TL Mafia XVIII

On February 10 2010 04:14 meeple wrote:
Sweet... lets get this party started...

Just curious as to why we have the 48 hour days? To be honest in that last game we had the activity to do 24 hours days.

On February 10 2010 09:58 Incognito wrote:
48 hours have been standard for games as large as these. People need some time to read through the posts, and not everyone can be constantly checking. The 48 hour days is also to accommodate for the difference time zones.

If the town is eliminated, then yes, it is true that the mafia with more members automatically wins. However, it is unlikely that all the townies will die before the mafia because the KP is under the mafia's control. The mafia do not know all the roles, so it is difficult for them to target only townspeople.

On February 12 2010 07:55 tree.hugger wrote:
I think it'll be nice to have a game where half the people and nearly all the blues aren't inactive...

On February 12 2010 09:22 d3_crescentia wrote:

yeah must have been real rough having to deal with all those inactives...

On February 13 2010 00:50 Abenson wrote:
wtf?
is the unit avatar measured by post count per day?
I really wanna evolve D:
sidesprang: 250 - ling
flamewheel91: 358 - drone
?!?!?!?!?

On February 13 2010 07:04 Phrujbaz wrote:
Somebody could make a convenient database.

On February 14 2010 10:48 Mystlord wrote:
Some thoughts on what I've read (I might be forgetting some stuff):

I think that clues are definitely important pre-Day 3, but we shouldn't lynch on them, rather they should be used to get everyone discussing. Lynching based purely off of clues is completely retarded early in the game because there's nothing backing anything up, and in a game like this, where we have a lot of variety, they could point to someone completely different, and we'd be none the wiser.

That said, we should be getting everyone to participate in the discussion. There's nothing worse than inactives, which, as Ver pointed out, ultimately hurts the town as they look just as suspicious as the mafia, which leads to wasted lynches and random lynches.

And as for L's suggestion to lynch Chezinu Day 1, I don't think that's a good idea. Last time that was tried (t_co), it absolutely did nothing. At the very least we need something other than "a lot of posts" for a valid lynch.

On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote:
Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.

First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.

Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.

Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.

I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.

On February 14 2010 13:20 l10f wrote:
Hmm, it looks like I won't be getting the mayor spot so easily! How about this, if I am elected mayor, instead of going on my vengeful rampage and lynching the people responsible for my quick death last game, I will lynch CHEZINU. You want to vote me now, don't you?

On February 14 2010 14:18 Faronel wrote:
I think Ace was right... It's kind of a RISK like game with mini alliances where the town acts like a mafia family with kp of 1. There's definitely some intrigue here.

So just to clear this up...

we have 5 people contending for mayor?
Ace, L, Citizen, l10f, meeple, and Ver.

Right now everyone has 1 vote except for Ace and Ver who have 2 votes.

On February 14 2010 17:28 Bill Murray wrote:
after reading your alls posts, it is actually sort of easy to put people into groups of "blind faith and teamwork" which would be associated with mafia.

the only problem here is there seem to be multiple groups
L
Chezinu
redtooth
laaan
zato-1
bloodycobbler
ver
L
Mystlord
fulgrim

in my opinion are mafia, possibly not all in the same mafia, but that's my guess

i also think that bloodycobbler is the other mafia godfather

On February 15 2010 09:37 Caller wrote:

That's just it though: in this game the DT doesn't have to worry about dying as much purely because Mafia has a fixed, low KP, and we have medics. Suppose a DT roleclaims publicly that he is a DT. The mafias can't afford to hit him in the event that he is an actual DT because they will lose a KP that would be better served hitting an opposing mafia. More importantly, since mafia don't have to kill town to win, they don't need to hunt down all the blue roles immediately-in fact, they would like to have a DT to give them role checks to narrow down their search for the opposing mafia. So there's no real need for the DT to fear, especially because we have enough medics to negate any deaths. I already explained why its unlikely for mafia to pose as a DT purely because there's too much risk and not enough reward for the mafia team because there are two mafias. The game changes completely in this scenario so a lot more can be done than in a normal town vs. one mafia game.

On February 15 2010 12:29 Ace wrote:
ok cool, no problem. Just make sure that in the event of my death you offer yourself up for lynching when I flip green ok?

On February 15 2010 13:57 SugiuraMidori wrote:
I told you why I'm abstaining... they're all hooligans!!

And it gets OLD to see vet players always take mayor pardoner.. what's the freaking point, let some new players learn how to play the game.


Also.. edited the last post to show it in count order, and placed old post in spoiler so it's preserved.
Removed the mods from the counts as well...

On February 15 2010 14:10 johnnyspazz wrote:

i can safely say i barely learned anything from my last game lol