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Oh and I'll do this. | ||
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Or I could, y'know, do homework. | ||
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I really can't think of a situation where a self-vote is needed. Can you help me out here? | ||
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Just for the record. Can we wait to see who the fuck is actually inactive before deciding who we are going to kill for inactivity? Word. I actually plan to play this game through. I'm really surprised it was Vivi who first said to kill me and not L, considering how often I seem to get L killed. Also isn't NemY the one that's supposed to claim medic on day one? Last time this happened the town got in a major BS argument day 1 and then won when our mafia leader ragequit because Vivi logged in 2 minutes late. Oh wait he claimed detective. Maybe this will turn out better. I guess the evidence points to killing Vivi. | ||
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1) The mafia have to play a guessing game anyway, it's just that now they know who they're guessing against. I suppose now they KNOW they're playing this game rather than knowing whether or not the game exists at all, but I don't see how that helps the town. I agree with Ace that it is extremely unlikely that there would be more than one medic in this game. If there were the mafia would have to get some powers to make up for it, and we know that's not the case. I also noticed that the medic can protect himself. That is an exceptionally powerful weapon in my opinion, and another reason why there's unlikely to be two medics in the game. As mafia, Judge could be banking on the idea that there aren't any medics in the game and using this play to waste town resources. I am interested in this list he'd put out, especially for day 1. It kind of sounds like a hit list though. "HEY MAFIA! KILL THESE! I DARE YOU!!!" 2) I really don't see how this is different with or without a list. There are always good and bad candidates for night-killing and those factors are always influenced by the power roles. A list kind of gives the mafia a guide, in your opinion anyway, as to who is the most trusted in the town. I'm really not seeing this major wrench. 3) They might do that. That'd be pretty ballsy considering that's exactly what you just said they'd do, like it's their only choice. Or this could be your way of defense through day 1, casting suspicion on anyone who even remotely calls you out. So yeah, I don't see the point, and it is hard to take your claim seriously. Best I can figure you're trying to stir the pot early to make the game more interesting. Speaking of making the game more interesting, let's talk about who to kill day 1. Well it's kind of a crapshoot right now so I oddly agree with Vivi in that we should be lynching inactives. Moreso, we should be threatening to lynch anyone who doesn't post by the end of one full day, real time. And not just post, you need to offer an opinion too. Offering an opinion on something really shouldn't be hard right now. Basically I'm giving the same warning to everyone that L gave to me and HeavOn. Contribute or die, you don't get another warning. That warning is at the end of a lot of words, so I'll say it like this. CONTRIBUTE OR DIE. YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER WARNING. | ||
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On January 06 2010 04:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:@Scamp - I think I covered your points in my responses to L, so I'm not going to re-hash them if that's cool with you. That's fine for now. I'll see if you missed anything when I'm not just on a short break. On January 06 2010 05:04 L wrote: What's more worrisome here, however, is the fact that the rules state that as a medic, you won't be told if your protection target has actually been protected, nor will they be told that they have been protected. If you're mafia, that means you can fake a 'confirmation' on yourself by stating that you protected, say, me while not hitting anyone for a night. Is the mafia allowed to not hit anyone during the night? | ||
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On January 06 2010 09:18 Malongo wrote: -I really dont see the point in RoLs post and i dont like the fact that scamp came up just 10 minutes later to support his own defence. How did RoL knew scamp wasnt inactive? Why is RoL too lazy to read tonight but has his time to half defend scamp? Maybe this is just a coincidence but since we are lynching almost on blind i like RoL. At least we can autofire at scamp if RoL flips red. I thought the point in RoL's post was pretty obvious: shouldn't we wait and see who's inactive before we target specific people for inactivity? I came on and agreed, the fact that Vivi was targeting me was just coincidence. I don't think that his post implies in any way that he knew I wasn't inactive. Also it was 20 minutes and not 10. But yeah, RoL's only posted once so far, and the point he made doesn't really make a difference in the game. A few other people have only posted once offering nothing of significance, and if this continues for much longer I say we target them. On January 06 2010 05:58 HeavOnEarth wrote: isn't that kind of risky? provided judge doesn't openly claim who he was protecting , if he listed ace and L and himself for protection, and ace was mafia, for example- ace: Oh hey guys i was protected last night lololol judge: uh no, i protected myself ace: oh ace: .. FUUUU This scenerio doesn't make any sense to me at all. I can't think of a single reason why Ace would say that if Judge isn't mafia. Now if Ace and Judge were both mafia and Judge clamed that he protected Ace, that's the play that "clears" Judge (and Ace too) that we're worried about happening. | ||
