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On March 17 2010 14:52 Bill Murray wrote:


respond to this L

the mafia wouldn't let me run if i was on their team.

On March 17 2010 15:03 johnnyspazz wrote:

why not? i don't quite understand this reasoning

On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:


There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.

On March 17 2010 15:08 Bill Murray wrote:

Because I am a fuckup.



Come save me, Foolishness.

On March 17 2010 15:55 Foolishness wrote:


Unfortunately I'm about to lose a green friend, not a red one.

On March 17 2010 11:07 citi.zen wrote:


Not even remotely - why would a mafia in office care if BG's are killed? It's not like they need them for protection, and in fact it can be an easy way to increase credibility - OMG they must be coming for us!!?!?

Don't assume anything until the officials start to speak up and actually make sense.

On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote:


Lol.. wow, you're right; I somehow completely didn't consider this. The thing is though, if mafia have a member in office and just killed off the 2 BG's, they would essentially be wasting 2 KP on people they know are just regular green townies, instead of gunning for potential blues. It seems to me that the only reason why the mafia would do this is if they thought they would be unable to accomplish a successful lynch of the mayoral role that they do not have in office.

Last game, I was a firm advocate that AT LEAST the mayor or pardoner HAD to be mafia, given the game format with 2 mafia teams, and the very, very low vote count of elections, to the point that I hopped on the redtooth bandwagon, just because I thought redtooth may be mafia, and was fairly certain that L was, and he promised to off himself if redtooth flipped blue (which he did, but L didn't hold himself up to that end of the bargain lulz).

But in this game, I am not so sure whether there's mafia in office. According to Incog and BC, they have worked together using their respective roles of busing and role checking to confirm each others roles. So with regard to there being mafia in office, it seems that BC is a confirmed DT, and Incog is a confirmed bus driver. The question is then, is Incog town or mafia aligned? There's definitely a chance that he's mafia aligned, but I don't know how we could discern whether he is one or not. Even if he is though, I don't think it'd be a huge threat to the town. He's probably not in contact with fellow mafia, which makes me doubt that Incog and BC could both be collaborating and both be mafia (in which case the town would be screwed). And a mafia-aligned bus driver with no more swaps left and not knowing who his team mates probably isn't much use to them.

What I think we should think about is whether the mafia only ran ONE mayoral candidate--Malongo. Keep in mind that Malongo ran really late in the game, which could be indicative of the fact that the mafia didn't have anybody who took decisive action, and up and ran without consulting the rest of the team. This would make me more inclined to think that our officials are legit.

Someone I would like to call out though is tree.hugger. I was looking at the players list and had completely forgotten that you were playing. Your last post was on like the 13th I think? Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on?

On March 17 2010 16:20 Bill Murray wrote:
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Fishball's archive post is devoid of any content. He, to me, isn't putting forth nearly as much effort as a lot of other people within this game are. I get a general feeling that he is being "coached" by a "veteran".

On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote:
So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things:

A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random.

B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly.

C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/

D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive.

E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble.

8. johnnyspazz
10. sidesprang
17. d3_crescentia
18. L
21. Foolishness
25. BloodyC0bbler

So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots.
Malongo is Running For Officials
My platform is based on:

A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town.

B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup.

C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly.

D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4.

Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways

On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote:
Oh hey, good of you to join the party.

Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?

Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS.

On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote:
Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on?

On March 17 2010 20:48 l10f wrote:
I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi).