TL Mafia XX

On March 10 2010 06:44 Incognito wrote:


No, the bus driver is not notified.

If a bus driver switches A, who is being killed, and B, who is being medic protected, then yes, A won't die. But B will.

That is correct, B will now have a bomb. I'm not sure if the mad hatter is notified. I'll get back to you on that.

All actions happen at the same time. So the switch still happens. B dies instead of A.

On March 10 2010 07:27 Versatile wrote:



i would think that the only thing that switches are the people, and that the actions are stationary.

IE) person A is protected. person B is hit.
bus driver hits the switch.
now person A is hit, and person B is protected.

i could be wrong though, the mod(s) can clarify.

On March 11 2010 03:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
there is most likely only 1 of each blue role, i would keep that in mind. 2 meds could perma protect someone in this game, so most likely only one. Dt's have unlimited rc's so most likely only 1. Hatter has 2 kp (with bombs) so most likely is only one hatter, or 1-2 vigi's as having both roles would have too high a KP (would be more than the mafia in one night). Possibly 1 vet, millers 1-2.

On March 11 2010 03:36 Vivi57 wrote:
ok, with this format the detective should roleclaim and get elected as mayor. The second dt can check him on n1 to make sure he's legit. Yes, this leaves some possibility of gf getting mayor as a dt, but we should be able to see through fake role checks soon enough.

With a dt as mayor, we can amass a large group of confirmed townies and use that to win. Ignore anything ace says about lynching all claimers, this move is too powerful to ignore.

On March 11 2010 04:50 citi.zen wrote:


I'o'no man, U surez ur tail be dift AFTa we piks da' pigz??!?

On March 11 2010 05:52 Abenson wrote:
The game has started, right?
When will we get our Day1 post?

On March 11 2010 09:45 Incognito wrote:



I'm surprised you say this. Pardoner is generally considered the more powerful office for mafia. Three votes is big, but a pardon can be more devastating if used near the end of the game on a double lynch day when both top candidates are mafia. The mayor can be held accountable for his 3 votes, and they can be tracked throughout the game. The pardoner however, will most likely use his abilities at one critical moment, which will come as a surprise to the town. We can't let that happen.

On March 11 2010 12:57 Fulgrim wrote:


I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone.

On March 11 2010 13:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


It appears that he is hoping to get into office based on "hey im not green"

On March 12 2010 01:04 citi.zen wrote:

I would probably vote for bill before you. However, there are two blue claims, so I must vote for one of those. However misguided their actions are to date.

On March 12 2010 01:43 citi.zen wrote:

You're right: anyone can relo-claim. Would you (or anyone else) like to step up?

On March 12 2010 02:21 L wrote:
Not really.

It seems pretty obvious that a number of the people running probably aren't blue; I didn't tell people not to run if they're green prior to after pretty much all of the competitive candidates already threw their hat in the ring; the question is whether or not they think they should push for the role after thinking about the game format. This game format is interesting because despite the fact that the offices can be confirmed, they can also be easily disposed of because of the bodyguard issues. If cobbler's a DT, I think its best for him to push. If Incog is green, I think its better for him to just step out of the race. If bill murray.. well no one cares there. If one of us are mafia, we're getting elected; Period. The question would be which of the innocents is getting in? Its also possible that no mafia get in if they decide to simply not make a run for office, which happens too.

The alternative position, again, is that someone who's green can run for, say, pardoner, then have himself killed in order to get an ordered roleclaim started. I find it unlikely that anyone besides me would have the balls to do this because: 1) Ver's not in the game. 2) Showtime's not in the game 3) Judge is not in the game.

The key point, however, is that medics can prevent a lot of mafia kp from getting through; If the medic protects the bgs under attack, it would take 2 full turns to break through the bodyguards, then a doublestack to kill the office member in play.

That however, relies on the ability of us to focus our only medic on the BGs, which means that roleclaimed non-office blues present us with protection problems; Unless we have a bus claim to a confirmed office member, we can't really protect both extra and intra office blues. This is why I didn't want people explicitly claiming, and that's why it didn't matter if I said people shouldn't run as green: the candidacies were already in and no one had claimed at that point, so we were ironclad.

If you guys think that my refusal to tell you what role I am is presents some sort of odd scumtell; you're retarded. You guys simply haven't been thinking about how to win. There's more to mafia than not have town members die; you need to develop a plan forward with the aim of winning otherwise you lose. This game has no clues, it has no list checks, it has very little kp on both teams. Its going to last for quite a while, so think ahead to days 3-4. Unlike in previous games wherein the game is basically over by then, that's simply not the case here. I personally have a plan that's almost assured to have us win. Once elected, I want a DT check thrown at me with a PM once they know my role. At that point, it should be pretty obvious what I'm trying to do from the DT's perspective and the town will have a relatively safe way to roleclaim.

That said, there's a potential mafia bus driver problem, but I can get around that if I'm elected by using our bus and a few pms. I'll explain further during the night, and I'll need a few people to trust me, but if everything works out the game's pretty much won for town.

On March 12 2010 04:10 L wrote:
Its amazing how you can write something and convey only a complete lack of reading comprehension.

On March 12 2010 04:24 L wrote:

Once again, you write something and convey a complete lack of reading comprehension.

You sir, are impressive.

On March 12 2010 11:29 johnnyspazz wrote:

i
i'm a little confused here

On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote:

Did you read what I wrote about being green? I would suggest that you check the part involving someone killing themselves with the addendum that says "the only player in this game who's ballsy enough to do that is L".

Am I L?

Oh, looks like I am.

Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan.

2+2.

On March 13 2010 09:47 L wrote:
You're also claiming at once that you're both 1) Worthy of being medic protected and 2) Green. The two do not add up.

I could push this line of reasoning, but why?

Once again, I'm not green. Why do you keep saying that?

On March 13 2010 12:03 L wrote:

Well, doesn't really matter. Both you and JeeJee should probably be our next 2 lynch targets.

If you believed me, and thought i was the driver, you'd want me sitting protected as pardoner. Incog now has the most BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FISHY VOTE TRAIN that I've ever seen.

Bunch of inactives, then a vote swing. Wow.

On March 13 2010 12:42 citi.zen wrote:

How can. You openly say you "trust incognito" at this point in the game? Even he will tell you right now it's based on... nothing. Maybe faith. I didn't have you picked as the gullible kind.

On March 13 2010 12:49 citi.zen wrote:
Enogh to start pm-ing people campaigning for him. Say you are right and L is red. Would it make sense to contact unproven people to convince them of that? What are the chances of reaching out to another red? Why does that not concern you? Lol - oopsie...

I mean "yes please" spell out the context.