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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 15 2009 11:31 GMT
#8
Lynch Caller he's already suspicious!!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 17:50:04
October 19 2009 17:49 GMT
#43
On October 18 2009 09:10 Ver wrote:
Okay so we have 20 people so far. I'm waiting on replies from:

MBH
Cam
Plexa
SoG
Mynock
0cz3c
Empyrean
Malongo
LTT
FS



Am I the only person that's hoping 0cz3c will not read his inbox in time for the game to start so we will be less confused when the game starts?

lol @ above post irony...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 21 2009 12:45 GMT
#169
On October 21 2009 14:43 Ace wrote:
*yawn*

man it's that time again already?

<---running for mayor

<---going back to sleep


Should we vote for you so you don't have a temper tantrum this time?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 21 2009 21:47 GMT
#194
Knowing the people that play/set up these games after playing about 7 mafia games they probably randomly assigned roles. It's a terrible idea to assume all the vets get the mafia roles. More than typically there is a pretty even split, and more or less the veterans get the townie-aligned roles.

How do you gauge who's a "veteran" anyway?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 11:32 GMT
#324
On October 22 2009 16:34 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey Amber[Light], what are your reasons for voting caller other than to move the game along?


I don't want to be caught in the shitstorm when the two major elected officials end up killing people that voted for the opposite party. Plus I don't want to be responsible for electing someone the town ends up upset about.

I think all of the candidates are shitty, by the way.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 11:33 GMT
#325
You guys are aware that we're electing people for the mayorial and pardoner position that have absolutely no history of showing any kind of leadership in these games? In a game where we have no clues and requires a good strategy to win, I'd rather have a leader than someone who just follows.

That's just me though.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 11:34 GMT
#326
Fucking brain!!!!!! ASDF it's too slow this morning!

I was going to run this game, but since this is a game where it's 100% behavioral analysis I didn't think I would be good for the job. And I by far do not consider myself a leader in these games (refer to the post above this).
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 16:00 GMT
#335
On October 22 2009 23:27 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 19:44 Shikyo wrote:
On October 22 2009 18:13 Ace wrote:
As for those of you thinking mafia usually just sit back and let shit happen - lol. That only works when the town is doing enough to kill themselves for you. Last time I was on the Mafia side I was actively planning out scenarios with Pyrr so we could stay a step ahead.

Don't kill active, contributing players. Even if you think Tricode is worthless right now with no clues to go on killing actives will hurt even more at this point.

Foolishness really is bad, and so is Shikyo based on that other game with JeeJee (lol). No one in their right mind would count the smurf game as credible to someone playing well since that entire game was a big cluster fuck of nonsense and half the people not even really trying.

And you really are bad based on the game where the town lynched their electees, right?


huh? whats that? pulling random games I don't even remember out of your ass to try and sound credible? It's ok, you're bad. You'll get better eventually when you stop doing things like reading posts by guys named Foolishness and especially anyone named Vivi57.


Why are you discrediting other players? That's not nice.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 18:42 GMT
#360
On October 23 2009 01:49 Shikyo wrote:
Oh right, I don't think WC8 has posted anything other thant the wine drinking comment. I don't think he's voted either.


Where's this wine you speak of and why do I not have a glass or box of?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 22 2009 18:44 GMT
#361
On October 23 2009 01:09 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 20:32 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On October 22 2009 16:34 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey Amber[Light], what are your reasons for voting caller other than to move the game along?


I don't want to be caught in the shitstorm when the two major elected officials end up killing people that voted for the opposite party. Plus I don't want to be responsible for electing someone the town ends up upset about.

I think all of the candidates are shitty, by the way.

You realize that despite saying you don't want to get caught in the shitstorm, the fact that caller is going to kill pyrr puts you straight in the middle of said shitstorm, right? Pretty shaky reasoning here.


Then kill me if you think what he does is suspicious.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 23 2009 04:12 GMT
#500
On October 23 2009 09:59 SugiuraMidori wrote:
1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before
5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's.
6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here.
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game?
9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red
10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia.
11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche.
12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red
13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart.
14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red.
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- dead man walking
19. Redtooth
20. Heavonearth
21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either)

This is my first list of suspects that I have gathered from reading all the posts up till now (except for the lamers and their poetry which I refuse to read from how poor it is).
List is of course incomplete.. and blue and green are potentially swappable.

Did my best at picking out the four reds, the other people would fall as either blue or green, and I'll refine the list later.[Note]: This is what I've gathered just from reading the grammar and methods of peoples speech patterns.


So let me get this straight.

