TL Mafia XXII - Page 55

On April 21 2010 14:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Can we use the double lynch right now? I mean, if you are so sure of him, it does make sense to read on other people based on that (who argued in favor of Caller, who against) to double lynch.

On April 21 2010 14:44 meeple wrote:
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- His very few posts in the thread have just to say he supports BM's assasin plan, and the plan to lynch an inactive. Moreover, the feel of his posts give me a hint of mafia with no idea how to act green. Still needs more posting and information to confirm.

Voted for himself, then a fairly random vote on Falcynn... The self-vote gives me further suspicion that he's red and struggling with the role.

Abenson

- Lots of crap posting... saying alot and remaining active but not actually contributing very much at all
- He might be implicated if Caller really does turn up red, by this post:


And he prefaced this game by saying he's well known for being useless, which is somewhat of a cop-out so that he doesn't need to answer for what he says.

And Elemenope I'm still waiting for your trademark few but lengthy posts...

On April 21 2010 14:55 Ace wrote:
BC where is your vote? Don't worry about Rol and your post to discredit him. I've already got a solution to this madness. But first put your vote down.

On April 21 2010 14:52 Ace wrote:


nope dont even debate it. People will use that as an excuse to be confused and let Caller slide. Lynch him now, the BC/Rol situation will be resolved by Vigilantes tonight (because ALL of them should shoot either RoL or BC) and then we move on. The only 2 things that should be talked about now: voting for Caller or why you don't trust my rolecheck and who to rape between RoL/BC.

No need to bring up suspicions on other people or talk about a double lynch.

On April 21 2010 14:53 Ace wrote:
Also you need to vote now because only scum would want to wait to see if the wagon against Caller gets pushed before voting. Townies should make up their minds and realize it's either me or Caller situation. By NOT voting you well - appear scummy .

On April 21 2010 14:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Oh I just read your solution. here I will even quote it for you



Keep one simple fact here folks. He is advocating vigi's killing me and RoL to confirm us both. He however makes no such basis on himself. He is using a light move on killing a DT roleclaimer who can't be confirmed, while not applying it to himself.


I would however gladly die to flip RoL as red. My death would confirm/deny him and give an auto red at night. That is much simpler than killing him outright if he is a dt. Besides, it means mafia would have to kill him then.

On April 21 2010 15:06 Ace wrote:
so if I was an assassin and found out Caller was an Assassin I'd claim he was Mafia, get him lynched, he'd show up as an Assassin and I'd get myself shot by any other assassins remaining in the game? Brilliant.

And if Caller was the last Assassin besides myself I'd like, NOT just you know wait till tonight and shoot him to end the game myself?

Man scum just aren't as smart as they used to be. Then again most of you aren't anyway.

I would just like to point out that since Caller is now proven to be mafia and he tried to take me out near the start when he was under risk of being lynched, I am clearly not mafia. Although I am also proving your point that I only post to defend myself and I am semi-inactive. But until I find time to sift through all these posts and come up with a good arguement for why somone is mafia I don't have anything to post.

Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.

First, he gave BloodyC0bbler the most bidding power, even thought he has hardly participated so far. Point? Please don't say it's random.

Then he says he gave Caller the most bidding power to make him fall for his trap. Makes sense with meeple riding 120$ and BC as well, but then again there's other suspicious people Foolishness no money? Did you know he was going to die?

You could be an Assassin and then this game would make zero sense at all, since all it's doing is keeping you in the spotlish, either to be lynched or in Mafia eyes to take you down if they feel you are a threat.

If you were a real detective, I don't think this helps too much, you are just instantly rallying people into what you want to do.

You could very well make up whatever answer it fits you best as mafia. If somebody rolechecks anyone, you can make up whatever is the general idea of that person's role. Then again, with one detective down, it's hard to really know what you are up to. If somebody asks for a self-role check (like Jugan did) you can make up whatever you like, Townie would have a high % of nailing it. If you feel your plan might fall that way, you can just kill him during the night before revealing the role check and hence, knowing what the person's role was.

I'm not sure why you are trying to pull this little game, it doesn't help the town at all in my opinion. At the same time I haven't played other Mafia games here, so I don't know if this is your general playstyle, or something you have done before.

I will post more on other people soon, just want to stop some bandwagon that makes no sense. I suspect of Ace as much as I suspect of Caller.

##Vote: Caller

Caller and then Ace if Caller flips green

On April 21 2010 15:08 Ace wrote:
you know whats funny is the only thing BC had going to save his neck is that RoL waited till I said my RC to say he RC'd BC. Of course BC isn't exactly a shining beacon of Scum win so he opens his mouth and makes himself look even more scummy by trying to discredit the person who has nothing to do with his lynch. Amazing. All Vigis should pop you tonight even if RoL is lying.

On April 21 2010 15:14 Caller wrote:
This entire thread is lols.

I'm not even going to bother trying to defend myself here because it's patently obvious that I'm getting bandwagoned and nobody's listening to me.

Here's what you do need to know once you find out that I'm a townie.

A) Ace still has not accepted my bet with him to have nai.protoss lynched to determine my and possibly his affiliation. More importantly, nai.protoss has jumped out of nowhere to proceed to attack me, because



I think it should be fairly obvious that with an idiotic comment like that, once I flip town it should be apparent that nai.protoss is just a stupid townie. No mafia member would ever say something like that EVER. In fact, mafia would be sure to leave a "assuming Ace isn't bullshitting" remark. Someone like...



