote:
We can just lynch Caller since it's been shown when he doesn't post he's scum.


I dont know. do you really think he'd expect to get away with the same thing for 2 games in a row?


- Medic and DT list

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On April 20 2010 13:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Guys remember to check out the ZBOT thread, it will be a very useful tool in the near future. I wonder where Zona is though? Busy programming/making love to the robot? I'm sure he'll turn up.

Anyway some suggestions from little old me -

DT list:

Anyone suspicious and/or semi active. From my POV this includes motbob, tree.hugger, BM, TheLardyGooser. Maybe rage because of Day 1? Use your best judgment.

Medic List:

The obvious - Ace (even though he's not helping ... yet, he actually might be a DT), Zona, BC, Incognito, myself (lol )


What makes me really suspicious about infun is the fact that he is looking very pro-town by stating is facts clearly and not getting accused that much, but at the same time, he hasn't been giving any ideas as to what the town should do. He's been giving little nudges here and there to guide the town, but he hasn't really put out a plan we should look at. He doesn't make any type of accusations about anybody and I believe that he doesn't even have suspicions against others.

He really hasn't contributed much after the Ace/Caller/nAi incident, and his last few posts have been mostly one-liners (But I guess I can't really blame him, because the thread post-Night 1 has been getting... spammy.), but it is quite noticeable how his long-drawn posts have recently turned into short one-liners.

Random trivia:
- Infun made the most interaction with Caller in his posts.
- He has made 27 posts since the beginning of the game (Using the archive, so I may be wrong)
- Voted for jpak during Day 1

Final Conclusions:
I personally believe that Infun could be a mafia. His non-aggressive posting style and his recent inactivity (Or lack of posts with content) makes me want to believe that he is mafia pretending to be a "helpful" townie member. He might have had something come up in real life, so we'll have to hear what he has to say. Of course, these are just my thoughts, so feel free to criticize me about what I think about him, and Infun can bash on me if he wants to as well. :D


Well I can't hate on you for getting analysis out there, since it's what everyone needs to be doing instead of posting useless garbage. So props. But some things you said about me simply are, well, factually incorrect or misguided.

I already explained my inactivity in another post. Real life shit; I am a busy man. Here I am posting and making up for lost time though.

I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that I'm contributing to the town. Look at all the players that aren't contributing anything. It sounds like your concerned that I'm contributing, but not contributing enough. That's fine, I'll try to be more direct in my posts. I never bothered posting any sort of town plan in this game, largely since this game is not about specific town plans - e.g. Bodyguard plans or Assassin plans - but largely about town activity and discussion, which is why i was trying to post helpful information and thoughts about general playing strategy that will best benefit the town. Additionally, why do I have to post aggressively to be town? I have never been a particularly aggressive player, except that one time in Mini Mafia I where the town lynched me and I was the medic and I got really mad (jerks).

You say I was never suspicious of anybody..., right after a quote of my DT list of people I thought were suspicious.

I'll add a couple more:

Caller
Abenson (strangely quiet)
meeple - same as others
RoL - based on my previous analysis
Scaramanga - probably pretending to be useless

anyway i ask people to continue the incog idea of player-beneath-you analysis. hopefully this will get some inactives out of the woodworks when they see their name in the thread.


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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 21 2010 04:45 GMT
#1039
so infundi you are still saying I am useless? This is not fair yo
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 21 2010 04:48 GMT
#1040
I didn't see your rolecheck on BC until just now. I am ambivalent as of yet.
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