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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 10 2010 01:17 GMT
#43
I think I'm going to take a far more reserved approach to this game, and try to think far more carefully overall. Last Mafia game was quite an eye-opener.

Also Sumiyoshi pwns Gambino as a name.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 11 2010 04:10 GMT
#105
Salvatore seems way more like a first name than as a name of a family, but that said it is a really mafia name overall.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 11 2010 08:07 GMT
#115
I think the Tamagotchi family is an appropriate name
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 12 2010 17:33 GMT
#161
Something is telling me the magical 50 has been reached!
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 14 2010 09:24 GMT
#526
Oh no Bill what hast thou done!! Trying to come up with a plausible explanation for how "other" slipped in there but im drawing blank.

Firstly the activity in this game is amazing, expected to wake up with a good few pages to read, did not expect 20+...

Not entirely sure on who to vote for atm, going to have to go over the thread without skim reading, but I'm glad Bloody emphasised just how bad 10f's plan was (If elected he said he would lynch someone who was Mafia from a previous game) and can't believe more people didnt bring this up, but as I said have only skimmed so far.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 17 2010 01:37 GMT
#1543
Ok, I have been exceptionally busy with uni work over the last 2 days and has such havent trusted myself to use the internet (If i do i get no work done simple as that) Apologies for being inactive, I can and will be active from this point on.

Have spent the last hour and a half going through the thread and firstly Ace turning green suprised me, simply reading the whole thread in one big chunk and i felt he was contributing little and not defending himself against accusations well (and he is meant to be a veteran player).

Bill Murray, there seems to be some kind of idea especially at an earlier stage in the thread that he is clearly "innocent". From reading his posts I get quite the opposite feeling, he has been influential and accusatory, even changing votes last minute although was one of the few people who also changed last minute to give an explanation namely: "I didn't want Red to be pardoner". I would be inclined to consider him Mafia far more than a townie, but this is mostly on impression from going through the thread in one big chunk.

Anyway now I'm going to dedicate some time to something I did none of in the last mafia game and try to analyse some clues!
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 17 2010 01:54 GMT
#1551
One thing that immediately strikes me about the Day 2 post is the Fairy Tale connection that seems inherent within it.

Remeniscient of the "3 little piggies" or "3 bears" and seems like an underlying structure of the whole post.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 18 2010 03:45 GMT
#1682
Oh I've been linked by quite a few people how novel! I'm not Mafia so I'll save u guys some time there.
and lucas when I said I'd be active i think you might have misinterpreted what the word active means. It means i will look over the thread on a regular basis, try to contribute if i can and generally keep up to date with everything that is going on.

It does not mean i will be able to put my life on hold lock myself in my room and spam my keyboard on the hour every hour..
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 18 2010 04:21 GMT
#1689
Well to be honest what "good" defence am i meant to provide for the accusations. My profile pic could certainly be linked in the way that some have although I would say it is not a strong association I figured putting alot of effort into defending the indefensible would be pointless.

I guess better things to provide a defence of would be both 1) my inactivity compare to most others and 2) as someone pointed out providing nothing helpful to the town in the few posts I have made

well as to 1) i have already given my "defence" whether its true or not is irrelevant, its my story and i'm sticking to it.

2) Currently this game seems like one big cluster fuck to me, (not the players or the way its run or anything just in its sheer size and more complex strategy) I want to try to participate but currently i feel slightly out of depth by this game. I'll make a renewed effort to not post anything unless i can clearly see that it is both valuable and not repetition i guess.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 18 2010 12:10 GMT
#1695
Unfortunately not having a profile almost guarantees he is not Mafia, one of the things I have seen stated is that when the hosts are choosing it will only be from people with a profile to make clues from.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 18 2010 21:28 GMT
#1703
btw for clarity on my profile pick for clue analysis, it is meant to be a parody of the vitruivian man, depicting someone turning into the hulk.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 19 2010 09:33 GMT
#1773
I think that is very strong clue analysis Meeple, and it is consistent with the whole passage yet quite subtle so not obvious enough to be a false "clue"
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 10:24 GMT
#1839
On February 19 2010 14:42 meeple wrote:
Clue analysis:

