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Infundibulum
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Fishball
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On April 21 2010 14:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Oh wow I forgot about the roleblocker. nobody has claimed to be blocked yet? that's odd. What do you mean odd? If the Roleblocker blocks a player with no night actions, eg. plain Townie, Miller, nothing happens. The person being blocked wouldn't know. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 21 2010 14:19 Fishball wrote: What do you mean odd? If the Roleblocker blocks a player with no night actions, eg. plain Townie, Miller, nothing happens. The person being blocked wouldn't know. Oh, are you sure? I thought everyone got PM if they were blocked, regardless of role  also possible is the mafia blocking nobody, and having a red come out and say he was blocked. Like jeejee did in WaW. | ||
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Fishball
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On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote: Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though! (Semi-)active suspicious people: tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping. RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless. RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town. Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet. Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever. Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo. Falcynn: Useless chatterbox. nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for. madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either. Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful: Scaramanga Fishball Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked. JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town. nbtnbt5 love1another AcrossFiveJulys motbob Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality: infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town. BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town. Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?) meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him. Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple *** Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday! Oh please abuse me. A little bit more to the left... yeah right there. | ||
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Ace
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Fishball
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On April 21 2010 14:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Oh, are you sure? I thought everyone got PM if they were blocked, regardless of role also possible is the mafia blocking nobody, and having a red come out and say he was blocked. Like jeejee did in WaW. It has always been like this in every game. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Get'em. | ||
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Infundibulum
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On April 21 2010 14:22 Fishball wrote: It has always been like this in every game. Oh lol. I think the last game i played that had a roleblocker (besides WaW) was Mafia 2... so i guess i'm not exactly up to speed. thanks for clarifying. | ||
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Ace
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Today you should be voting for Caller. | ||
IntoTheWow
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From that list I start looking at meeple, Zona, Abenson and RoL. Zona gave some interesting logical way to play for day 1, plus argued against BC's post pretty fast, which I disagreed with too. Then he posted something interesting about claiming to be detective on day 1, which made me wonder about ace. So I went to look for the rest. RoL's posts have been pretty weak in terms of logic. Lots of spam and filling. Same with Abenson, plus he's "inactive". But still managed to rally along with RoL to lynch jpak. And at pretty close times. Meeple is weird. One moment I feel he's trying too hard to defend himself, kind of like his desperate. Things that made me suspect of meeple were his "anti double lynch" post. But I don't know what else to make of him. Then there's the inactives who don't post at all, but still make it on the voting. motbob for example, posted very little, still managed to change his votes. Means he has at least followed some of the thread to change his mind, but still decided not to post. I need to read more t_t, brb. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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Also, I mentioned in my other post I was going to post more stuff, but I did want to get out that part out of first, to see what people thought of it. | ||
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Ace
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IntoTheWow
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meeple
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nbtnbt5 - His very few posts in the thread have just to say he supports BM's assasin plan, and the plan to lynch an inactive. Moreover, the feel of his posts give me a hint of mafia with no idea how to act green. Still needs more posting and information to confirm. Voted for himself, then a fairly random vote on Falcynn... The self-vote gives me further suspicion that he's red and struggling with the role. Abenson - Lots of crap posting... saying alot and remaining active but not actually contributing very much at all - He might be implicated if Caller really does turn up red, by this post: On April 19 2010 07:05 Abenson wrote: Hmm... Caller is always interesting. I propose we keep him for a bit. He is a veteran, after all. If he's not mafia he'll benefit us. And he prefaced this game by saying he's well known for being useless, which is somewhat of a cop-out so that he doesn't need to answer for what he says. And Elemenope I'm still waiting for your trademark few but lengthy posts... | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On April 21 2010 11:16 Bill Murray wrote: This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit. since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me. We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage: Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum, There are also people who have scummy suspicious posts or are strangely quiet like meeple, Zona, abenson, or KF91 Hi BM. This post is the first one of a series I get to analyze because I'm suddenly getting jumped in the time I was at work. Now everyone, lets start the game of fun. Notice the bolded part of the post of BM's. He wants a town circle going (yay circles) but he specifically mentions creating the circle around him.....HOW. Without the use of private messaging, no circle can form around any specific member, as he can't be their voice. In a game with post in thread only information, a circle is formed via public roleclaims (which would have to be proven). The only real way to accomplish this is for DT's to publically announce their checks, then you have to prove the dt. THey die their info is legit, etc... Lets carry on. On April 21 2010 10:13 Caller wrote: obvious blue snipers are obvious who's capable of blue sniping? Zona Ace BloodyCobbler (he's REALLY good at it) me Incognito Hi caller. Let me educate you on something. I am by far the worst blue sniper on that list in this format. My entire style is based around manipulation of people via out of thread communication. Anyone who has talked to me previous would also know my style of hitting people as mafia is killing key contributors, not blue sniping. Thanks for playing though. On April 21 2010 13:57 DarthThienAn wrote: In light of this, and Ace's alleged RC on Caller, would it be appropriate to double lynch today (Day 2)? In doing so, we catch either of them if they are lying, or else we kill two scum, which seems like a great result to me. + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2010 13:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Well I can't hate on you for getting analysis out there, since it's what everyone needs to be doing instead of posting useless garbage. So props. But some things you said about me simply are, well, factually incorrect or misguided. I already explained my inactivity in another post. Real life shit; I am a busy man. Here I am posting and making up for lost time though. I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that I'm contributing to the town. Look at all the players that aren't contributing anything. It sounds like your concerned that I'm contributing, but not contributing enough. That's fine, I'll try to be more direct in my posts. I never bothered posting any sort of town plan in this game, largely since this game is not about specific town plans - e.g. Bodyguard plans or Assassin plans - but largely about town activity and discussion, which is why i was trying to post helpful information and thoughts about general playing strategy that will best benefit the town. Additionally, why do I have to post aggressively to be town? I have never been a particularly aggressive player, except that one time in Mini Mafia I where the town lynched me and I was the medic and I got really mad (jerks). You say I was never suspicious of anybody..., right after a quote of my DT list of people I thought were suspicious. I'll add a couple more: Caller Abenson (strangely quiet) meeple - same as others RoL - based on my previous analysis Scaramanga - probably pretending to be useless anyway i ask people to continue the incog idea of player-beneath-you analysis. hopefully this will get some inactives out of the woodworks when they see their name in the thread. When I was going through Osmoses's posts, I noticed that too... Abenson hasn't really done anything since the beginning of the game.. pretty suspicious. It has been mentioned multiple times in this thread we can vote on double lynch and it then is able to be used the following day. Also, with one dt dead, and ace and RoL claiming dt(or assassin). The chances of having any more than the three is slim (possibly 1 more?) plus however remaining assassins. Heres the issue. Why would two veteran players publicly claim that they are assassin/DT day 2. Ace claimed day 1 and spent the day being a complete tard, and RoL was completely inactive. Suddenly both are saviours day 2? hardly. One if not both are completely full of it. This game is hilarious. In the span of 6 hours, two people who were fully inactive have jumped out to "save our town" and bring us to victory. Both know the flaws of this sort of play. However, lets start with the fun and excitement of it all. RebirthofLegend. RoL is typically insanely active of a player. Hiding in the shadows could be explained if he was a DT, as he would want to avoid being hit. However, with a record of activity then suddenly none at all, this would stand out to any player who has played with him, and most likely led to his death. Sudden change of behaviour like this is something someone would zero in on. Next, as a random note. While he was posting his incriminating facts against me here he forgot one vital key. When your suddenly posting insanely actively in a thread against someone you talk to daily, blocking them or appearing offline on a messenger client, not the smartest idea  (no this isn't a rule break already clarified with flamewheel that it is a legitimate). GG mate.Motbob. Don't let this man fool you. He has been active on TL. While he has been ignoring things like mafia, he has been streaming, being heavily active on irc, etc... Again. A player with a history of activity vanishing into thin air but still active elsewhere shows fishyness. GG again. Zona Hi buddy, Your on a list of suspects because of one key issue. YOUR NOT POSTING. I don't care if the excuse will be "sorry guys, was building an archiving bot to make our lives glorious". It serves no purpose as you have contributed nothing to this thread. You were initially active then faded for days, while proving you were still around but not posting. Get off your ass and help or get shot like your mafia pals. Caller You put me on a list knowing full well where my speciality in this game lies. Then emphasized me over Ace who is much better at behaviourally linking roles in thread. Pushing for my lynch is clever, but sadly with Ace's RC of you, your red. But don't let that stop you, your buddy RoL came in to save your by pointing a RC at me. The days of glory are upon you. A few pages and some countless spam and even you could be saved in a hilarious way yet again! Bill Murray and DarthThienAn and ITW for all posting stupid crap regarding PM usage, and use of Double lynch that we can only vote on but not use today, are on the derailer list. I will have more thoughts as i go back and re read. Stop making me play, I was happy relaxing. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 21 2010 14:44 meeple wrote: And Elemenope I'm still waiting for your trademark few but lengthy posts... Elemenope was replaced by Incognito at least two days ago now. Also: Vote count updated. | ||
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meeple
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On April 21 2010 14:47 flamewheel91 wrote: Elemenope was replaced by Incognito at least two days ago now. Also: Vote count updated. lol... fail on my part... too many people to keep track of. I wondered why his Zbot entry was so short. | ||
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