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On March 18 2010 10:21 Incognito wrote:
You highly doubt I know who the mafia are? Hmm...maybe that's because I'm on the wrong track. Maybe I should vote for you/nemY/tree.hugger/Iaaan. Now am I on the right track?
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On March 18 2010 09:36 Foolishness wrote:
What the hell? Where did I say Incog should get medic protection? I said he shouldn't get medic protection and the DTs should.
I just laid out a near worst possibly situation, in which the town still looks good to win. You just said that's all bullshit. GUESS WHAT? YOURE RIGHT! THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST! CONGRATS! YOUR EGO CAN NOW GLOAT AS YOU MASTURBATE TO HOW AWESOME YOU ARE!
Even if Incog was the mafia bus driver, I highly doubt he knows who the mafia are, and I doubt any of the mafia are going to claim to him.
On March 18 2010 09:25 L wrote:
Sorry, but that's bullshit.
1) Mafia wouldn't know who the second DT is.
2) Mafia wouldn't know who the medics are.
3) Mafia wouldn't know who my bombs are on.
Etc.
Taking a single turn to net TWO MEDIC KILLS is not a small thing. Nor is following that up with TWO DT KILLS. the alternative is that mafia guess who the DT and medics are and channel a hit per night using the driver.
2 DTs dead with unknown medics vs a full list of blues + medics dead + DTs dead shortly thereafter.
You're essentially saying that a single extra day is worth losing all our blues.
WRONG.
If Incog is pardoner, he might have moved for the double lynch to use the pardoner ability and stop both.
I'm not saying we need to kill Incog; he's probably legit. He just isn't getting medic protection over DTs. Sorry.
On March 18 2010 09:14 Foolishness wrote:
Yes, I can see your concern with this. But if he's mafia, the mafia loses more than the town does. Okay, say Incog is mafia and has access to all this information. He doesn't have any drives anymore. Mafia has to waste hits to kill the medics BEFORE they can get the DTs. That's two (or one I guess in worst case scenario such as they stack hits) more checks to confirm innocents or find the mafia before the DTs actually die.
Plus, who's to say that Incog knows the medics? I would assume BC does at this point, but he doesn't have to share that. If BC has the medic coordinated Incog's knowledge is next to useless. The only thing Incog can provide is another vote for mafia.
And hey, there have been two confirmed switches so far. If Incog is mafia bus driver, we got another bus driver to utilize, who probably has at least one more switch. Not to mention you have bombs. There's probably a vigilante/veteran around.
And you seem to have misunderstood, I did not say I advocate protecting incog over BC. No way. It's going to be the third night. If mafia have to stack hits on the third night that's a good sign for the town.
Not to mention there's already a clear idea on who the mafia are based on inactivity/useless posting. Yeah that probably includes me to an extent. But there are also quite a few people who we can safely rule out as being mafia because of their activity (at least in my opinion). Even if it comes down to the fact that we don't have DTs, it's not going to be game over right away. It's only the third day: we have double lynches, we have targets, all the blues are alive minus the bodyguards, and one mafia is already dead.
You make the situation seem really grim if Incog is mafia bus driver. It isn't.
On March 18 2010 09:02 L wrote:
Why would he waste 2 shunts? To gain information regarding the medics, dts, and such. Who am I having protected tonight? Who am I bussing? If he is in contact with mafia they'll know and they can act accordingly.
Once our medics are killed and our drivers are out of drivin' juice, both our DTs will die shortly thereafter. Once that happens, our circle stops growing and the 'clock' essentially stops. If we've checked a GF, we're in even more of a pinch.
Either way, you aren't stupid. You knew this. It was explicitly stated by someone else earlier.
Why would you advocate protecting incog over a fucking CONFIRMED DT if incog is essentially a town leaning green who can't be confirmed at this point? That's not to hate on him; he's played well and if he's town aligned high five to him. Its just that we have more important treasures to safeguard from red hands.
On March 18 2010 08:26 Foolishness wrote:
Pretty sure Incog proved his two bus shunts in his post where he explained everything. At the very least he proved he used one. If he's mafia, why would he waste away using his drives all for the benefit of the town? If he's mafia, the only useful thing he can do now is vote (and possibly cause town chaos but that's very unlikely).
BM, if nothing you say will convince the town that you're green than there's definitely nothing I can say that will convince them either
At the very least, we have a coordinated town with two DT checks coming up (assuming they don't die) and a mad hatter with hopefully smart bombs placed (and who's hopefully not a GF). Even if BM turns up green there shouldn't be a problem wrapping things up in subsequent days. Although I'm sure going to have a field day defending myself if BM turns up red.
On March 18 2010 06:44 L wrote:
There's no reason to protect incog at this point. There's no way to confirm him and his two bus shunts are used. He's the equivalent of a green, kinda. 100% of medic protection should be on BC unless we set up a driver. If I die, whatever, that speeds up our rape train a day.
