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Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 17 2010 17:27 GMT
#1201
someone wanna explain the push for the dbl lynch?

oh grand town leaders, with brains the size of peas....ermm, eggplants, uhhh, cantaloupes...yeah.... who are the two suspects you hope to lynch with a dbl lynch? hmmmmmm?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 17:29 GMT
#1202
Well, I voted for double lynch, and a lot of people must have felt like it was a good idea and followed me
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 17 2010 17:29 GMT
#1203
probably you and foolishness
jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 17 2010 17:29 GMT
#1204
On March 18 2010 02:27 Versatile wrote:
someone wanna explain the push for the dbl lynch?

oh grand town leaders, with brains the size of peas....ermm, eggplants, uhhh, cantaloupes...yeah.... who are the two suspects you hope to lynch with a dbl lynch? hmmmmmm?


Before answering this question, who are your top suspects? Don't you think that given that we get 2 DT checks tonight and have a bunch of fishy inactives we'll find someone to lynch? Did you run out of suspects to lynch now that you can't attack BC anymore?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 17:31 GMT
#1205
On March 18 2010 02:29 johnnyspazz wrote:
probably you and foolishness
jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green


THANK YOU.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 17:32 GMT
#1206
Things you all didn't realize. The lynch on me was a ploy. It was designed solely to see who would vote for me.

Versatile, Fishball, Citi.zen... you have all been caught.

Explain yourselves.



lol jk
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 17:37 GMT
#1207
On March 18 2010 02:29 johnnyspazz wrote:
probably you and foolishness
jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green



I hope it's not either of them... I feel like Incognito is pushing for the lynching of townies. XeliN, Foolishness, Versatile, myself... all feel like greens to me, and the knowledge that I am green, that zona was green, fulgrim, cynanmachae being green, and malongo being red.... oh, yeah, and jeejee being green.... that's all the information I have.

I have to follow my gut on people, and I guess I have to trust BC and Incognito because the likelihood of them both being mafia is very low, and if there really is a 2nd DT it makes the likelihood pretty much 0. That is why I feel like L is probably mafia, that and the fact that he wrote off Malongo and used it to make him look blue. He is the mafia Godfather in my opinion, as I don't believe the mafia didn't have a substantial candidate. The thing is, with my having to trust BC and Incognito, it makes no sense to me as to why they want to lynch me. Incognito even said he thought I was red? WTF? lol. It's crazy talk from my eyes.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 17:38 GMT
#1208
31 more hours before you all want me to flip green
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 17 2010 17:56 GMT
#1209
On March 18 2010 02:29 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2010 02:27 Versatile wrote:
someone wanna explain the push for the dbl lynch?

oh grand town leaders, with brains the size of peas....ermm, eggplants, uhhh, cantaloupes...yeah.... who are the two suspects you hope to lynch with a dbl lynch? hmmmmmm?


Before answering this question, who are your top suspects? Don't you think that given that we get 2 DT checks tonight and have a bunch of fishy inactives we'll find someone to lynch? Did you run out of suspects to lynch now that you can't attack BC anymore?


will you stop being an idiot for two seconds?

listen. any decent player with half a mind would seriously question BC and how he's decided to play this game. you might not like my methods, but the intent is there.

BC is an invincible DT and has played this whole thing scared. he's a freaking invincible DT! do you know what the means? he can take risks. he can act more freely. he could have sown this thing up so long ago it's ridiculous. he played vague, he was uncooperative, and he did not lead the town in the thread. i cannot believe you're surprised at how much i questioned him. a supposed DT mayor who has done nothing to prove it to the town out in public? gtfo. i don't trust all willy nilly. that's how you get screwed, and he didn't prove shyt in the thread.

secondly, you're exceedingly narrow-minded for not understand why i have seriously questioned BC. you guys have played this entire thing behind the scenes. that's fine. that was your strategy. however, when you come in the thread and come at me because i'm not on the same page as you, please realize you're being ridiculous. it's like, the equation is (2+4) * (5+6) in the thread so here i am thinking the answer is 66, but there's another part of the equation in PMs that says divide by 2, and i'm supposed to know the real answer is 33? well, dumbass, i don't get where you're coming from because i don't have the all the information you do. so don't expect me to magically come to same conclusions as you. and no, i'm not going to sit back and just trust you know what you're doing because i'm not a sheep.