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*Off-topic* RoL I don't think you should criticize someone's spelling unless you want to be criticized for your mistakes too. So: You're = you are. Your = possessive. If you can say "you are" in place of "your" in the sentence and it makes sense, you used the wrong one. Sorry, I like to be a grammar nazi even though my spelling is atrocious. */Off-topic* Anyway, I'd like to point this out. On January 06 2010 04:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: I'm a medic though. And I'm trying to do something different because I've seen it work, I've seen this tactic in play. Besides, as odd of a defense as it is, this is nowhere near my scum meta, even if I was GF. I much prefer to push attention away from myself, because I'm prone to fuckups if I try and be too active. Some links would be nice. I'd like to see this tactic in play and see it work well. Chezinu needs to post more or he's getting my vote. I do like Zato's analysis on Malongo too so I'd like to see his response to that. I'm also keeping my eye on a few other people, hopefully they'll post today. | ||
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On January 07 2010 05:55 Ace wrote: No one has ever gotten a free pass for role claiming on Day 1 and those were almost always Detective claims. So why are we letting a Medic claim go? Because no matter what Judge really is we have the opportunity for some exceptional information. At the very least, I'm inclined to keep him around because he's got a plan he's going to put into action for better or for worse. Meanwhile there are several people who clearly aren't going to do jack shit, and it's very likely that there's at least one mafia in that group of people. I agree with what Zato said about voting for people, I just don't think there's enough on Malongo to vote for him right now. That being said, I also don't expect much to go on on day 1 either. It's now about 1PM PST. Voting ends at 8PM PST. If Malongo (also Chezinu, for that matter) doesn't post anything by 5PM PST I'm voting for him, since I'm going to be gone from 5PM onwards. | ||
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On January 07 2010 06:25 Ace wrote: what exceptional information? I really want to know this. To answer this question from way back, I have no idea what exceptional information. Judge says he's going to work his magic, that'll provide exceptional information one way or another. Perhaps I dressed up the wording too much. Anyway, I personally do not have a strong read on anybody at this point. I do not see the strength of the argument against Malongo, but if there's a tie between him and Judge at the end of the day I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him in that case. My strongest suspicion right now, however, is Mikeymoo. "Strongest suspicion" is kind of a misnomer since I don't have a strong read on anybody, but something about his posts so far have given me suspicion. I think he's being overly careful not to attract attention to himself while trying to provide some content. I will be able to get back to my computer about 20 minutes before the deadline. I'll make any necessary vote changes then. | ||
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Also: Hi NemY! The only thing I don't want is a no-lynch. I'd prefer Malongo over Judge. I think those are my only options. | ||
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I don't think I've been ultra-tight. I just haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, though my gut says Mikey. Thanks for correcting your own grammar. | ||
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On January 07 2010 13:06 Malongo wrote: you just got out of nowhere to change your vote. I got out of the gym, actually. And now that I think about it you didn't save yourself, which means you're town. Which means I fucked up. | ||
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On January 07 2010 13:25 Ace wrote: Either way I'm going to start going back through this whole debacle. But right now my top suspects: Judge, obviously ^_^ Scamp and Chezinu because of the last minute voting and flip flopping Zato-1 because he was the one who proposed lynching Malongo in the midst of the Judge debacle Yes, I would be very surprised if I wasn't heavily interrogated day 2 for my actions at the end of day one. I would like to know, however, your opinions of my decision to try to avoid a no-lynch. No one commented on this. I think that a no-lynch is worse than any lynch day one. | ||
