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On February 10 2010 04:14 meeple wrote: Sweet... lets get this party started... Just curious as to why we have the 48 hour days? To be honest in that last game we had the activity to do 24 hours days. In our game meeple we needed those 48 hour days because there were periods where no one posted anything for hours. I think this game will be really interesting seeing as how the mafia won't be interested in killing townies, and will make the mafia also do a bit of clue analysis to figure out who the opposite family is. DT's will be valuable to both mafia and townies this game. | ||
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On February 10 2010 09:58 Incognito wrote: 48 hours have been standard for games as large as these. People need some time to read through the posts, and not everyone can be constantly checking. The 48 hour days is also to accommodate for the difference time zones. If the town is eliminated, then yes, it is true that the mafia with more members automatically wins. However, it is unlikely that all the townies will die before the mafia because the KP is under the mafia's control. The mafia do not know all the roles, so it is difficult for them to target only townspeople. Incognito being too nice and helpful. All signs point to mafia | ||
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On February 12 2010 07:55 tree.hugger wrote: I think it'll be nice to have a game where half the people and nearly all the blues aren't inactive... You sound like you speak from experience tree.hugger | ||
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On February 12 2010 09:22 d3_crescentia wrote: yeah must have been real rough having to deal with all those inactives... quite | ||
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On February 13 2010 00:50 Abenson wrote: wtf? is the unit avatar measured by post count per day? I really wanna evolve D: sidesprang: 250 - ling flamewheel91: 358 - drone ?!?!?!?!? Its like pokemon, some evolve faster then others | ||
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On February 13 2010 07:04 Phrujbaz wrote: Somebody could make a convenient database. Thanks for volunteering | ||
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On February 14 2010 10:48 Mystlord wrote: Some thoughts on what I've read (I might be forgetting some stuff): I think that clues are definitely important pre-Day 3, but we shouldn't lynch on them, rather they should be used to get everyone discussing. Lynching based purely off of clues is completely retarded early in the game because there's nothing backing anything up, and in a game like this, where we have a lot of variety, they could point to someone completely different, and we'd be none the wiser. That said, we should be getting everyone to participate in the discussion. There's nothing worse than inactives, which, as Ver pointed out, ultimately hurts the town as they look just as suspicious as the mafia, which leads to wasted lynches and random lynches. And as for L's suggestion to lynch Chezinu Day 1, I don't think that's a good idea. Last time that was tried (t_co), it absolutely did nothing. At the very least we need something other than "a lot of posts" for a valid lynch. Give us "inactives" a chance to speak lol, its only been a few hours. (was at an awesome new years party) So as people have pointed out before, clues are important. They will help us catch mafia, HOWEVER they should not be the sole deciding factor on a lynch in the early game, and the lynch should definitely not be random. We need a reason to get someone, not just because they were picked out of a list. After reading over the 7 pages you guys made in like 2 hours, I think that I'm going to vote for Ver, because it seems that he would lead the town in the right direction, having the best posts so far. | ||
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On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote: Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started. First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on. Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid. Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this. I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon. Ace you really need to give people more incentive if you expect them to vote for you. You should try and post something with more substance, then just "I'M ACE VOTE FOR ME". Some healthy mafia accusations never hurt anyone, I agree that clues aren't the most helpful early game as you can easily screw up, but its not any worse then just lynching a random player. | ||
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On February 14 2010 13:20 l10f wrote: Hmm, it looks like I won't be getting the mayor spot so easily! How about this, if I am elected mayor, instead of going on my vengeful rampage and lynching the people responsible for my quick death last game, I will lynch CHEZINU. You want to vote me now, don't you? Good because that would have been me... Sorry l10f =( | ||