Being frustrated isn't a reason to de-rail a town rape train. If you feel like you have nothing to do, go look at your number 1-3 suspects and go check how they act in prior games, then report your findings here.
There's no reason to protect incog at this point. There's no way to confirm him and his two bus shunts are used. He's the equivalent of a green, kinda. 100% of medic protection should be on BC unless we set up a driver. If I die, whatever, that speeds up our rape train a day.
Being frustrated isn't a reason to de-rail a town rape train. If you feel like you have nothing to do, go look at your number 1-3 suspects and go check how they act in prior games, then report your findings here.
Pretty sure Incog proved his two bus shunts in his post where he explained everything. At the very least he proved he used one. If he's mafia, why would he waste away using his drives all for the benefit of the town? If he's mafia, the only useful thing he can do now is vote (and possibly cause town chaos but that's very unlikely).
BM, if nothing you say will convince the town that you're green than there's definitely nothing I can say that will convince them either
At the very least, we have a coordinated town with two DT checks coming up (assuming they don't die) and a mad hatter with hopefully smart bombs placed (and who's hopefully not a GF). Even if BM turns up green there shouldn't be a problem wrapping things up in subsequent days. Although I'm sure going to have a field day defending myself if BM turns up red.
Why would he waste 2 shunts? To gain information regarding the medics, dts, and such. Who am I having protected tonight? Who am I bussing? If he is in contact with mafia they'll know and they can act accordingly.
Once our medics are killed and our drivers are out of drivin' juice, both our DTs will die shortly thereafter. Once that happens, our circle stops growing and the 'clock' essentially stops. If we've checked a GF, we're in even more of a pinch.
Either way, you aren't stupid. You knew this. It was explicitly stated by someone else earlier.
Why would you advocate protecting incog over a fucking CONFIRMED DT if incog is essentially a town leaning green who can't be confirmed at this point? That's not to hate on him; he's played well and if he's town aligned high five to him. Its just that we have more important treasures to safeguard from red hands.
Yes, I can see your concern with this. But if he's mafia, the mafia loses more than the town does. Okay, say Incog is mafia and has access to all this information. He doesn't have any drives anymore. Mafia has to waste hits to kill the medics BEFORE they can get the DTs. That's two (or one I guess in worst case scenario such as they stack hits) more checks to confirm innocents or find the mafia before the DTs actually die.
Plus, who's to say that Incog knows the medics? I would assume BC does at this point, but he doesn't have to share that. If BC has the medic coordinated Incog's knowledge is next to useless. The only thing Incog can provide is another vote for mafia.
And hey, there have been two confirmed switches so far. If Incog is mafia bus driver, we got another bus driver to utilize, who probably has at least one more switch. Not to mention you have bombs. There's probably a vigilante/veteran around.
And you seem to have misunderstood, I did not say I advocate protecting incog over BC. No way. It's going to be the third night. If mafia have to stack hits on the third night that's a good sign for the town.
Not to mention there's already a clear idea on who the mafia are based on inactivity/useless posting. Yeah that probably includes me to an extent. But there are also quite a few people who we can safely rule out as being mafia because of their activity (at least in my opinion). Even if it comes down to the fact that we don't have DTs, it's not going to be game over right away. It's only the third day: we have double lynches, we have targets, all the blues are alive minus the bodyguards, and one mafia is already dead.
You make the situation seem really grim if Incog is mafia bus driver. It isn't.
Sorry, but that's bullshit.
1) Mafia wouldn't know who the second DT is.
2) Mafia wouldn't know who the medics are.
3) Mafia wouldn't know who my bombs are on.
Etc.
Taking a single turn to net TWO MEDIC KILLS is not a small thing. Nor is following that up with TWO DT KILLS. the alternative is that mafia guess who the DT and medics are and channel a hit per night using the driver.
2 DTs dead with unknown medics vs a full list of blues + medics dead + DTs dead shortly thereafter.
You're essentially saying that a single extra day is worth losing all our blues.
WRONG.
If Incog is pardoner, he might have moved for the double lynch to use the pardoner ability and stop both.
I'm not saying we need to kill Incog; he's probably legit. He just isn't getting medic protection over DTs. Sorry.
What the hell? Where did I say Incog should get medic protection? I said he shouldn't get medic protection and the DTs should.
I just laid out a near worst possibly situation, in which the town still looks good to win. You just said that's all bullshit. GUESS WHAT? YOURE RIGHT! THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST! CONGRATS! YOUR EGO CAN NOW GLOAT AS YOU MASTURBATE TO HOW AWESOME YOU ARE!
Even if Incog was the mafia bus driver, I highly doubt he knows who the mafia are, and I doubt any of the mafia are going to claim to him.
You highly doubt I know who the mafia are? Hmm...maybe that's because I'm on the wrong track. Maybe I should vote for you/nemY/tree.hugger/Iaaan. Now am I on the right track?
You voted for Bill Murray first. Don't talk.