and as a general comment, i don't know how many times this can be said: playing the game in PMs ruins it in so many ways. sure, it's useful in moderation. but seriously. take a look at this thread. this game has been incredibly slow. when information is shared with the town the game is more exciting and more fun for everyone involved. it also gives the mafia a fairer chance, especially in a game that is this much towny favored. it's not about the cool kids table. it's about making this enjoyable for everyone involved, and giving everyone the chance to get better at it.

seriously, if you keep writing off some players as stupid or worthless, and don't bother to try to help them learn, the quality of these games will never improve. i've been here for three games and it's the same idiots being tricked by the same idiots and leading the town down the road to hell regardless of what anyone's role is in any given game.

oh, and i guess i'll take this moment to sincerely apologize to anyone whose feelings i may have hurt. it's just a game. i attack people's posts and logic because that's what you do in this game. i don't care who's name is attached to the post, so don't take my jabs and jokes seriously, it's all in good fun.

now i'm going to go back to trying to find a way out of this game that doesn't get me banned.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 17 2010 17:57 GMT
#1210
On March 18 2010 02:29 johnnyspazz wrote:
probably you and foolishness
jk but i think the fact that BM's first lynch would've been a red makes him probably green


that would be welcomed, lol.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 17 2010 18:00 GMT
#1211
ps: my top suspect is me, myself, i. and also, this versatile character who also goes by verse, vers, and versa-million. let's get a 7-way lynch going.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 17 2010 18:06 GMT
#1212
BM if you PM me one more fcukin' time, i swuurtagawd i will come through this cpu and chop your balls off.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2010 18:12 GMT
#1213
well, you said you didn't want to be a sheep, but your vote cries "Baaaaaaaa"
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 17 2010 18:19 GMT
#1214
holy shit versatile, youre like mini-ace
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
March 17 2010 18:20 GMT
#1215
On March 18 2010 03:12 Bill Murray wrote:
well, you said you didn't want to be a sheep, but your vote cries "Baaaaaaaa"

also im pretty sure he clearly stated he is voting for you because he dislikes your posts
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 17 2010 18:35 GMT
#1216
On March 18 2010 02:56 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2010 02:29 Incognito wrote:
On March 18 2010 02:27 Versatile wrote:
someone wanna explain the push for the dbl lynch?

oh grand town leaders, with brains the size of peas....ermm, eggplants, uhhh, cantaloupes...yeah.... who are the two suspects you hope to lynch with a dbl lynch? hmmmmmm?


Before answering this question, who are your top suspects? Don't you think that given that we get 2 DT checks tonight and have a bunch of fishy inactives we'll find someone to lynch? Did you run out of suspects to lynch now that you can't attack BC anymore?


will you stop being an idiot for two seconds?

listen. any decent player with half a mind would seriously question BC and how he's decided to play this game. you might not like my methods, but the intent is there.

BC is an invincible DT and has played this whole thing scared. he's a freaking invincible DT! do you know what the means? he can take risks. he can act more freely. he could have sown this thing up so long ago it's ridiculous. he played vague, he was uncooperative, and he did not lead the town in the thread. i cannot believe you're surprised at how much i questioned him. a supposed DT mayor who has done nothing to prove it to the town out in public? gtfo. i don't trust all willy nilly. that's how you get screwed, and he didn't prove shyt in the thread.

secondly, you're exceedingly narrow-minded for not understand why i have seriously questioned BC. you guys have played this entire thing behind the scenes. that's fine. that was your strategy. however, when you come in the thread and come at me because i'm not on the same page as you, please realize you're being ridiculous. it's like, the equation is (2+4) * (5+6) in the thread so here i am thinking the answer is 66, but there's another part of the equation in PMs that says divide by 2, and i'm supposed to know the real answer is 33? well, dumbass, i don't get where you're coming from because i don't have the all the information you do. so don't expect me to magically come to same conclusions as you. and no, i'm not going to sit back and just trust you know what you're doing because i'm not a sheep.


and as a general comment, i don't know how many times this can be said: playing the game in PMs ruins it in so many ways. sure, it's useful in moderation. but seriously. take a look at this thread. this game has been incredibly slow. when information is shared with the town the game is more exciting and more fun for everyone involved. it also gives the mafia a fairer chance, especially in a game that is this much towny favored. it's not about the cool kids table. it's about making this enjoyable for everyone involved, and giving everyone the chance to get better at it.

seriously, if you keep writing off some players as stupid or worthless, and don't bother to try to help them learn, the quality of these games will never improve. i've been here for three games and it's the same idiots being tricked by the same idiots and leading the town down the road to hell regardless of what anyone's role is in any given game.

oh, and i guess i'll take this moment to sincerely apologize to anyone whose feelings i may have hurt. it's just a game. i attack people's posts and logic because that's what you do in this game. i don't care who's name is attached to the post, so don't take my jabs and jokes seriously, it's all in good fun.

now i'm going to go back to trying to find a way out of this game that doesn't get me banned.