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On February 14 2010 14:18 Faronel wrote: I think Ace was right... It's kind of a RISK like game with mini alliances where the town acts like a mafia family with kp of 1. There's definitely some intrigue here. So just to clear this up... we have 5 people contending for mayor? Ace, L, Citizen, l10f, meeple, and Ver. Right now everyone has 1 vote except for Ace and Ver who have 2 votes. I don't think Ver actually said he was running yet, but if he does he has my vote currently. | ||
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On February 14 2010 17:28 Bill Murray wrote: after reading your alls posts, it is actually sort of easy to put people into groups of "blind faith and teamwork" which would be associated with mafia. the only problem here is there seem to be multiple groups L Chezinu redtooth laaan zato-1 bloodycobbler ver L Mystlord fulgrim in my opinion are mafia, possibly not all in the same mafia, but that's my guess i also think that bloodycobbler is the other mafia godfather thanks Bill, I don't think i've posted more then 4 times yet. I am going to switch my vote from Ver to Dr.h because I haven't seen anything that Ver said, that would mean that he is running, and Dr.h appears to be similar in approach to this game, along with some good posts thus far. All the other candidates I have a hard time trusting. | ||
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On February 15 2010 09:37 Caller wrote: That's just it though: in this game the DT doesn't have to worry about dying as much purely because Mafia has a fixed, low KP, and we have medics. Suppose a DT roleclaims publicly that he is a DT. The mafias can't afford to hit him in the event that he is an actual DT because they will lose a KP that would be better served hitting an opposing mafia. More importantly, since mafia don't have to kill town to win, they don't need to hunt down all the blue roles immediately-in fact, they would like to have a DT to give them role checks to narrow down their search for the opposing mafia. So there's no real need for the DT to fear, especially because we have enough medics to negate any deaths. I already explained why its unlikely for mafia to pose as a DT purely because there's too much risk and not enough reward for the mafia team because there are two mafias. The game changes completely in this scenario so a lot more can be done than in a normal town vs. one mafia game. I was actually going to post a similar idea but caller beat me too it. I think that our DT's shouldn't be in alot of danger this game because mafia want to use the DT's not kill them. (unless they are trying to eliminate the town). I think our focus now should be towards getting one or two confirmed DT's so they can start a circle of trust with townies they role-check. This would allow the town a greater sense of security, because the mafia wouldn't waste their time on medic protected DT's and confirmed townies. | ||
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Vote Tally for Mayor/Pardoner [QUOTE]On February 15 2010 09:41 flamewheel91 wrote: Vote Tally for Mayor/Pardoner BloodyC0bbler Votes: 0 citi.zen Votes: 7 Fishball Faronel DoctorHelvetica MasterDana dozko [NyC]HoBbes 789 l10f Votes: 1 Malongo meeple Votes: 0 Ver Votes: 4 BloodyC0bbler Bill Murray Amber[LighT] Vivi57 Ace Votes: 2 Caller Abenson redtooth Votes: 1 Chezinu L Votes: 5 Iaaan ~OpZ~ Madnessman Zato-1 Scamp DoctorHelvetica Votes: 2 citi.zen Fulgrim Abstain sidesprang l10f redtooth Ace Mystlord Ver Nikoner ShoCkeyy QuickStriker johnnyspazz Phrujbaz So it appears that Citi.zen is in the lead with 7 votes and then L with 5. I am a little concerned with voting for citi.zen solely based on his last game (which admittedly was well done). It is interesting that many candidates seem almost ignored completely by the votes, and assuming some mafia have voted yet, it seems that the votes are polarized in a few areas. | ||
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On February 15 2010 12:29 Ace wrote: ok cool, no problem. Just make sure that in the event of my death you offer yourself up for lynching when I flip green ok? People need to get one idea into their heads: this is not like any of the other mafia games. When someone is lynched, its going to be alot harder to analyze the voters, and the people who pushed for their death. If a player flips red, that could mean that the voters are: a) town, and their suspicions were right or b) mafia trying to kill off the other family if the player flips green or blue, in all the other games, we could assume that there are pretty good chances that the players who voted to lynch them were mafia. HOWEVER in this game, the mafia don't all know each other, coupled with the fact the mafia are trying to hit red just as hard as the town, I think this would make the accusers have equal chance of being red or green. | ||