The townies are all more-or-less acting like retards to confuse the rest of the town.
The mafia are all acting very calmly to try and assist the town in any way to find the mafia. These mafia members may also be able to find the actual mafia members in this game.
And the blues... ... I'm not going to touch this right now lol
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 23 2009 18:40 GMT
#554
On October 24 2009 03:16 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Shikyo has been caught
now he is getting pissed off
that he might get lynched



(haiku's > *)


i was waiting for someone to toss up a haiku
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 24 2009 16:36 GMT
#598
On October 25 2009 00:55 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 00:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Alright can someone explain what I should do with the BG names and why? This new bg mechanic is baffling.

Don't give them to mafia, remember that at least one BG is likely to be mafia, and also it might be a good idea to give the names to a person who wasn't elected in the case all the BGs were mafia and you and Ace were killed. Then you give us that player's name(the one you told to). If you and Ace die tonight or any other night the BGs are alive, that person gives us the names of the BGs and we get 2 mafia. If he's mafia and won't give names of the BGs, we kill him and get one mafia even then.

If the person you told to and announced publicly gets killed by mafia, you tell the names of BGs to another person and publicly announce his name as well.


Any complaints?


Lets follow this plan it's foolproof!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 24 2009 16:37 GMT
#599
Obviously if you weren't elected mayor or pardoner you can't be mafia because mafia are capable of swaying the votes so they would make sure that non-mafia didn't get elected.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 24 2009 17:31 GMT
#607
On October 25 2009 02:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ace the Vet plan as I proposed was two prong, you said yourself that a sane DT becomes very powerful in this game. What we are aiming for is this. Sane DT's and an established blue.

We now have checks available, so what we are trying to do is establish DT sanity while putting the vet plan in motion. The first thing we do is select a lynch candidate NOW. Motbob is IA because his grandfather died, and statistically there is about a 3/4th chance he is either red or blue.

Tomorrow unless we somehow get a better candidate we lynch motbob. Now we have the checks confirmed. If Motbob turns green/red we get the DT information on their sanity and it is narrowed down to two.

Then as night falls again we have the DT's ability to role check again and the Vet plan comes into play. When they check the "Vet" he should be blue, so now we have 2 colors and the DT's now know their sanity and we have an established blue.

Now the issue you could see is IF Motbob is blue then what? Then we proceed with the plan. The only issue now is the DT's sanity is not confirmed, however then the "Vet" is guaranteed to be blue or godfather. This is because when they check the "vet" he should come back exactly how they saw Motbob or something is up.

In relation to the godfather being an issue, its a dumb move. If the GF fakes being the Vet we kill both the actual vet and the godfather and are down one mafia, which is an exchange I am sure we are willing to make.

Any questions?



lol we don't know how many people are blue.

Though there is a 4/20 chance he can be red....statstically of course...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 25 2009 01:55 GMT
#662
how is he supposed to trust any of you morons anyway. You guys thought foolishness was mafia oh about 20 pages ago.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 25 2009 04:36 GMT
#689
Lol the fact that we're not lynching you after pardoning someone who's inactive anyway makes no sense. Everybody is treading lightly around you Ace, and you come through with this elaborate post, yet how can we believe anything.

Go ahead and lynch me. Maybe it will open some peoples eyes in this game.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 25 2009 14:17 GMT
#729
Pyrr please don't fall into the bullshit going on in this thread. It's obvious that Ace is bullshitting us. He was able to determine his sanity so easily? He also managed to role-check someone so blindly that he landed the paramedic? He then posted that information in the thread? And after all that, he goes ahead and accuses both you and I and anyone else that has been against him, yet we let him live. And then Ace, you decide to tl;dr my post? Says you're not really an effective pardoner, so we should lynch you, because no one will touch you otherwise.

Here's what I see through Ace's behavior:

Motbob must be mafia. Ace pardoned someone for no reason, and even more importantly, this guy is "inactive." Well WTF Ace we have always killed someone because of activity on the first day, why change that now? He's useless to the town if you keep him alive and inactive, and I'm sure Qatol and Ver would have preferred if you didn't do that, but there must be a reason they allowed you to pardon him, he needs to stay alive for the mafia KP. Without him the mafia cannot succeed. Even if they mod-killed them, which I'm surprised they're not doing, the would be down one mafia member and one lynch away from having 1 KP per night.

Ace is probably mafia. You used the pardoner ability when, in most games played here, we have NEVER used the pardoner ability. In fact, the one time the pardoner role was used IIRC, that pardoner was mafia and he was protecting a fellow mafia member. So if we lynch you, we can confirm that Motbob is red... and maybe one other person.

You decided that vx70GTOJudgexv was a paramedic. That's a good choice to make a fake claim. I mean all you have to do is tell Judge to protect someone and instead you just don't kill them, makes it look like he's doing good. Then when the town numbers dwindle he just turns sides. It's a good plan, really. What would be better is if you guys made w8c the godfather, and then he could pick the paramedic role, so when we "don't believe you," we can just waste a role-check on him and see he's a "medic."