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Judge has a plan. L mentioned something about confirming Judge. Ace is going to go apeshit. And Zato's post above mine is quite curious. | ||
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1) It's easy as hell to confirm. 2) No GF is going to choose Vig as his cover. 3) As long as the Vig uses his power the night after he claims, there really isn't any downside to the town. The only thing it affects as far as I can tell is that mafia are going to be more careful this day to avoid being the target. | ||
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He is right that Judge hasn't convinced anyone yet. I thought there was supposed to be a flurry of activity and fun guessing games. But the only person who's posted a list is dead. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 05:19 HeavOnEarth wrote: Hello. Reading posts + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 05:46 HeavOnEarth wrote: so a medic claim short of a DT role-check i don't see how you can be confirmed, and that could barely qualify as concrete evidence regardless , seeing how you openly claimed. so obviously im missing out on your plan , as the rest of the town. why would you keep this information/plan hidden ? also, this, ? i suggest if there is another medic , they counterclaim. the odds of there being 2 medics in a ~11-12 player game is substantial. the fact that you posted this statement is rather godfatherly. + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 05:58 HeavOnEarth wrote: isn't that kind of risky? provided judge doesn't openly claim who he was protecting , if he listed ace and L and himself for protection, and ace was mafia, for example- ace: Oh hey guys i was protected last night lololol judge: uh no, i protected myself ace: oh ace: .. FUUUU + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 06:12 HeavOnEarth wrote: Yeeh. Vet or liar. the point was i didn't see how mafia could really "fake" a confirmation without running risks of being caught. particularly high ones + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 06:21 HeavOnEarth wrote: Yeah, but is the costs of holding a hit really worth it ? Considering its a smallish 11-12 player game, wouldn't the mafia be better off killing someone ASAP ? + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 06:24 HeavOnEarth wrote: The way i see it is, either a) you get someone killed now, hopefully a blue, or a good townie, - destroys their possible blue abilities - limits town leadership OR b) you play it smooth and try to get that extra kill anyways, AND make town waste a lynch but also it could backfire and you get nothing. choice A looks a lot better to me if i was mafia + Show Spoiler + On January 06 2010 14:57 HeavOnEarth wrote: i believe he's referring to your first post where u shit on 1/2 the town ^_^ + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 09:13 HeavOnEarth wrote: Were you gonna make a medic list or something judge? + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 09:36 HeavOnEarth wrote: ^ well zato and some others have made posts, but i was just asking mostly because i wanted his opinion + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 10:18 HeavOnEarth wrote: Now, assuming Judge is blue, i made this little list. Obviously this is just to offer up my thoughts/and summarize the thread, moreso, then actual concrete accusations, because , at least to me, there aren't any. 1. RebirthOfLeGend - obv. against judge , posts a lot of irrelevant info. about previous games. red 2. Ace - likewise, find it funny they agree with each other for once(not like, omg fish funny, just funny in general  ) red3. L green 4. vx70GTOJudgexv blue 5. Scamp - usually quiet when mafia, probably quiet if given a blue role as well. green 6. Zato-1 green 7. Chezinu - i dont see why he wouldn't keep up with his masquerade-ish style of posting if given a blue/red role therefore green 8. nemY - makes a case against judge red + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 04:21 nemY wrote: My Problem with Judge was posted in the previous Mini-Mafia game here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99804¤tpage=20 Now Judge specifically dismisses the idea of a anyone publicly roleclaiming and now he wants us to believe that it's ok with him? Are you suppose to be an exception to your own rule? You say you have a fail-safe plan? This game isn't designed to have fail-safe 100% guaranteed plans. Besides that, the track record with anybody publicly role-claiming before night one is zilch I believe (myself included). All they do is start needless chaos and mayhem (which is always in the best interests of the mafia). The best method for reducing this needless drama is getting rid of them early. This is why I'm voting to lynch Judge. 