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On February 15 2010 13:57 SugiuraMidori wrote: I told you why I'm abstaining... they're all hooligans!! And it gets OLD to see vet players always take mayor pardoner.. what's the freaking point, let some new players learn how to play the game. Also.. edited the last post to show it in count order, and placed old post in spoiler so it's preserved. Removed the mods from the counts as well... I think abstentions hurt the town more then a vote for a bad candidate. Not only are you not giving input to the town's direction, you are denying the town information about yourself. I would encourage abstainers to change their vote to a candidate before the end of the election. (not directed at you sugiura, just abstainers in general, as we appear to have a lot of them) | ||
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On February 15 2010 14:10 johnnyspazz wrote: i can safely say i barely learned anything from my last game lol It was inactivity guys, luckily this game doesn't seem to have that problem. | ||
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On February 15 2010 23:35 Abenson wrote: It's time i posted something useful :D As of now, if I were the mafia I would just sit back and relax while the town kills each other (like ver said), so therefore the correct actions for town would be to use the power of pm's (?) and also check up on the extremely inactive people. I also believe that analyzing player's behavior from past games will benefit us greatly, since it's easy to compare the posts, especially if the player is veteran (Ace, Bloodycobbler, Caller... etc.) According to the Mini Mafia games, Ace tends to be a dick and flame whenever he is a townie... but then again veterans have tons of experience so they can act like whatever role they want. Another notable thing is Chezinu, who, in mini mafia III was actually somewhat calm when compared to the way he is behaving right now. I believe that ridding the mafia of a veteran player will benefit us greatly, so I think we should all go to the past games and start analyzing the vets :D This doesn't make much sense, because the mafia are trying to kill the other mafia, not the other townies. | ||
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On February 15 2010 15:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You said yourself if you flip green, that myself/L/laaan are likely mafia. Saying there is no information to be gleaned from your death either way is silly. I wouldn't call ver a vocal supporter of you, but like redtooth said. If you are mafia, your allies will likely not vehemently defend you but perhaps try to discourage the use of clue analysis. Ver made a post a while back saying that "anyone discouraging clue usage is probably innocent" and it seems to me (please correct me if I'm wrong) that you tried to discourage redtooth from making anti-ver posts with your PM to him. redtooth just now has added a fair amount to the case for you being scum. You're saying my suspicion isn't based on any analysis, but I've stated many times it has to do with your dodging L's questions, being unwilling to provide alternative solutions, and the biggest basis of your argument being "fuck you I'm ace i dont need to defend myself cuz im ace" Did you guys read my last post about this? If Ace flips red or green you have an equal chance of being town or mafia. This game is different from the last games because the mafia families: a) aren't trying to kill townies, but each other b) don't know who the other family is So if a person is really pushing for someone's death, and that someone flips red, that wouldn't clear the accuser in my mind. They could be from the other mafia family and got a lucky hit, OR just a townie who got a lucky hit. Scenario 2: The someone flips green, their accuser could be a mafia who got a lynch wrong, OR a townie who got a lynch wrong. I'm having a real hard time seeing how we would analyze deaths of lynch candidates. | ||
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On February 15 2010 23:44 Abenson wrote: I think it makes perfect sense... It if because of precisely that the mafia has to kill each other that they don't have to do much. There is no need to really participate in the town discussion, since the logical way for mafia to win is to look and analyze clues, decide which one of the clues point to the other mafia, and kill them all. I'm just trying to think like a mafia... I apologize if I'm thinking illogically or like a noob. Its ok, but I think the mafia would be very involved in the discussion, so they can influence the lynch votes to avoid hitting their members, and to hit the other mafia's members. If they have enough influence they could effectively have an extra KP. That's just my opinion of it. | ||
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On February 16 2010 06:26 Caller wrote: Did you even read my post? I already stated very clearly that there is absolutely no incentive for mafia to kill DTs right now, or as long as the balance of power between the two mafias is maintained. None at all. Mafia have no method of identifying other mafia at this stage this early in the game. They want DTs to clear up suspects on their lists. Mafia don't have to kill a single townie this game in order to win, either. And I doubt a godfather would expose themselves this early. Why would they care about townie circles? Again, I stated multiple times that all mafia has to do is kill the other mafia. Infiltrating townie circles is a lot less useful than it is in games with just one mafia. Got to agree with caller here. The mafia wouldn't have any incentive to kill the DT, they have limited kp, and wasting one on a DT who is probably medic protected wouldn't look like a good plan to the mafia. If we have one or two confirmed DT's around, it would make the game alot easier for the town, because by clearing townies as green, the mafia won't bother hitting them, which in turn could help create a central group of townies. The DT's wouldn't do anything but help the mafia kill each other faster and avoid hitting greens. The only difficulty would be identifying the true DT's from the mafia, which could probably be resolved in a day/night cycle or two. | ||
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On February 16 2010 08:45 redtooth wrote: actually don't know if this is a terrible play or not. hope it doesn't make you guys trust me any less than you already do... buuuuut: i'm medic.  .and Ace could you stop associating yourself with me? it keeps making me look guilty. W.T.F. Seriously redtooth??? Why would you roleclaim right before the election was over. Definitely the stupidest thing I've seen all game. Now we have to wonder whether he actually is the medic or whether it was a mafia ploy to get more votes. Also did you stop to think that the mafia gets to decide how many bodyguards they want to put in on day 1???? Medic is the one blue role we DONT want revealed, because unlike the DT's medics will probably hurt the mafia's chances of winning more then a DT would. | ||
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Ver Chezinu Caller citi.zen decafchicken meeple d3_crescentia Ace Empyrean Bill Murray All the people who voted for redtooth. The bolded ones changed their vote with less then 1 hour left in the election | ||
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On February 16 2010 09:38 Ace wrote: So he convinced you he was innocent because he forgot to vote? lol. Really you expect me to believe that? You're full of it. Give up L. You're clearly Mafia. Wrong on clue analysis, and "convinced" he's innocent because he said he forgot to vote if you didn't PM him. Right. Ace sometimes you open your mouth the heavens sing out as infinite wisdom flows from your mouth, other times you just cough up a ball of shit. This is the latter, if you bothered to read posts in this game, you would've remembered my post about how just because someone flips green doesn't mean the accusers are mafia, mafia is trying just as hard as the town to kill mafia. There is an equal chance of L being green as red. My suspicion is on you however, for you switching your vote to redtooth at the end of the election. Why? enlighten us oh veteran of mafia Ace | ||
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On February 16 2010 09:50 Ace wrote: My vote was on redtooth. He claimed Medic. Thats why I took it away. Then I thought about his motive for lying at that point in time and it really didn't matter because Ver wasn't here anyway. So me switching my vote back within a few minutes changed nothing. There's no suspicion there. Maybe you should bother questioning the people that pushed him from Pardoner -> Mayor. Pardoner is more powerful than Mayor anyway. So you took it away from him because you realized that having an elected official that careless would be horrible for the town? Or because you wanted him to be rolechecked? | ||
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On February 16 2010 10:01 Mystlord wrote: What the hell? The most retarded stuff happened while I stepped out. First redtooth roleclaims medic before the elections are over (WTF?!), then people vote him into office because you're afraid of losing a medic? And now we can't confirm if he's a medic. Great. Obviously either common sense has been completely destroyed, or scum is at work here. Oh dear God BM. Your logic fails on so many levels... Why would mafia 100% defend ace/redtooth? And I can't even pretend to understand the rest of your post. By the way, DrH, you asked before the elections were over who'd I lynch, and I'd lean towards Ace. He's just involved with too many people and has made too many posts. However, I'm not confident in that enough to push for an Ace lynch, although the vote switching has made me a bit more suspicious again... Oh yeah, and it appears that we have gotten nothing off of the Empyrean lynch. Huzzah! Time to wait for Night 2... Technically we don't have to wait, hopefully the mafia families will do some of the work for us. We should continue trying to identify mafia within the town. | ||