I'm not attacking you for attacking BC viciously. Yes, attacking BC was justified. I even doubted him at once. But you have ONLY attacked BC. You don't offer any alternatives. And I just asked you who your top suspects are, and you give...nothing. Don't expect me to just hand you free information.

Both Zona and I have stated plenty of times how the town can help. But all these same people keep doing the same things. Popping up just to defend themselves insufficiently, then disappear. Or not, in the case of Bill Murray. Its not our fault if people refuse to take the advice.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 17 2010 18:50 GMT
#1217
On March 18 2010 02:04 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2010 00:48 Bill Murray wrote:
On March 16 2010 11:18 Zona wrote:
Also, I want everyone to keep this in mind when analyzing how people interacted with Malongo.

Since he was inactive, he was an ideal person for the mafia to sacrifice to burnish their own townie credentials.


On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote:
So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things:

A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random.

B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly.

C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/

D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive.

E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble.

8. johnnyspazz
10. sidesprang
17. d3_crescentia
18. L
21. Foolishness
25. BloodyC0bbler

So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots.
Malongo is Running For Officials
My platform is based on:


A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town.

B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup.

C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly.

D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4.

Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways


On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote:
Oh hey, good of you to join the party.

Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?

Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS.


Malongo admits he won't be getting any votes. If he knew he wasn't going to be getting any votes, and was admitting that there could be 2 mafia candidates out of 4, I have to believe that the real reason he was running was to hide the candidacy of the Godfather, and clear their name. It would be easy to do this through sacrificing himself, which he says in his post that he doesn't mind doing. He is an old veteran, and a lot of veterans have learned that they can get more out of sacrificing theirself with a cool play than staying alive and being wasteful. I feel like this is what he was doing. In this format, he can just say that there's simply no way that the mafia will run 2 candidates. I'm fairly certain he has even said this.

On March 12 2010 09:39 l10f wrote:
On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote:

"I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. "... "My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver. "


I also think L is town.


Two people trying to make it look as if they have reason to support someone who has had the only red voting for them. They are hopping on the bandwagon blindly... pretty scummy behavior.

IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THEIR VOTING PATTERN
Neither one of them voted to lynch Malongo AT ANY TIME.

One of them voted for Abenson, and one of them voted for ~OpZ~.


On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote:
Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on?


On March 17 2010 20:48 l10f wrote:
I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi).



Also, how did he know that l10f was going to respond? It's like they have been in on it together. Both of these posts above have been back to back posts, and I feel like they are incriminating even if they do not appear to be so on the outside. I feel as if these two are acting way too buddy-buddy with one another to merit their being green. I feel like they are aligned together on a red team. MadnessMan was horror stricken whenever L didn't get pardoner. Both voted for L with Malongo.


The reason they are more suspicious is in the last paragraph, here.


lol wat. I call l10f out on being too quiet, he responds, and all of a sudden I''M mafia?! Bill, I don't see why you keep flinging your terribly flawed logic onto me. IF I were mafia, working with l10f, I would not even mention his name. I would completely refrain from drawing ANY attention to him, especially since he's pretty much flown under the radar, and nobody has heavily criticized his silence. And what makes you think I knew that l10f was going to respond?! I didn't.

On March 18 2010 02:56 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2010 02:29 Incognito wrote:
On March 18 2010 02:27 Versatile wrote:
someone wanna explain the push for the dbl lynch?

oh grand town leaders, with brains the size of peas....ermm, eggplants, uhhh, cantaloupes...yeah.... who are the two suspects you hope to lynch with a dbl lynch? hmmmmmm?


Before answering this question, who are your top suspects? Don't you think that given that we get 2 DT checks tonight and have a bunch of fishy inactives we'll find someone to lynch? Did you run out of suspects to lynch now that you can't attack BC anymore?


will you stop being an idiot for two seconds?

listen. any decent player with half a mind would seriously question BC and how he's decided to play this game. you might not like my methods, but the intent is there.

