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On August 23 2010 07:46 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 07:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 23 2010 05:38 Bill Murray wrote:On August 22 2010 20:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 22 2010 16:49 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, I'm not mafia, so if anyone picked [6] with me I'm pushing for their lynch guess we'll have to take your word on that huh? I'm fine with your lynch. bad course of action you came up with No, you're fine with my lynch because you're spiteful due to a past game. Public knowledge of who is taking what number = we can lynch liars, plain and simple. It gives the mafia 0 wiggle room if EVERYONE claims. Use your head. Don't say my reasons you pathetic piece of shit. i say what i mean. go choke. can't acccept the fact that exposing our numbers is a shitty plan? i changed mine just because someone picked mine. thanks for posting pandain. What stops the mafia? 8ust go somwhere and die bill. um im seeking you being banned over this post this crosses the line on ad hom
General policy:
Now Bill came to me to complain about this post. In the future, I would prefer it if players went to the game moderator/host first (unless their problem is with the host, of course, in which case they can just post here or PM pretty much any of the hosts). Then, if the host thinks it is serious enough (and usually appropriate warnings are given out), we can start talking bans. I am not go-to person on discipline. The host should be the one determining the rules and regulating the environment of their game.
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johnnyspazz has been afk from PYP2 for over 48 hours. No idea what happened to him so I'm adding him to the list.
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On August 25 2010 09:43 Ace wrote:
johnnyspazz has been afk from PYP2 for over 48 hours. No idea what happened to him so I'm adding him to the list.
Which makes this his third modkill? I warned him before the game that if he got himself modkilled again, the current policy says it would be permanent. Is that what you want?
To: johnnyspazz [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Mafia Banlist
Date: 8/21/10 01:14
Just be careful. The way things stand right now, the 3rd modkill is permanent. Please don't get yourself modkilled again.
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lol oh wow. Well no not a permaban since he isn't a troublemaker at all. I'll wait till he gets back to hear what happened but he'll have to sit out for a while no matter what.
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From: johnnyspazz [ 1246 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Inactivity
Date: 8/25/10 13:07
I know this is going to sound really stupid because I just got off the banlist but the truth is that I moved in to college on Sunday and I did not have internet for the first two days at school because they want us to register our mac addresses with the school before we can use the internet. We had orientation activities on Monday and Tuesday was when my floor got internet access. It was just really bad timing and I didn't mean to break the flow of the game.
....I don't even know what to say. On the one hand, things were out of his control, but on the other, why would you sign up for a game when you knew you would be moving + starting college? Very irresponsible.
Opinions, anyone?
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Given that games don't have a definitive start date and just wait for signups, I would say heavy heavy probationary stuff but like, not ban.
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On August 25 2010 13:38 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +From: johnnyspazz [ 1246 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Inactivity
Date: 8/25/10 13:07
I know this is going to sound really stupid because I just got off the banlist but the truth is that I moved in to college on Sunday and I did not have internet for the first two days at school because they want us to register our mac addresses with the school before we can use the internet. We had orientation activities on Monday and Tuesday was when my floor got internet access. It was just really bad timing and I didn't mean to break the flow of the game. ....I don't even know what to say. On the one hand, things were out of his control, but on the other, why would you sign up for a game when you knew you would be moving + starting college? Very irresponsible. Opinions, anyone?
Not that my opinion matters too much, but lots of schools don't require orientation, but the internet issue is understandable. Do remember, PYP2's sign ups started around when Caller's "whippersnappers" post for a game. (What happened to that? =[ )
I would suggest a no ban in that situation, but that's just my opinion. He should definitely be warned that he needs to evaluate important things that are coming up, and decide if he can be active enough in a game of mafia.
And now to find Caller....
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On August 24 2010 08:09 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2010 07:46 Bill Murray wrote:On August 23 2010 07:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 23 2010 05:38 Bill Murray wrote:On August 22 2010 20:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 22 2010 16:49 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, I'm not mafia, so if anyone picked [6] with me I'm pushing for their lynch guess we'll have to take your word on that huh? I'm fine with your lynch. bad course of action you came up with No, you're fine with my lynch because you're spiteful due to a past game. Public knowledge of who is taking what number = we can lynch liars, plain and simple. It gives the mafia 0 wiggle room if EVERYONE claims. Use your head. Don't say my reasons you pathetic piece of shit. i say what i mean. go choke. can't acccept the fact that exposing our numbers is a shitty plan? i changed mine just because someone picked mine. thanks for posting pandain. What stops the mafia? 8ust go somwhere and die bill. um im seeking you being banned over this post this crosses the line on ad hom General policy:Now Bill came to me to complain about this post. In the future, I would prefer it if players went to the game moderator/host first (unless their problem is with the host, of course, in which case they can just post here or PM pretty much any of the hosts). Then, if the host thinks it is serious enough (and usually appropriate warnings are given out), we can start talking bans. I am not go-to person on discipline. The host should be the one determining the rules and regulating the environment of their game.