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Ace I'm a bit more sure about. There are some clues that point to him (although as we saw with Emp, this isn't the most reliable method.) Also I've just found Ace to be very unhelpful to the town for the most part this game. His campaign was basically "lol nubs you guys vote for me kk?", and he spent alot of time defending himself from L and others. Finally the election, Ace switched his vote from redtooth and then back again in the last minutes of the election. (he did give an explanation, but i'm not completely satisfied) I think that redtooth and Ace are part of the same mafia family, and that redtooth defended ace by mistake, and then started accusing him so he wouldn't look suspicious. | ||
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On February 16 2010 10:18 Ace wrote: Listen, for the last time my vote isn't suspicious. I went from Redtooth -> L - > Redtooth in the span of a few minutes and anyone reading this thread knows I wasn't going to vote for L seriously. How can you continue to question me but NOT look at the people that tipped over Redtooth in becoming Mayor? Come on, you can't say with a straight face I'm more suspect than yourself in that regard. I voted for Dr.h, thinking that redtooth would be a bad candidate.... I'll admit that there are others that voted for redtooth that look suspicious, but I hadn't suspected them previously. (meeple comes to mind) | ||
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FOR MAFIA: Town (mafia do not hit): Caller (good albeit rare contributions, doubt there is red here) Dr.H (he has been posting alot, but in my opinion they've been good quality, I don't see why everyone is attacking him all the time) Chezinu (call me stupid, but I actually think he's the DT, he only roleclaimed in the thread until after I talked to him via pm) Mafia (HIT THEM HARD)- Redtooth (see my post above, although you can't hit him because he got elected....) Ace (see my post above) decafchicken- (he's lurking just like he did last game when he was godfather, also voted for redtooth with little reason) Suspicious people (possible hit): Meeple (election switching votes) d3_cresentia (I felt her posts were much higher quality last game when town, also ninja voted for redtooth) BC (points brought up previously about posting behavior) retards- BM (if he isn't mafia, I don't know what to say) redtooth (even if you are medic, roleclaiming right before the election was over was a horrible move) ????????????- L (i have no clue about you) Ver DT guide to checking people- Avoid role checking the vets with the most posts (Ace, Ver) because these guys have high chances of being godfathers, instead try to check the more active but less Vet players. I also reccomend checking Chezinu so we can know whether he is actually a DT or not, or checking other people on the town list. Medics guide to protecting people- I would recommend protecting someone on the green list, and avoid people who might be mafia, use that thing in between your ears, and DONT roleclaim. Keep your role to yourself, you are in danger of being hit by mafia, and we will need you later in the game for sure, so don't screw up. Vigi's save your kills for later nights | ||
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On February 16 2010 11:06 Ace wrote: Interesting Fulgrim, I didn't know we had vigilantes in this game. Haha, no we don't, just went back and checked. Thanks =) | ||
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On February 16 2010 12:27 redtooth wrote: THIS IS BULLSHIT. I HAD A PM FROM INCOGNITO ASKING IF I WAS PARDONER WOULD I WANT O PARDON EMP. LOL INCONSISTENCIES L. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN? and i went to sleep thinking i wouldn't be elected at all. instead i got a PM titled "Mr Mayor" from incognito. what. the. fuck. L any comments? | ||
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On February 16 2010 13:32 Chezinu wrote: Okay, here is the plan. 1. medics on me of course, because I'm special 2. godfathers disguised as medic should protect me as well. 3. Mafia hit the other mafia so that if they go for me, you will be in the lead. 4. Why would you waste any hits on me? 5. Mad hatters, you guys shouldn't put bombs on me - It would kill our medics. 6. To the mafia team I sided with, please send me your hit list. 7. redtooth please give me the bodyguard information, because I'm special. 8. L please pardon my annoying behavior. 9, That is all. lol @ 6 | ||