BC is an invincible DT and has played this whole thing scared. he's a freaking invincible DT! do you know what the means? he can take risks. he can act more freely. he could have sown this thing up so long ago it's ridiculous. he played vague, he was uncooperative, and he did not lead the town in the thread. i cannot believe you're surprised at how much i questioned him. a supposed DT mayor who has done nothing to prove it to the town out in public? gtfo. i don't trust all willy nilly. that's how you get screwed, and he didn't prove shyt in the thread.

secondly, you're exceedingly narrow-minded for not understand why i have seriously questioned BC. you guys have played this entire thing behind the scenes. that's fine. that was your strategy. however, when you come in the thread and come at me because i'm not on the same page as you, please realize you're being ridiculous. it's like, the equation is (2+4) * (5+6) in the thread so here i am thinking the answer is 66, but there's another part of the equation in PMs that says divide by 2, and i'm supposed to know the real answer is 33? well, dumbass, i don't get where you're coming from because i don't have the all the information you do. so don't expect me to magically come to same conclusions as you. and no, i'm not going to sit back and just trust you know what you're doing because i'm not a sheep.


and as a general comment, i don't know how many times this can be said: playing the game in PMs ruins it in so many ways. sure, it's useful in moderation. but seriously. take a look at this thread. this game has been incredibly slow. when information is shared with the town the game is more exciting and more fun for everyone involved. it also gives the mafia a fairer chance, especially in a game that is this much towny favored. it's not about the cool kids table. it's about making this enjoyable for everyone involved, and giving everyone the chance to get better at it.

seriously, if you keep writing off some players as stupid or worthless, and don't bother to try to help them learn, the quality of these games will never improve. i've been here for three games and it's the same idiots being tricked by the same idiots and leading the town down the road to hell regardless of what anyone's role is in any given game.

oh, and i guess i'll take this moment to sincerely apologize to anyone whose feelings i may have hurt. it's just a game. i attack people's posts and logic because that's what you do in this game. i don't care who's name is attached to the post, so don't take my jabs and jokes seriously, it's all in good fun.

now i'm going to go back to trying to find a way out of this game that doesn't get me banned.


I understand why you are extremely frustrated. Last game, I felt bored and out-of-the-loop, because even though there was a LOT of activity in the thread, it seemed like the "town circle" kept a lot of information to themselves, and it ended up to the point that my activity dwindled down to me becoming reaally inactive and didn't put in much effort into my posts, because no one seemed to listen anyways. As a townie again this game, I'm striving to stay focused and active. I DO think there's a worth in us posting publicly in the thread, even if our officials are hiding behind the scenes. Why? Because even though it's really boring that the thread is crawling along at the pace of a snail, it is this that makes it difficult for mafia to slip through the cracks. Also, in this game, every post can be considered, and nothing readily dismissed.

I do agree with you though that BC should have been more forthcoming with information earlier in the game, ESPECIALLY as a protected DT. But it seems that he has pretty much chosen to play this game as a figurehead of sorts, with Incognito as the spokesperson.

With all that said though, I don't think we should dismiss you from being mafia just because you write an angry post. While I am understanding of your frustration, it's posts like these:

On March 16 2010 10:31 Versatile wrote:
ummm, no @ BM.

i agree with whoever said malongo being red was luck. he wasn't even playing.

as for our next lynch target: town, if you don't recognize that someone between BC, L and incog is mafia, i will once again have to refer to the collective as a bunch of dingbats.

clearly, something is not adding up. at least one of them is mafia. and if we lynch one of them, we're guaranteed a red popping up.

my suggestion would be BC. and if incog threatens to pardon, we should kill incog first.


...that makes you as bad as BC and the rest of them in my eyes. Sure, it was good to push BC for answers, especially when we have all three of BC, Incog, and L claiming blue. But you purely advocate a "hit and miss" strategy, which could have been very detrimental to the town if we chose wrongly. I think that BC should have been pushed to prove himself and be more of a leader to the town, but you do so in a rather ridiculous fashion. "Let's chop off their heads one by one and keep going until one flips red! =D!" Why are you so surprised that people are suspicious of you as a result? You honestly can't blame them. You were so certain that one of BC, Incognito, and L are mafia. Sure, the odds may be high. But can we hear more concrete arguments from you? Can you respond to the quoted post below?

On March 18 2010 01:59 citi.zen wrote:
OK. I’ve sat down carefully going through all possibilities with respect to L, BC and Incognito. Having done that, I am now reasonably reassured we're in good shape and can trust BC, at the very least. If BC and the "other DT" live through another night, Incognito looks pretty legitimate as well.

