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IntoTheWow
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:31 Ace wrote: Yea this isn't a Day 1 RC. This is an RC after I already found Caller to be scummy. But hey if you guys want to lynch me good luck! Right. Part of me thinks you're not actually a DT and just using your clout to bluff this through because you think Caller is red. And don't get me wrong, since I do particularly value your thoughts on other players to be very worth considering. Caller's reaction is funny too because it's exactly like Rage's reaction that he was analyzing; brushing off the assault casually and without concern. Anyway maybe he's writing up some fantastic defensive post, probably about 1 of the following a) he must be the miller b) ace is a liar c) a big twisty post because caller is red and trying not to get executed d) all of the above :p | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:51 IntoTheWow wrote: I'm just curious. Role checks are PM'd to the person who made them, but no one else knows for sure right? Ace could just be making up whatever role check he thinks best fits him. If I'm wrong in my train of thought please tell me. This is true, but we have two situations as I see it: 1) Ace is mafia and tricking us - we lynch Caller and see that he's lying, so he's just given himself up. It's still pretty early in the game, so this would be pretty stupid, a 1 for 1 trade cutting the mafia down to 6 with only 3 KP. 2) Ace is the DT and telling the truth and pro-town. We lynch Caller, he's red, and ... all is well. lol. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:51 IntoTheWow wrote: I'm just curious. Role checks are PM'd to the person who made them, but no one else knows for sure right? Ace could just be making up whatever role check he thinks best fits him. If I'm wrong in my train of thought please tell me. You could be right, however he would be playing very anti-town then. The thing is if Ace is lying and just wants to kill Caller it would be stupid, he could argue behavior analysis and probably get him lynched. Sure this would get it done with less effort, however if hes wrong he sets us back two lynches, which would suck for us. In short, he could lie, but it wouldn't make sense unless he was trying to sac caller to gain town trust to ride it through the game to mislead us further. That move was done to caller by MrBabyHands in a previous mafia game. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Great, so I have to nail a mafia every day or you will kill me? Fine, BC is mafia. Rolecheck confirmed it. In light of this, and Ace's alleged RC on Caller, would it be appropriate to double lynch today (Day 2)? In doing so, we catch either of them if they are lying, or else we kill two scum, which seems like a great result to me. + Show Spoiler + On April 21 2010 13:43 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Well I can't hate on you for getting analysis out there, since it's what everyone needs to be doing instead of posting useless garbage. So props. But some things you said about me simply are, well, factually incorrect or misguided. I already explained my inactivity in another post. Real life shit; I am a busy man. Here I am posting and making up for lost time though. I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that I'm contributing to the town. Look at all the players that aren't contributing anything. It sounds like your concerned that I'm contributing, but not contributing enough. That's fine, I'll try to be more direct in my posts. I never bothered posting any sort of town plan in this game, largely since this game is not about specific town plans - e.g. Bodyguard plans or Assassin plans - but largely about town activity and discussion, which is why i was trying to post helpful information and thoughts about general playing strategy that will best benefit the town. Additionally, why do I have to post aggressively to be town? I have never been a particularly aggressive player, except that one time in Mini Mafia I where the town lynched me and I was the medic and I got really mad (jerks). You say I was never suspicious of anybody..., right after a quote of my DT list of people I thought were suspicious. I'll add a couple more: Caller Abenson (strangely quiet) meeple - same as others RoL - based on my previous analysis Scaramanga - probably pretending to be useless anyway i ask people to continue the incog idea of player-beneath-you analysis. hopefully this will get some inactives out of the woodworks when they see their name in the thread. When I was going through Osmoses's posts, I noticed that too... Abenson hasn't really done anything since the beginning of the game.. pretty suspicious. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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On April 21 2010 13:54 DarthThienAn wrote: This is true, but we have two situations as I see it: 1) Ace is mafia and tricking us - we lynch Caller and see that he's lying, so he's just given himself up. It's still pretty early in the game, so this would be pretty stupid, a 1 for 1 trade cutting the mafia down to 6 with only 3 KP. 2) Ace is the DT and telling the truth and pro-town. We lynch Caller, he's red, and ... all is well. lol. and option three as I showed it! Both are red, and Ace is GF/Mafia earning trust. It would be an awesome ballsy move. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:58 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: and option three as I showed it! Both are red, and Ace is GF/Mafia earning trust. It would be an awesome ballsy move. Yeah I considered that, but it's way too ballsy. It's too early to do this kind of move IMO. It's just not beneficial to trade 1 for 1 for 1 (Town, Mafia, KP) and leave only 6 mafia left with 3 KP. And now that we have two alleged DTs, and hopefully medics to cover them, getting two mafia right now would put us in a great spot. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: You could be right, however he would be playing very anti-town then. The thing is if Ace is lying and just wants to kill Caller it would be stupid, he could argue behavior analysis and probably get him lynched. Sure this would get it done with less effort, however if hes wrong he sets us back two lynches, which would suck for us. In short, he could lie, but it wouldn't make sense unless he was trying to sac caller to gain town trust to ride it through the game to mislead us further. That move was done to caller by MrBabyHands in a previous mafia game. I guess that's possible, and that's the problem if caller flips red. Because everyone would probably trust Ace. I wonder if the gain in trust for Ace would be worth losing the KP though (if another mafia dies the kp goes to 3). | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 21 2010 13:57 DarthThienAn wrote: In light of this, and Ace's alleged RC on Caller, would it be appropriate to double lynch today (Day 2)? . We can't double lynch today. We can do it tomorrow if we get a majority vote for double lynch today though. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
But hey think through all the likely scenarios and motives for yourselves ^_^ | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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IntoTheWow
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About Ace: He started this little game on biding. The first thing I'm suspicious of is the way he distributed his fake money: + Show Spoiler + # Zona - $100 # CynanMachae - $100 # tree.hugger - $75 # d3_crescentia - $50 # KF91 - $100 # iNfuNdiBuLuM - $75 # RebirthOfLegend - $100 # BloodyC0bbler - $200 # Jugan - $30 # Scaramanga - $0 (get a job) # Bill Murray - $100 # Fishball - $85 # RaGe - $100 # Foolishness - $no # Scamp - $100 # Abenson - $90 # Caller - $175 # [NyC]HoBbes - $100 # meeple - $120 # Fulgrim - $70 # JadeFist - $100 # Roffles - $100 # krndandaman - $0 # Falcynn - $40 # nbtnbt5 - $60 # IntoTheWow - $100 # Incognito - $25 # love1another - $66 # AcrossFiveJulys - $50 # nAi.PrOtOsS - $0.50 # DarthThienAn - $60 # Radfield - $100 # TheLardyGooser - $80 # Osmoses - $2 # jpak - $21 # motbob - $100 # madnessman - $75 First, he gave BloodyC0bbler the most bidding power, even thought he has hardly participated so far. Point? Please don't say it's random. Then he says he gave Caller the most bidding power to make him fall for his trap. Makes sense with meeple riding 120$ and BC as well, but then again there's other suspicious people Foolishness no money? Did you know he was going to die? You could be an Assassin and then this game would make zero sense at all, since all it's doing is keeping you in the spotlish, either to be lynched or in Mafia eyes to take you down if they feel you are a threat. If you were a real detective, I don't think this helps too much, you are just instantly rallying people into what you want to do. You could very well make up whatever answer it fits you best as mafia. If somebody rolechecks anyone, you can make up whatever is the general idea of that person's role. Then again, with one detective down, it's hard to really know what you are up to. If somebody asks for a self-role check (like Jugan did) you can make up whatever you like, Townie would have a high % of nailing it. If you feel your plan might fall that way, you can just kill him during the night before revealing the role check and hence, knowing what the person's role was. I'm not sure why you are trying to pull this little game, it doesn't help the town at all in my opinion. At the same time I haven't played other Mafia games here, so I don't know if this is your general playstyle, or something you have done before. I will post more on other people soon, just want to stop some bandwagon that makes no sense. I suspect of Ace as much as I suspect of Caller. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING I WOULD DEEM UNLIKELY, WHICH IS HOW YOU GOT THAT SCUM NEMY TO SLIDE UNDER MY NOSE BY HAVING HIM VOTE FOR YOU IN MM1. I ain't falling for your games again. I am keeping an open mind. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On April 21 2010 14:06 IntoTheWow wrote: Ok, time for some wall of text: About Ace: He started this little game on biding. The first thing I'm suspicious of is the way he distributed his fake money: + Show Spoiler + # Zona - $100 # CynanMachae - $100 # tree.hugger - $75 # d3_crescentia - $50 # KF91 - $100 # iNfuNdiBuLuM - $75 # RebirthOfLegend - $100 # BloodyC0bbler - $200 # Jugan - $30 # Scaramanga - $0 (get a job) # Bill Murray - $100 # Fishball - $85 # RaGe - $100 # Foolishness - $no # Scamp - $100 # Abenson - $90 # Caller - $175 # [NyC]HoBbes - $100 # meeple - $120 # Fulgrim - $70 # JadeFist - $100 # Roffles - $100 # krndandaman - $0 # Falcynn - $40 # nbtnbt5 - $60 # IntoTheWow - $100 # Incognito - $25 # love1another - $66 # AcrossFiveJulys - $50 # nAi.PrOtOsS - $0.50 # DarthThienAn - $60 # Radfield - $100 # TheLardyGooser - $80 # Osmoses - $2 # jpak - $21 # motbob - $100 # madnessman - $75 First, he gave BloodyC0bbler the most bidding power, even thought he has hardly participated so far. Point? Please don't say it's random. Then he says he gave Caller the most bidding power to make him fall for his trap. Makes sense with meeple riding 120$ and BC as well, but then again there's other suspicious people Foolishness no money? Did you know he was going to die? You could be an Assassin and then this game would make zero sense at all, since all it's doing is keeping you in the spotlish, either to be lynched or in Mafia eyes to take you down if they feel you are a threat. If you were a real detective, I don't think this helps too much, you are just instantly rallying people into what you want to do. You could very well make up whatever answer it fits you best as mafia. If somebody rolechecks anyone, you can make up whatever is the general idea of that person's role. Then again, with one detective down, it's hard to really know what you are up to. If somebody asks for a self-role check (like Jugan did) you can make up whatever you like, Townie would have a high % of nailing it. If you feel your plan might fall that way, you can just kill him during the night before revealing the role check and hence, knowing what the person's role was. I'm not sure why you are trying to pull this little game, it doesn't help the town at all in my opinion. At the same time I haven't played other Mafia games here, so I don't know if this is your general playstyle, or something you have done before. I will post more on other people soon, just want to stop some bandwagon that makes no sense. I suspect of Ace as much as I suspect of Caller. Then I propose we lynch BC! He is mafia afterall. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
If Ace wants Caller dead for some reason, he rallies us today, we lynch him, and we know he was bullshitting, ergo, we want to lynch him. The problem is, the moment this is made public, the Mafia roleblocker can kick in, and we are down one Vigilante already. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I don't know why you even mention players like Foolishness and me "knowing he was going to die" - nice attempt at subtle scum info there. Doesn't work. Same with BC - I wasn't even paying him any mind at the moment. My sights were on Caller all game. For some one reading my posts you sure missed that big glaring sign. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 21 2010 14:09 IntoTheWow wrote: Some stuff I left out. If Ace wants Caller dead for some reason, he rallies us today, we lynch him, and we know he was bullshitting, ergo, we want to lynch him. The problem is, the moment this is made public, the Mafia roleblocker can kick in, and we are down one Vigilante already. How would the Mafia know who the Vigilante is? :/ | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I don't see the problem here. The roleblocker chooses a person to block for that night (assuming the person is a power role) and disallows that. The power of the roleblocker wouldn't have any effect in killing Ace the next day during a double lynch. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
What has the mafia based world come to? | ||
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Ace
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