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Enjoy: + Show Spoiler + 07:30. Voting begins 7:56 Chezinu - BC 08:14 Chezinu - Citi.zen 9:18 Iaaan - abstain 10:00 Malongo - l10f 10:17 sidesprang - abstain 10:33 Bill Murray - Meeple 10:53 DoctorHelvetica - l10f 11:16 BloodyC0bbler - Ver 11:48 Caller - Ace 12:19 Abenson - abstain 12:16 Iaaan - abstain to L 12:44 Fulgrim - Ver 13:05 Abenson - abstain to Ace 13:19 Chezinu - Citi.zen to redtooth 13:41 Fishball - Citi.zen 13:55 l10f - abstain 14:26 Faronel - Citi.zen 15:01 redtooth - abstain 15:10 Ace - abstain 15:12 Mystlord - abstain 15:22 DoctorHelvetica - l10f to Citi.zen 18:00 MasterDana - Citi.zen 18:03 Chezinu - redtooth to Citi.zen 20:15 Ver - abstain 20:41 Bill Murray - meeple to Ver 21:36 Nikoner - abstain 22:19 ~OpZ~ - L 23:48 Amber[LighT] - Ver 2:59 madnessman - L 4:09 dozko - Citi.zen 5:43 Vivi57- Ver 5:47 ShoCkeyy - abstain 5:48 QuickStriker - abstain 6:24 johnnyspazz - abstain 6:49 Zato-1 - L 7:24 Chezinu - Citi.zen to redtooth 8:20 citi.zen - doctorhelvetica 8:36 [NyC]HoBbes - Citi.zen 8:43 Phrujbaz - abstain 8:58 789 - Citi.zen 9:09 Scamp - L 9:19 Fulgrim - Ver to DrH 9:53 Foolishness - abstain 10:01 LucasWoJ - abstain 10:23 SugiuraMidori - abstain 10:37 XeliN - Ver 11:13 Shikyo - abstain 11:18 DoctorHelvetica - Citi.zen to L 11:27 789 - Citi.zen to abstain 11:43 decafchicken - Ace 11:53 Bill Murray - Ver to Ace 12:04 tree.hugger - Ver 12:38 Bill Murray - Ace to tree.hugger 13:04 tree.hugger - Ver to DrH 13:37 [NyC]HoBbes - Citi.zen to abstain 13:40 d3_crescentia - abstain 13:40 CynanMachae - abstain 14:35 Bill Murray - tree.hugger to abstain 14:38 L - abstain 14:45 Chezinu -redtooth to BM 14:49 redtooth - abstain to L 15:12 Foolishness - abstain to BM 15:46 BloodyC0bbler - Ver to abstain 16:19 Ver - abstain to redtooth 17:35 Ace - abstain to redtooth | ||
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On February 17 2010 08:29 Ace wrote: Don't have much time, but Townies listen to Scamp and LucaWoj. Under NO circumstances should anyone reveal they are a medic. Those are our trump cards because whichever side is "winning" the shooutout can't be allowed to run wild. Bill Murray you're actually one of my top 3 suspects now. No purely because of the spam, but because you've been wrong multiple times. Not even Amber[light] or Vivi57 have missed this many times in a single game. Feels as though you're trying to pull off the clueless role. Redtooth Chezinu isn't a confirmed DT. Don't get why you are protecting him unless you feel he's the only credible pro-town player at the moment? Also I forgot if it was you that made the "DTs can safely claim" post, and since I'm about to leave I can't check. But if anyone checks this information out and see that you made the argument, or supported it you're getting lynched tomorrow. That would show a huge contradiction in what you said and then your decision to protect Chezinu. Of course I hope that's not the case ^_^ I'll be playing for real from now on. Let's hope I don't die tonight ^_^ I was one of the ones who thinks that DT's should roleclaim. Medics are a different story. | ||
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On February 17 2010 08:58 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: Ok, I have a bit of unexpected downtime I can get online for. My thoughts: Detectives get killed instantly when it's town vs ONE mafia. When there are two mafias, DT's are at least as useful to the mafia as they are to the town, if they can convince a DT to tell them who is in the other mafia family. Therefore, DT's claiming, while it may not be the smartest thing to do, depending on the situation, is by no means suicidal to the DT. My main point for having the DT's roleclaim is so that they don't get accidentally hit by the mafia, also they can clear greens so they won't get hit either. It helps the town survive, and helps more mafia get killed. | ||
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(GL Town! and ace why did you have to be green....) | ||
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On February 21 2010 00:56 Ace wrote: jeez pick up the thread activity people shhh Ace we're dead | ||
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On February 28 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wow, L had me completely fooled you had me completely fooled too.... | ||
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On March 04 2010 10:37 Chezinu wrote: Me and L suspected foolishness was GF (Why I didnt tell him much), but then iaaan started acting weird.. I didn't really want the gambino to kill him, I was just frustrated. Haha, I knew you were DT chez | ||
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Fulgrim
United States560 Posts
On March 04 2010 10:56 Chezinu wrote: Wait..that was S mafia? S mafia was killing my Circle? Yeah they killed me.... And yes, thank you flamewheel and incog for hosting this mafia game. You guys ran this flawlessly, and were fast at getting out those day and night posts | ||
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