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BC, L, Incognito possibilities:

1. All are town. Great stuff.

2. All are red. Highly unlikely. The 2nd DT story must be true, otherwise it’s both unnecessary and very risky (remember, in this scenario we’re assuming BC is red, so that would make 2 “fake” DTs, which would look incredibly suspect to the real DT, who would call them out at some point). Given then that the 2nd DT story is likely true, and they checked sidersprang/L, then L must be GF if red at all. However, it seems unlikely he would choose GF over BC in this case, I just don't see it.

So while remotely possible, it seems extremely unlikely all 3 are red. Finally, if all 3 are red and were contacted by this 2nd DT, the DT would be dead by now. The “other DT’s” blind faith in Incognito is still bothersome, but it would help explain why he chose sidersprang too, using Incognito’s (bad-idea) DT check-list.

3. Two are red, 3rd one is not.
3a. In + BC are red, L is blue. I don’t see this as a possibility: L would know they were wrong about his role (unless they guessed right – highly unlikely).
3b. L + BC are red, In is not. Again, highly unlikely, BC can’t pass night 2 test from In unless he is implausibly lucky.
3c. L + In are red but BC is not. Could happen, but would require L to be GF to pass DT checks.

4. One is red, others are not.
BC can’t be red if the other two are not – he’d have to get hugely lucky on both nights.
If L is red and the others are not, he’d have to be GF.
In could obviously be anything-aligned.

Conclusions:

BC is very likely blue as claimed, in all scenarios. The only shadow of doubt is in the “all red” scenario, which seems extremely unlikely as explained above.

L may be red under scenarios 4 anc 3c, and would have to be GF in both cases. Given the timing of his initial soft-roleclaim this seems unlikely, but perhaps exercise some caution for another night.

Incognito could obviously be anything-aligned, but given the “other DT” is most likely real and still alive, he’s looking pretty blue now as well.

I am comfortable voting for whomever you want, unless something goes seriously wrong here.

citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
March 17 2010 19:30 GMT
#1218
I understand why you are extremely frustrated. Last game, I felt bored and out-of-the-loop, because even though there was a LOT of activity in the thread, it seemed like the "town circle" kept a lot of information to themselves, and it ended up to the point that my activity dwindled down to me becoming reaally inactive and didn't put in much effort into my posts, because no one seemed to listen anyways. As a townie again this game, I'm striving to stay focused and active. I DO think there's a worth in us posting publicly in the thread, even if our officials are hiding behind the scenes. Why? Because even though it's really boring that the thread is crawling along at the pace of a snail, it is this that makes it difficult for mafia to slip through the cracks. Also, in this game, every post can be considered, and nothing readily dismissed.

I do agree with you though that BC should have been more forthcoming with information earlier in the game, ESPECIALLY as a protected DT. But it seems that he has pretty much chosen to play this game as a figurehead of sorts, with Incognito as the spokesperson.

Good points. This behind the scenes play + L's incredibly abrasive/unapproachable attitude will kill most threads. Sure, Ace will usually argue with him for the fun of it, but that still leaves most players feeling frustrated. I played that "arguer" role in parts of this game at times, but that little bit of fun will now stop. L basically claimed/has cover to be obnoxious/provocative on purpose, since he didn't care if was killed, at least he could blow up suspects. Of course, making ridiculous arguments also makes the mafia less likely to kill you, they will be tempted to sit back and watch townies attack each other - a reasonable explanation as to why he didn't get hit yet.

The medics will protect Incognito/BC (L is less likely to get hit). The DTs will perform the role-checks. They will tell us who to vote for. There isn't much else to say unless something really weird happens last minute.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-17 21:42:28
March 17 2010 21:40 GMT
#1219
On March 18 2010 03:19 johnnyspazz wrote:
holy shit versatile, youre like mini-ace


I told her posting like that someone would call it out! I said the same thing ^_^

@citizen: I argue with L because he's usually hilariously wrong. Check my track record ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 17 2010 21:44 GMT
#1220
There's no reason to protect incog at this point. There's no way to confirm him and his two bus shunts are used. He's the equivalent of a green, kinda. 100% of medic protection should be on BC unless we set up a driver. If I die, whatever, that speeds up our rape train a day.

Being frustrated isn't a reason to de-rail a town rape train. If you feel like you have nothing to do, go look at your number 1-3 suspects and go check how they act in prior games, then report your findings here.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
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