About that...
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I lost my temper. Was having a baaaaaaaaad day. I realized immediately afterwards, but I couldn't edit my post...I shouldn't have posted that.
In my defense, I actually like Bill
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On August 25 2010 22:30 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2010 13:38 Qatol wrote:From: johnnyspazz [ 1246 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Inactivity
Date: 8/25/10 13:07
I know this is going to sound really stupid because I just got off the banlist but the truth is that I moved in to college on Sunday and I did not have internet for the first two days at school because they want us to register our mac addresses with the school before we can use the internet. We had orientation activities on Monday and Tuesday was when my floor got internet access. It was just really bad timing and I didn't mean to break the flow of the game. ....I don't even know what to say. On the one hand, things were out of his control, but on the other, why would you sign up for a game when you knew you would be moving + starting college? Very irresponsible. Opinions, anyone? Not that my opinion matters too much, but lots of schools don't require orientation, but the internet issue is understandable. Do remember, PYP2's sign ups started around when Caller's "whippersnappers" post for a game. (What happened to that? =[ ) I would suggest a no ban in that situation, but that's just my opinion. He should definitely be warned that he needs to evaluate important things that are coming up, and decide if he can be active enough in a game of mafia. And now to find Caller....
Everyone's opinion matters. Elitism is already a problem here. I'd rather not make that problem worse.
I noticed that Ace hasn't actually modkilled jspazz yet. Is this correct? In which case he should just start posting again. Otherwise it seems that people are advocating a warning? I'd still like to hear Ace weigh in.
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I replaced Jspazz with Subversion
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On August 08 2010 11:24 flamewheel wrote:
Iaaan was modkilled for inactivity in TL Mafia XXX.
Sorry about that, I'll make sure I'm actually around next time I play :/ If i can play again 
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On August 26 2010 03:43 Ace wrote:
I replaced Jspazz with Subversion
Mmmm my bad then. I guess we give him a very strict warning this time? Like if he is ever modkilled again for any reason it is permanent? Sound good to everyone?
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Ouch permaban sounds harsh. I think he just has to sit out for a while(like very long) and doesn't get preference for most games. But that is up to individual mods.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Am I getting softer? Permabans are detrimental. I'd think the system should just be changed to an increasing number...
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So are we thinking of just increasing the number some more? 1/3/5/7/9....? I agree that permaban is harsh. When we were discussing it, I honestly didn't think that anyone would get modkilled 3 times. I mean, that's a lot of sitting out games.
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someone like jspazz certainly adds to the meta, because it makes you think that when a host makes up a roster they dont want him on mafia or to have a PR
maybe it doesnt have to be a linear increase in games and instead for the 3rd it could just be like a month not allowed in any games, or two months or something?
seems easier to keep track of at least
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On August 26 2010 13:21 Divinek wrote:
someone like jspazz certainly adds to the meta, because it makes you think that when a host makes up a roster they dont want him on mafia or to have a PR
maybe it doesnt have to be a linear increase in games and instead for the 3rd it could just be like a month not allowed in any games, or two months or something?
seems easier to keep track of at least
Actually, game #s are pretty easy to keep track of. New thread + someone contacts host or me = 1 game sat out.
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hm, fair enough! well i like the idea of games for the first warning or two, i just meant beyond that. But if it's easy for you to keep track of that ban thread then that's cool. just a suggestion 
i mean i guess the people practically keep track of it for you for the most part lol, a person is probably pretty on the ball for when they're getting unbanned from games
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On August 26 2010 13:50 Divinek wrote:hm, fair enough! well i like the idea of games for the first warning or two, i just meant beyond that. But if it's easy for you to keep track of that ban thread then that's cool. just a suggestion i mean i guess the people practically keep track of it for you for the most part lol, a person is probably pretty on the ball for when they're getting unbanned from games
Yeah it really isn't much of a hassle. The harder part is keeping track of the new modkills and when games start/end.
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Just to be sure, there were no bans from PYP2, yes? And nobody was using the game against a ban sentence? I feel weird not having to update the OP a bunch after a game ends.
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