9. HeavOnEarth - seems to be the general consensus- green 10. Vivi57 - points out inactivity and gives some information in past games referring to scamp, also used the term +EV so <3 green 12. Mikeymoo - seems to be genuinely busy green 13. Malongo - reason im making this post, seems green to me  green+ Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 10:31 HeavOnEarth wrote: If anyone else wants it : judge's posting history. gonna read/review offer thoughts in a bit + Show Spoiler [Judge] + + Show Spoiler [1] + On January 05 2010 17:00 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Hmm.. No clues, and no majority lynches make for an awkward D1. However, I have a plan. I AM A MEDIC. Stop. Read. Let it sink in. I just openly claimed to start this game off. Other medics (if you exist), stay in hiding. Why? 1) I can be more effective this way. First, I can be confirmed rather easily with this done. That will come on Day 2, but I can be. Second, it allows me to work in the open and play with mafia's head. I can make my own list towards the end of each day and force mafia to play a guessing game as to who on the list I will protect, if I will actually protect anyone from that list, or if it is worth it to try and kill me and will I protect myself. 2) As stated above, it will throw a major wrench into the mafias night-actions. They will not know if they are safe to try and kill me, or one of my targets. They don't know if there are other medics either who can protect me and/or my targets. 3) Mafia is now going to push to get me killed, either very boldly or subtly, via a lynch. This will give us a pool to work with of potential suspects. + Show Spoiler [2] + On January 06 2010 04:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Difference here is the fact that I know what I'm doing here. [1] - We'll discuss protection options as the day draws near an end. I'm leaning towards L or Ace tonight, depending on how each plays. [2] - I think we're at 12 (9 & 3) and this should be full reveal, not limited flip. It does a number of things - it can provide a confirmed townie which is the worst possible thing for mafia to have to go up against, because it's someone that no matter what, they cannot push a lynch on, and worst of all - I'm not one of the top players in the game, so I'm not someone they want to waste a NK on either. Even if I'm barking up the completely wrong tree they have to try and kill me because they can't get me lynched once I'm confirmed. It forces mafia to play a guessing game. Sure, they had to play one before, but it was minimized. Now, they have to try and outguess the entire town. I can ask the town directly - who do we want to keep protected tonight and form a list. Mafia players will either have to sacrifice a potential target and put him up on the list or out themselves with a ridiculous choice and/or not post at all. Then at night they have to out-guess me in a wonderful game of who the fuck will I protect. Will I protect one of the targets offered up? Will I protect myself? Which of the targets will I protect. Doctor can be a much more powerful role out in the open. I wouldn't direct a vig to hit anyone and protect that, because our vigs are one-shot. There are later plans for any vigs. Regarding the DT, I have a plan for any potential DTs we have, but that steps in on D2. I'm a medic though. And I'm trying to do something different because I've seen it work, I've seen this tactic in play. Besides, as odd of a defense as it is, this is nowhere near my scum meta, even if I was GF. I much prefer to push attention away from myself, because I'm prone to fuckups if I try and be too active. The ability to be a confirmed townie and force mafia to adapt uncomfortably. The ability to force mafia into a guessing game. The ability to bring the town together and become a town leader here. It does seem odd that no one is talking about it. I can protect myself. That was the kicker. It might not make sense for there to be two medics, but there very well could be. We don't know, and I don't try and out-guess the mod, no matter what the most likely scenario of "who should be scum" or "Why would he do this". @Scamp - I think I covered your points in my responses to L, so I'm not going to re-hash them if that's cool with you. Also, for a kill, I say if he doesn't really put effort into it, Chezinu should be the day 1 lynch. No matter what he flips, it's a win for town. + Show Spoiler [3] + On January 06 2010 08:28 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Or I'm a medic. And because everyone wants to know: Yes, the plan does involve a DT R/C on me. Look. This play out-and-out doesn't make sense for mafia to do, even as GF, because of the doubt you all have. I'm pretty much painting a big target on myself here. If I'm the GF, or even just lowly mafia, I am one of 3 members and I would be putting a third of the team on the line for what mafia would gain very little from. If I'm GF, I'm putting myself more on the line, but I'm neither. I'm a medic. Actually, I read it first used in a 12 man closed setup. No clue as to whether a GF was there or not. Could have been two medics, could have been 5. Nothing was known. This is semi-open which makes it just as effective. Why didn't I use a mouth or pretend to be a mouth? If I used a mouth, I could easily out myself to mafia and my mouth could be mafia providing a plethora of problems. If I pretended to be a mouth, there could be the problem of "He might be mafia." and then I would be outed as medic sooner or later, leading to questions why I chose to fake using a mouth. Actually, it isn't because night roles can't act yet, it's because I'm keeping mafia on their toes. I wasn't going to claim any confirmation through a protection. I was