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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 23 2010 04:04 GMT
#978
why would you use a double lynch this early when it won't reduce the Mafia KP...
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 23 2010 04:15 GMT
#997
look, I don't care if you guys lynch me or not, when I'm gone, la historia me absolvera, you'll know that I wasn't lying to you... I still just dont see why, in terms of the overall benefit of the town, you would use one of your double lynches when it has no chance of reducing Mafia KP, and early enough in the game that it is very likely that one if not both of your potential lynch-ees (probably not a word...) are innocent.
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 23 2010 04:19 GMT
#1000
by the way, the castro quote was 100% tongue-in-cheek, before you guys start thinking I'm some kind of fascist...
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 03:56 GMT
#1239
I abstained because I had not made up my mind on the clues quite yet, and then got too caught up in the Saints game to change my vote before the deadline
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 04:47 GMT
#1263
On January 25 2010 12:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 12:56 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
I abstained because I had not made up my mind on the clues quite yet, and then got too caught up in the Saints game to change my vote before the deadline


What a game huh?

Watched it at the local sports bar. Unbelievable.


Half of my family is from New Orleans, they say Bourbon street is going completely batshit insane
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 22:01 GMT
#1304
On January 26 2010 06:42 citi.zen wrote:
There are way too many inactive players, who barely do anything but the bare minimum not to get mod killed. Given the size of this group, it makes perfect sense for the mafia to hide in that bunch, as Ser Aspi said already. I say in the future we pick some people in that inactive group, based on whatever clues we can gather.

I still like Hobbes and keit for example. They are the best fit for the night 1 killed 1, and they certainly don't seem interested in solving this thing or contributing. When accused, they quickly sprung to action, then faded back into the crowd.

Just my 2c.


I have 20something posts on this thread, most of which are clue analysis
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 22:03 GMT
#1305
Im definitely not up there with DrH's 200, but to say I haven't been contributing or trying to solve this is blatantly incorrect
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 22:16 GMT
#1309
My posts were entirely analytical until I became a large suspect, then some became defensive, and then the last two days there were less of them because I had to play a gig this weekend...
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 25 2010 22:21 GMT
#1312
My only point is that I have been a lot more active than the other players you mention, and I feel like quite a few people on the thread would vouch for that
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 26 2010 02:12 GMT
#1329
On January 26 2010 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Wow. Losing two active townies is really going to hurt. Thank goodness no blues were hit though.

From glancing over the clues, the only thing I'm sure of now is that keit is mafia. Not only do the day 1 clues reference him, but the barbaric nature of the third attack as well as the attacker searching for food in the corpses pockets is a clear reference to the cookie monster.

His behavior has been somewhat suspicious as well.

The first attacker seems stealthy, quick, and vicious. Perhaps like a tiger? Every day, there is something putting at least a little bit of suspicion on Hobbes.


I was about to say, the person making the clues has it in for me...
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 26 2010 02:20 GMT
#1331
is it just me or did 789 just turn into a bodyguard
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 26 2010 21:23 GMT
#1404
I think the runner in flamewheel91's pic is 刘翔 (Liu Xiang), as I found another picture of Liu after winning a race with the same number on, and he looks very similar to other pictures of him. In that case, he's short distance, 110m hurdles, and is HUGE in China. Also, it was considered very tragic that he couldn't really participate in Beijing 2008 b/c of a foot injury. Not sure how that ties into the clues, but someone a few posts back said it might be helpful to ID the runner. (Ng5, I think)
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#1461
meeple's post count is all sixes. clearly he is evil and we should lynch him (until he makes another post)
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 03:45 GMT
#1478
It would make a lot of sense for a fake detective to try to get DrH lynched, but that would assume that the mafia thinks killing off the most active townie is worth surely losing the fake DT. I personally feel like it is more likely that keit is innocent, and trying to paint DrH red not because he actually has a link, but because he, like t_co, has decided that striking back at his accuser is his best chance of survival. I also think he is misguided, but that is beside the point.

At this point, I regret to say that I agree we need to lynch Dr.H. The risk of him being in the position he is in and red outweighs the risk of lynching a very active green. I'm not 100% sure that DrH is mafia, but I feel that any possibility of it is too great a risk for us to allow him to remain in the game.