johnnyspazz

[Clue]
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Meanwhile, the second Mafioso made his way all the way across town to a small apartment on the edge of the city wall. Although the road to the residence was filled with many twists and turns, the Mafioso was able to reach the apartment without too much loss of time. The Mafioso knocked on the door, waiting for a response. Nervous, Zato-1 pulled out his shotgun, ready to shoot the intruder if he proved to be a menace. But Zato-1 could not have been more prepared for what happened next. As he opened the door, he was immediately knocked down and impaled by an array of sharp objects. The intruder was nowhere to be seen, although neighbors who have walked by the now open door have noticed a hole in the wall directly behind where Zato-1 had been killed.


johnnyspazz has a sonic the hedgehog thing in his profile. Sonic's adventures are full of twists and turns and Sonic is fairly speedy, so he shouldn't lose too much time getting there. Also, hedgehogs are pretty spiky things, so that would explain the array of sharp objects and the incredible speed with which the murder happens, even though the guy was prepared. Lastly, Sonic is known to curl up into a ball and travel at great speeds, which could explain the hole in the wall.



Peoples thoughts on this? Am I the only one that thought this was some extremely good clue analysis?
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 16:17 GMT
#1849
I thought it was far too active earlier on but i would much rather it be like it was....
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#1853
In keeping with my previous attitude in the game of Mafia my only response to this can be

Dozko is mafia, clearly, lynch him now :O

This is sarcasm, I am suprised you suspect me of being Mafia though quite honestly.
also I specifically stated before this game had even started that I would be taking a different approach than the game before as I felt I played badly in the first game and have had reasons for a period of inactivity.

I'm also suprised you consider your suspicions of me are far stronger than those of other people that I would consider far more worthy of a vote lynch than me

But guess thats your descision.

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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 17:24 GMT
#1854
Also to slightly absolve me of this most serious of accusations, in a PM to Bill Murray i stated Mystlord as one of 3 people who I considered most likely to be Mafia.

If im Gambino as you say then I would hardly go around telling people I think he is mafia and giving reasons

Hopefully Bill can confirm this.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 17:26 GMT
#1856
EDIT: Bill is dead and won't be explaining anything

What are the rules on posting PM's i know you can't screenshot but can i copy paste?
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 17:43 GMT
#1858
Checked over the rules and saw nothing against it so:

+ Show Spoiler +
Mystlord on the strength of the clues and also i feel slightly uneasy about ver. Also Shockeyy simply because (i felt) he was so sinfully bad in the last game that even if he is a townie he is likely to be a hindrance.

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Original Message:
who do you think are 3 good candidates?

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Original Message:
I'm abstaining now, your PM's were persuasive and I think there are far better candidates for lynching lurking out there in Liquidia....

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Original Message:
i dont know if you followed my game, but i thought the mafia mayor was green so... yeah, my instincts are off.

I agree with you about L and Lucas_WoJ, Lucas especially has done way too much work to benefit the town to be red, and even if he is red, i would want to keep him around so he can keep compiling those lists he makes.

L is a bit of a conundrum for me. He is a pardoner, but he admitted to me in a PM that he doesn't even want to use his ability. "I'm not pardoning anyone. Pardoning is a gigantic waste of a day. "

he says that if he pardons someone (i asked him if he was going to pardon me if i got lynched), the town will just vote to lynch them again. I don't agree with him, as the mafia's kills will swing the number of players and potentially change the voting, but at least he's honest.

That makes me sort of trust him, the fact that he admits he would throw someone under the bus to win. I'd rather someone tell me that to my face than to have to pull the dagger out of my back u know?
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Original Message:
I know what you mean actually, from the last game when I was also town, when accused i simply felt like saying "I am green" and I think that in itself might be a tell towards someone being green as mafia's initial reaction would probably be a large defensive post about their actions e.t.c.

I don't want to read too much into that though but i certainly understand your point as i felt the exact same instinct to respond like that in the last game and in this one.

In the last game i was in a similar situation to how u feel, i thought it was blatantly obvious to anyone that I was green ^^.

I think the people who have accused me (Lucas and L, although i think theres more, they stand out) are most likely green. In my mind i would think it is the town that are going to be most actively accusing and trying to provoke people to responding far more so than either of the two mafia families.

then again last game i was sinfully wrong in my ideas of who was green and who was red so i've lost abit of faith in my instinct

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Original Message:
i think voting ends tomorrow at midnight your time
7pm EST
pretty sure... so that's 12 for you
hmm, you kinda made the same argument though... which made me think you're green when i thought you were red before. you said "im gonna save u all some time.. im not mafia" that's how i felt i was posting, maybe i'll just shut up so they don't kill me thinking i'm red... it's just hard for me to believe because i thought i was acting as green as possible without even meaning to do it because i am... like i have trouble lying.

if i was blue i would say i was "town aligned"
if i was red i wouldn't say anything at all
where i'm green i don't mind saying i'm green, because i am

does that make sense?

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Original Message:
My main suspicion is in the way you seemed to, quite quickly, seem to fit into this "everyone knows im 100% green lol" position and it seemed very strange, none of what you have said or done has warranted being put in that position, a mafia could easily have typed and acted in the exact same way so immediately i was like "Hmmmm *narrows eyes*" .

That really is the main issue, also some of your posts have struck me as being more subtle and manipulative than they might appear at first glance but that could just simply be interpretation.

I am by no means sure or even vaguely sure that you are Mafia, if your gonna respond which hopefully u will PM's are fun ^^ could u also put what times the voting ends? wanna make sure i don't miss an opporunity to change if i want to.
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Original Message:
oh, ok.
what in your opinion have my "mafia like tendencies" been?
i haven't really been trying to not act like mafia... haven't really been worried about it... but apparently a lot of people think i'm worthy of lynching, and i'm wondering why. i thought for sure everyone knew i was green moreso than almost anyone else but themselves (if they're actually green). like right now, i don't really trust anyone but myself. i know i'm green, and that's why i figured that the mafia won't be able to stick anything on me, but apparently i'm wrong considering the amount of people that want me dead lol

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Original Message:
Not to do with thinking your ruining the thread, It is subject to change but out of everyone so far you seem to exhibit some mafia like tendancies.I just chose as I didn't want to put "abstain" I will likely change as time goes on.

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Original Message:
hey, i see you voted for me as the lynch victim, is it because you think i'm red or because you think im ruining the thread?


Bear in mind this was a couple of days ago so my opinion is different most namely Ver who I think has made it clear he is town
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 22:08 GMT
#1881
Can someone knowledgable explain if Ver is completely innocent or still open to suspicion btw?

I kinda decided to trust him and PM'd him my role but im having misgivings
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 20 2010 23:48 GMT
#1893
On February 21 2010 08:23 LucasWoJ wrote:
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On February 21 2010 07:08 XeliN wrote:
Can someone knowledgable explain if Ver is completely innocent or still open to suspicion btw?

I kinda decided to trust him and PM'd him my role but im having misgivings



Intentional slip ups like this don't make us think you're blue. It makes us think that you intentionally want us to think you're blue.

Versatile, you'll never have a sure mafia lynched up. At this point though, we have 4-5 who are very likely mafia:

scamp, johnnyspazz, tree.hugger, zona, decafchicken, shocckey, amber[light], etc.

I just don't see how "we have no candidates right now" (which is false) can justify not voting for double lynch, a move that has the potential to help soo much.



I never said I was blue? what post are you reading?
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