going to wait until just before day ended and bark some orders, matter of fact. Also, in a setup like this, as a scum-gambit to false claim doc and fake confirmation there is no major gain. BTW, you're catching on with the last part - none of my actions fit the profile of a medic, which can cause people to question the veracity. I am the medic, but how much are the mafia going to believe that? The plan works in a few parts. The first part is the claim. The second part is making it through the day and establishing a plan for the night in terms of protections. Third part involves a DT rolechecking me. Day 2 I will explain at the beginning of Day 2. If I lay out the entire plan right now, the plan is lost. + Show Spoiler [4] + On January 06 2010 09:16 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Touche. Clarification: I could easily pick a mafioso as my mouth, and all information would flow through him, and thus to others. Generally, a mouth this early on is stupid. Is it the greatest position to leave me out in the open today? No. But I don't have to worry about going to a potential mouth, PMing him and having him not come forward with the information. + Show Spoiler [5] + On January 07 2010 03:54 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Unfortunately the town does not see the benefits of my maneuver, but you will in time. Get me through to tomorrow and this game will be very much in our control. Stop asking questions about the plan, because the more I lay out now, the less effective it is. Right now it is 9 hours to deadline, and a slew of people have decided to go under. Let's figure out which one of them is going to be a lynch candidate tonight, and at 10:50 PM EST I will lay out the night phase of my plan for you all to see. I've got a pretty good feeling that this is going to catch one mafia tonight, if you just let me work my magic. + Show Spoiler [6] + On January 07 2010 04:25 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: nemY - I honestly forgot about that. I also hadn't seen this plan in use when I had made that post, fwiw. That post was some 5 months ago. I've played about 9 games since then and read plenty more. And this is a different plan from that, trust me :D Scamp, I'm trying to remember the game # of where I last saw it used, when I do I'll link it. + Show Spoiler [7] + On January 07 2010 04:30 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Wow. You guys are fucking retarded. Do I have to spell out EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ACTION for you? Because I might as well before the lynch, if you plan on killing me tonight - let me know so I can explain how this would've worked. + Show Spoiler [8] + On January 07 2010 04:30 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: BTW - Ace is mafia, calling it now. + Show Spoiler [9] + On January 07 2010 08:32 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: General responses: I've said part of it before. The first objective of the claim was to allow me to work out in the open, scare scum and also because I do have a plan. The second objective is to put myself in a position to lead the town in the right direction, because otherwise we'd be voting to no-lynch today, which on Day 1 is an awful play. You think it's scummy that I don't give out every detail of my plan? That's great. Unfortunately, as I've re-iterated before and I'll do again, giving out every detail of my plan makes it useless. Let me help you all out and put this claim in perspective from both points of view: From a Town-aligned point of view: I am a medic. I can sit back, hope not to draw too much attention to me during the day or the night and try and protect the right hits. OR I can come out in the open and claim. Thus, the mafia is now wondering a myriad of things. Am I the real medic? Am I bluffing? Can they hit me successfully? Will I protect the people I list? Will they hit the one I protect? If he's not the medic, we'll be able to get him lynched, but if he is, we might not. Do we try and kill him at night? Now I have one-up on the mafia. I don't need to outguess them. I'll protect who I choose to and wait. If you think a medic's only use is to absorb kills, you're dead wrong. From a scum-aligned point of view: I am mafia. I can sit back, let town go at themselves, maybe push for a no-lynch on D1 and help us just effortlessly pick people off. Or I can claim to be a medic. I can pass on a night-kill to try and confirm myself, but people might see through that. Or I can try and waste a DT check, but they might not buy into that either. When I don't die and other people start dying, I will be questioned. This isn't even WIFOM here, there is just no gain from a scum perspective. + Show Spoiler [10] + On January 07 2010 09:11 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: It was just a possible way for mafia to try and confirm themselves being the medic. Obviously the vet throws it off as does the no confirmation via PM of a save. + Show Spoiler [11] + On January 07 2010 09:18 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: There's still some 4 hours left to the day, I will though. Any input from players on who I should protect from the town? + Show Spoiler [12] + On January 07 2010 09:31 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: So far Ace, L, RoL, mikey, Scamp and Zato have put forth discussion and not been putting up fluff. Chez hasn't put up much and I don't like that most recent post, Malongo put in a major bullshit go with the flow post and nemY has had minimal posting. Vivi hasn't really said much and is voting Mikey for some reason which he neglected to elaborate on. HoE has very few posts. Ace reads as mafia to me, and his opposition on malongo sounds like he's trying to sway town away from lynching who he thinks is a townie. Two motivations: 1 - he knows malongo is a townie and is trying to earn town credit by pulling off of that lynch and voicing opposition. 2 - Malongo is his mafia buddy and he doesn't want him dead. L, Zato, Mikey and Scamp read town aligned to me, promoting decent discussion and trying to understand something. Not overly trusting or buddying, but not too paranoid. RoL is odd. He seemed to react very emotionally to the claim, which to me is generally a town-tell. But he hasn't really tried to wrap his head around anything, which to me is generally a scum-tell. Null-read atm. The rest are null-reads as well. Except Malongo. He reads mafia. + Show Spoiler [13] + On January 07 2010 09:39 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: I originally voted you to force a no-lynch and save my sorry ass from being idiot-lynched. Now I'm voting you because your one "real" post in the thread reeked of active lurking, a wonderful scum tactic, of coming in and providing nothing but fluff and lack of contribution to the game. You barely put anything new on the table, then disappeared for a lovely 24 hours. You come back and again provide nothing new to the discussion, and get all OMGUS on me for calling you out. + Show Spoiler [14] + On January 07 2010 09:40 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: HoE, does that answer your post? + Show Spoiler [15] + On January 07 2010 09:46 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: The first part still reeks of anti-town nature at minimum, mafia nature more likely. The second part - huh? + Show Spoiler [16] + On January 07 2010 09:47 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: BTW, Ace, might want to work on getting that tunnel vision checked out. + Show Spoiler [17] + On January 07 2010 09:52 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Generally, a player voicing opposition to a bandwagon with little case is a mafia member trying to either prevent his partner from being lynched or trying to get townie credit by opposing a wagon on a townie. This is my experience. Also, I see no reason to switch to RoL at the moment. He's a null read to me. + Show Spoiler [18] + On January 07 2010 10:00 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: I almost never see this. One example does not justify a meta defense. + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2010 11:15 HeavOnEarth wrote: it wasn't meant for accusations RoL- you missed the point entirely =/ + Show Spoiler + | ||
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L is okay with Chezinu's thoughts, and is relying on someone else to come up with something better. Zato was pretty proactive day 1 then disappeared. Ace isn't mad at anyone day 2, apparently. And RoL is the most active. Something is most definitely wrong. Well anyway even if Mikey and Chez are both townies and we kill them both and the mafia gets one more kill, we'll have 7 people left with 3 mafia. MYLO at the worst. But still, I just can't shake the feeling that there's something missing. | ||
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I don't know why people keep including L on their medic list even when he doesn't do anything. Incognito did the same thing the last game I was in. I don't suspect him as strongly as I did the last game but I certainly don't see the unambiguous town-aligned posting. My strongest suspicion right now lies with Ace. Ace was supposed to interrogate those responsible for the Malongo lynch and he made it very clear that he was going to do so, but he never did. So the way I see it he's either mafia or a townie that doesn't care anymore. I don't see a reason to keep him around. I was thinking that either L or Ace has to be mafia, based on the way they're acting. It could be that they're both town-aligned, but they aren't trying to kill each other so I think that option is out. Ace isn't getting himself killed at all, so I'm suspicious. L could be posting just enough to look active and town-aligned, mostly asking easy questions and commenting on plans. Not as suspicious as last game, but certainly not unquestionably town. | ||
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Time to wait and see how this night turns out. | ||
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This just reeks of terrible mafia play, and somehow it's not right. But hey, we'll see more soon. | ||
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I thought after day one things were going to get difficult. | ||
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In my opinion it wasn't too difficult to find Mikey, Ace, and Nemy this game. | ||
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