Thirdly, worst comes to worst and he comes up green, we have some serious leads based on the DT who "cluechecked." Either way we'll end up with leads.

Fourthly and lastly, Medics, at least one of you guys needs to be protecting citizen, since he's the only person who is for sure on our side, and since he has all of the information in this scenario via PM's.
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 03:59 GMT
#1487
On January 27 2010 12:47 Mystlord wrote:
It's a fair case to lynch DH, but we HAVE to consider the possibility that the DT who clue checked DH is mafia. Earlier, we saw a fair case to lynch DH based off of the thin knife clue brought up by keit, but it never gained traction considering how much steam the kane]deth[ idea had. At this point, a mafia member could have thought to sow the seeds of confusion and make a plot to lynch DH.

At this point, the fact of the matter is that either keit or DoctorHelvetica is innocent. One is absolutely a townie, because we cannot have two people making such great pushes for each other to be lynched as both mafia. Therefore, the possible combinations are: mafia vs townie and townie vs townie. I personally highly doubt a townie vs townie situation because of the fact that by lynching the other, the person pushing for the lynch will almost certainly appear innocent. Therefore, I believe that we have a mafia vs townie situation.

In that line of thinking, confirming the identity of one will confirm the identity of the other. By lynching DH, we'll know keit's true colors, and by lynching keit, we'll know DH's true colors. Therefore, the question now becomes who to lynch?

My personal vote is for keit. Here's my reasoning:

If we lynch DoctorHelvetica, we lose a vital power that will almost certainly confirm whether a person is mafia or not, as well as protect a vital blue or townie (if things get that desperate). Therefore, in this situation, where we're unsure as to the guilt or innocence of either player, we have to make the decision to try and save our powers as best as possible, especially considering the fact that we have lynched no mafia. Therefore, we have a lot more to lose from lynching DoctorHelvetica and finding out that he's green/blue, versus lynching keit and finding out that he's green/blue.

One final point on this. We have to realize that at this point, we for sure for sure have at least two clues on one mafia member. We have 8 clues for 7 mafia, so we're looking for repeating themes. If there's one repeating theme that I've seen, it's almost certainly referring to the cookie monster. Whether it's the apple shoving down the throat from day 1, or the barbarous nature of either the 2nd or 3rd attack from day 2, we've seen a lot more evidence pointing to keit than to DH. Therefore, I again emphasize my vote to lynch keit.


Killing keit will not reveal Dr.H's true colors. Even though I currently suspect Dr.H, if we kill keit and he turns up green, all this shows us is that we have once again mis-analyzed the clues. It does not necessarily mean that Dr.H is mafia, anymore than any of our other incorrect lynches have proved that the people who suggested them were mafia. If we kill keit and he turns up red, that could just suggest that the Mafia decided to sacrifice one of their least active members to save their biggest, most active member, which would not be such a bad strategy.
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 04:19 GMT
#1489
Either that or he's just a bored townie and DrH is trying to get everyone to pay attention to someone else. Interesting info though meeple
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 04:51 GMT
#1499
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there be a lynch inbetween now and the double lynch, negating derfboy's argument?
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 04:56 GMT
#1501
On January 27 2010 13:53 derfboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 13:48 meeple wrote:
On January 27 2010 13:46 derfboy wrote:
On January 27 2010 13:42 meeple wrote:
^ edit??


i'm a perfectionist


Erm well you're not allowed to edit posts in this game...


whoops. i really had no idea there was that rule. sorry. hope that doesn't entail getting modkilled


It doesn't, unless you do it repetitively
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 05:06 GMT
#1505
derfboy, why do you suddenly start being active right now to defend DrH, and to instead accuse someone while admitting you don't know why you're accusing them. Seems to me to be not only suspicious, but just plain nonsensical
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
January 27 2010 05:09 GMT
#1508
On January 27 2010 14:06 Mystlord wrote:
So you're going to lynch based on the fact that my name is "close enough" to the word "mist"? I cannot see the logical connection that you're making there. This is what my name is actually referring to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst

I'm posting that link because it seems that people are stymied as to an alternative interpretation of the first half of my name.


1. We're not lynching you right now, we are possibly lynching you in the future, mainly based on your posts relative to DoctorHelvetica.

2. The clues are not based on your interpretation of your username, but on the person creating the clues' interpretation of your username.
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