I'll let you figure out who that is.

But is Ace a DT? Quite likely. Did he check me? Quite likely. Is he playing rationally? No. It should be fairly obvious that he's trying to spite town here. Look at his attitude change. While it is true that I grossly misrepresented several random pieces of mafiascum terminology, it should also be apparent that the people I attacked were already suspect. RaGe has gone silent since Ace arrived with his high and mighty RC (the one that I personally asked for, twice, I might add).

B) I'm not the only one playing for the metagame here. I hope that when I die you look back on my posts that you notice that I was imitating a very certain someone who isn't in this game

C) IntotheWow is appearing to know too much. Look at this post.


Someone that wants to stop a "no sense" bandwagon, even though it's fairly obvious that he firstly joined one (RoL Day 1) and suspects Ace heavily, yet failed to mention the primary hilarious part, which was quite frankly that I was the one that asked for my own rolecheck. No mafia player ever would do something as risky as that. Why would I go out of my way to do that when I could have instead picked RaGe or meeple, people that were high on my suspect list? It's because it was patently obvious to me that Ace was going the "fuck y'all i'm a boss" strategy. It's an admirable strategy but clearly I either didn't anticipate I was miller or that Ace would be willing to go to such extremes

In other words, ITW is playing too intelligently for someone who's a newbie to TL mafia. Either he is a super mafia genius that will sweep town to victory, or he's scum.

D) BC is a liar. You were pissed at me in Ace's Mafia World because I had pardoned you (and guaranteed your death by mafia the next day) and as a result you were unable to tell us the 6 or so mafia that you pinned by Day 2. Don't give me that "I'm bad at behavior" bullshit. This man is scum.

E) I'm terrible at this game. Don't ever listen to my advice. Seriously. This game is meant to show you how bad I am at this game. Veteran =/= good.

By the same token, since I played just like a certain "veteran" player, you should get the implication.

Summary:
-Once I flip town, you know this means:
-Ace is innocent. Nai.Protoss is innocent.

-ITW and BC are scum. Meeple is also highly likely scum.
Motbob is also likely scum because of his complete uselessness and this:


-I'm bad

zizi-yo

Where he used statistics you discredited to prove his points
Your playing a style you completely disagree with.

Hell, of the players in this game. Caller, incog and zona should have jumped you the moment you claimed, as should have foolishness (but as hatter he tried to hide? or he did his regular strat of not posting till later in the game. Zona was just swapped out but at the time he was still in it.

On April 21 2010 14:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



Hi meeple. You just confirmed yourself red.

You have pointed the FoS at almost everyone, but hey, your trying to live. Thats not where the confirmation lies.

If you had noticed oh say, days ago. Incognito replaced Elemenope as a player. You have spent most of this game not really contributing, and pointing your finger everywhere. Your initial play this game came as logical, and founded. Quickly it however turned for the worse. You dropped to one liners very quickly. Pointed the FoS at many players. You then make a random med list, where two of the people on said list are dead. (seems slightly odd that people in the spotlight would die. Also a few of the names on there make very little sense to be protected).
You come back to jump on the kill caller wagon with the promise of more suspects to come.

Those suspects include such small amounts of information its odd. With the amount of crapstorm posts we have, you could have easily narrowed down more than 2 people in an hour.

Combine all this with the dead people who were suspicious of you. You have alooot to make up for. shape up.

So... we need some sort of consensus on how to vote (obviously)... I don't mind lynching an inactive, but I would prefer someone like Lardygooser or the like... At any rate I would enjoy feedback on why we should shouldn't do it.

On April 21 2010 15:20 meeple wrote:


Yearghh... I'm so tired of being picked apart... but I have been playing sloppily so I suppose I deserve it.

Alright..Time to go through my posts and do some retrospective:

Rage - He posted very carefully... something that I would expect from a smart mafia. My suspicion of him has greatly lessened of late.

TheLardyGooser -


And he was red...

Where are all the other people that I pointed the finger at? Please show me my posts because I can't see to find them.

The two listed in my latest post? I gave reasons for why I suspected them in the post. I never said that we should lynch them now... in fact if anything it was just a starting point for later analysis, and of course we couldn't learn anything from lynching them... that's why I voted to lynch Caller... He gives us valuable information. A FoS doesn't mean intent to lynch... I make it rather clear that the ideas are still being formulated.

My medic list wasn't random... and I defended it to Incog already... if anything the fact that I was right about two of the people on there should exonerate me somewhat. If you think I have the balls to kill off two of the people on my list then I appreciate it, but yeah I'm much too safe a player for that.

There are many more suspects of course but I focussed on ones that previously had perhaps been overlooked. I'm not just going to echo sentiments that other people have said.

The amount that you've grossly exaggerated my failings here are outstanding... Where are the "many" people that I accused? Why is my medic list random, when I explained pretty thoroughly how I went about making it? My slip-up with forgetting that elemenope was replaced by incog is understandable in a game with 38 people in it.

On April 21 2010 15:18 Ace wrote:
Oh you didn't notice I was TRYING TO DIE NIGHT 1? Hey not my fault you guys left me alive. Caller didn't even use statistics - lol. Yo seriously are you dudes reading from the same Scum bible because that shit sucks.

The difference between me and you is that when I do things they end up in rape (like what Caller is about to get). When you do it you get posts like this which make 0 sense: