I'm going to vote for Amber and Chezinu, Amber seems to be acting in a very mafia fashion contributing little yet trying to accuse people, L seems townie to me after speaking with him although i am still uncomfortable with the way he managed to manipulate everyone, myself included, into voting for redtooth. Chezinu if you would please provide some reason to not vote for you I would really appreciate it but currently the way you are acting means I feel like i don't have a choice.

XeliN

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February 26 2010 15:57 GMT

#2484

And if Johnny is not dead by the start of next voting session I think we have to vote for him

XeliN

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February 26 2010 22:22 GMT

#2487

Who, who are the mafia you helped catch, what was your role in helping catch them? The other is abit more difficult as it could potentially help the mafia if you reveal but just saying "i have confirmed so many townies that they can't...." ammounts to nothing. You can give no evidence of this just simply say it, there seems to be no-one here who is putting forward a strong argument against lynching you and if people can i would like them to as well.

Everything in that post, so far ammounts to, "ive done this and that honest trust me, lols!"

XeliN

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February 26 2010 22:26 GMT

#2488

If you look in the voting section he is even voting for people simply in order to save himself, seriously lynch chezinu this is getting ridiculous. If he's innocent then i would consider it his fault for continuously refusing to actually back up what he is saying.

XeliN

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February 26 2010 22:37 GMT

#2491

Yes but L there is a difference, he is actually claiming things. That he is the DT, that he has been active in bringing down 2 mafia already, that he has organised a group of proven town members e.t.c so for him to post in a way that ammounts to nothing seems far worse than someone doing so who hasn't actually claimed anything.

Thats how i see it anyway...

XeliN

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February 26 2010 22:45 GMT

#2492

Also it's a shame your going to get voted, seems pretty clear to me now that your not mafia, although str8 after red's death i wanted you lynched as well...

XeliN

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February 27 2010 18:44 GMT

#2534

I'm going to continue my somewhat impulsive voting attitude and vote for Tree.Hugger and Cynanmachae, Cynan seems to jump on voting patterns and is also voting for people who I do not consider mafia although this is quite poor reasoning but he has also been linked as a likely mafia and Tree.Hugger being a strong candidate of Ver's and given Ver's being shown to be both blue and incredibly useful to the town it seems wrong not to vote for him.

The whole Chezinu thing is still quite confusing//irritating to me and only arised after I asked a simple question that seemed to me to go mostly unanswered about from prattle about circles and vague assertions, but still I will hold back on voting on him as I am largely unsure and it would probably be done mainly out of irritation. Amber still seems questionable to me, but likewise that vote was simply impulsive response and thinking things through more I consider Tree.Hugger and Cyanmachae

Would still enjoy seeing some more concrete evidence of chezinu's claims, the longer we go on without such the redder he seems to appear in my eyes.

XeliN

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February 28 2010 18:37 GMT

#2601

Amber or Chezinu johnny

XeliN

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March 02 2010 11:59 GMT

#2715

Back, been kinda unable to follow thread as went to a TSL lan party meetup.

Vivi why are you pushing for my death? are people seriously suspicious of me for being Mafia, if so can you find any clue links whatsoever, or is it simply because L ended up persuading me he was Townie after I initially pushed strongly for his lynching then changed my mind? pretty sure I wasn't the only person to fool for his cunning ways.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 12:02 GMT

#2716

Also Dozko you asked a couple of pages back why I changed my mind on Chezinu, it was mostly because of this PM from Foolishness as well as the fact that I never intended to vote lynch chezinu in the first place but his continuing lack of evidence to back up his claims made me feel I had no choice at certain times, heres the PM from Foolishness

He said he has established a town circle. He also claims he has only inspected townies (he hasn't found any mafia yet). If you read the thread you can find out who he inspected (hint hint I'm one of those people). He's not lying about any of those pieces of information. I would also suggest PMing the people he "supposedly" inspected as well, and see what they have to say. (Also, all the people he has supposedly inspected have never voted for him to be lynched, nor said anything incriminating to him).

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Original Message:
Can you please explain why Chezinu is innocent, or why in your opinion he is.

He even PM'd me this yesterday

From: Chezinu [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Dear townie
Date: 2/26/10 08:08
From the posts in the thread and the lost of day and night cycle, you sound like a townie or a mafia trying really hard to seem like a townie. Good job. You shorten the mafia hit list! It would be dumb to try and hit you.

If the above is true and he thinks I am mafia then he could have answered my request and given me some details of his detecting in order to prove he is the DT, he also could give details even if he thought i was mafia as surely there are checks he has made that would no longer have an impact on the game?

I really am not sure on him, either he is a DT, He is a townie who has roleclaimed DT for some form of complex strategy, He is Mafia.

As of now the latter 2 are the only ones that make much sense to me and obviously the last is more likely than him pretending to be DT yet being innocent.

Please provide some evidence//reasons why not to lynch Chez, i've asked him countless times now in the thread and PM yet he refuses to.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 12:04 GMT

#2717

Realised i made a typo in the initial PM, I meant "If the above is true and he thinks I am townie he could have answered my request...."

Also something noteworthy, I recieved the exact same PM from foolishness, word for word, about 3-4 hours later.

This suggests to me he might have been forwarding it to someone else and mistakenly double sent it, not entirely sure what to make of that as he could potentially be in this "circle" that keeps getting brought up or be forwarding it to anyone but figured it was important stating.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 12:14 GMT

#2718

Also how on earth are people falling for Johnny's idiocy, "The medic who saved me last night please contact me blah blah blah"

It is painfully obvious that you are Sumiyoshi you would not be alive now if you were not and how you can still have influence over this game after this has been made clear to any rational person is cringe worthy.

Vote johnnyspazz for the love of god

XeliN

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March 02 2010 12:22 GMT

#2720

Just so I can follow scamp why is voting double lynch so important? please explain.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 13:27 GMT

#2722

Since when did you get the right to dictate who will and won't die?

I'm not entirely sure in the double lynch mostly because it does not seem many people have a clear reasoned idea as to who should be voted for and in situations like that it just makes it easier for the mafia to manipulate the voting.

although you are probably right in the time frame, the sumiyoshi are looking like they have won this unless something drastic happens and fast.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 17:16 GMT

#2729

Also if a medic DID protect johnny and also trusts that I am not mafia (a double scenario that is unlikely) then would they please PM and let me know because it would be enough to change my vote//mind on Johnny. As it is I see no reason why the townies would not vote for him.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 17:26 GMT

#2731

As for foolishness I am somewhat confused on him, did he not PM people to persuade them not to vote for L. L turned out to be Gambino which is evidence against the idea of Foolish being sumiyoshi although it is still possible.
Although given how Chezinu seems to me likely to be mafia I have to assume he would be sumiyoshi if this were the case as otherwise there would simply be more votes to lynch him (votes from sumiyoshi members) This seems to me to show that Chezinu is either Sumiyoshi or the detective, and even if he were the detective I would expect sumiyoshi members to try to kill him. Unless he is a townie detective working with the sumiyoshi which in itself would be enough to lynch him.

Am I wrong in any of this thinking, please give thoughts on the matter, townies only, no sumiyoshi posting allowed for at least the next 10 posts xD

XeliN

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March 02 2010 20:20 GMT

#2737

Expain why in your opinion johnny is a gambino.

I would ask you to explain why you suspect me as well but i think changing your mind on the matter is not a possibility, you are set in your belief I am mafia so I guess thats that. I would suggest you are mafia if it were not for the fact you also were adamant that I was mafia in the last game we played in and I in turn took that to mean you were mafia (as i knew i was not in that game) and it turned out you were townie as well so at least that is consistent.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 21:39 GMT

#2741

On March 03 2010 05:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
We need three more votes for double lynch. If you don't for it, you are pretty much clearly mafia.

The how the F is johnny still alive, his being gambino makes no sense.

XeliN

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March 02 2010 23:04 GMT

#2745

sorry scamp i forgot it makes much more sense to threaten anyone who disagrees with a double lynch that they will be killed next, you really are the source of wisdom on how to act i take my hat off to you.

Is johnny just simply claiming a medic has saved him or can anyone corroborate? otherwise as i stated before i think it is more likely he is inventing the medic save to justify his still being alive at this point in the game.