Since the other two depend on your survival and you won't let us go through with the motbob plan, we should lynch you. The town deserves to know if you actually have a plan inside of your head or if you were saving one of your own.

EVERYONE should vote to lynch ACE today. This gives us valuable information about at least four other townies! (Motbob, Judge, myself, pyrr and anyone else Ace has ridiculed in this game) We do not need the pardoner role to win this!

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 25 2009 18:52 GMT
#752
On October 26 2009 03:20 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 23:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Even if they mod-killed them, which I'm surprised they're not doing

Umm modkills are based on voting. Last time I checked motbob voted. The only one in danger of being modkilled right now is scamp because he didn't submit his vote in time.


I mean that we are allowing someone who can't participate 100% in this game to keep playing. It's not so much you guys its Ace for allowing motbob to stay alive, and for what reason?

You guys voting for judge is terrible. Mafia will kill him if he's blue tonight anyway, why waste a lynch? We will not gain sufficient knowledge about anyone else if we kill him. Ace needs to be lynched tonight.

Also think about my post last page, if Judge is really mafia, Ace will just pardon him and we will be yet another two votes behind come tomorrow.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 00:08 GMT
#768
You know it's really odd that your behavior as a pardoner changed between this game and mafia VIII. What happened in that game Ace? We're you too busy being a retard to save infinity on day 1?

Explain why all of a sudden you've changed personalities. This is Ace mafia mode. The elaborate posts. The accusations based upon our questioning. This is the Ace we all know and love, because you think you're doing the town a favor with the long posts and the finger pointing. You're not running around claiming you want a modkill, and I appreciate what you're doing, but I really think it's a load of bullshit..

You're coming up with this elaborate scheme that by day 3 might show us what path we need to take, yet you can't even come up with a lynch candidate for today. You seem pretty apathetic towards what we need to do tonight, as though the town can deal with the loss of one of us retards. You want to lynch me, ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L... but only because we disagree with you. You haven't got a plan for how we're supposed to get a mafia member tonight. You have a plan to fuck the town in two more days.

I'm sticking by my vote Ace. You haven't convinced me that you're helping anybody this game other than yourself and three other people. And I have listened to you in the past. I've gone with some things you've proposed, but because they have immediate action and there's a network of townies behind it. There's so many skeptics in this thread it seriously leads me to believe that there is not a giant behind-the-scenes network. There are probably a few, I'm sure that group of the same 5 people is sitting somewhere discussing the game, and it will be those few that try and lynch one of the people you've accused today.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 03:55 GMT
#793
On October 26 2009 12:13 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 12:09 Ace wrote:
meh, you can go ahead and modkill me then. If people are going to complain about the way some random men/women on the internet are talking to them rather than read the posts I'd rather not be part of this.

There is a difference between arguing for your plans/point of view and flaming the crap out of anyone who posts in the thread. I don't see why you can't make the same arguments without saying stuff like: "Every game I've got a fanclub of guys trying to ride my 9inch and Amber returned just for it this game. Gotta love it." Are you saying that you can't post civilly at all and need us to modkill you because you are incapable of showing a little common sense when posting?

I mean, it isn't like you would get away with the kind of stuff you are saying anywhere else on the site. Why can't you use the same kind of restraint you use there when posting in the mafia game?


For the record I didn't complain
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 13:25 GMT
#811
On October 26 2009 16:12 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 09:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:

You're coming up with this elaborate scheme that by day 3 might show us what path we need to take, yet you can't even come up with a lynch candidate for today. You seem pretty apathetic towards what we need to do tonight, as though the town can deal with the loss of one of us retards. You want to lynch me, ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L... but only because we disagree with you.


I don't recall Ace saying he wanted to really lynch you guys. But my memory is fuzzy on it...maybe ROL but i don't recall to much of Ace actually suggesting or saying we should lynch any of you.

Only some suspicion or giving his opinion about your abilities.


He hasn't proposed a very strong lynch candidate tonight.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 17:08 GMT
#814
On October 27 2009 02:02 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2009 22:25 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On October 26 2009 16:12 Tricode wrote:
On October 26 2009 09:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:

You're coming up with this elaborate scheme that by day 3 might show us what path we need to take, yet you can't even come up with a lynch candidate for today. You seem pretty apathetic towards what we need to do tonight, as though the town can deal with the loss of one of us retards. You want to lynch me, ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L... but only because we disagree with you.


I don't recall Ace saying he wanted to really lynch you guys. But my memory is fuzzy on it...maybe ROL but i don't recall to much of Ace actually suggesting or saying we should lynch any of you.

Only some suspicion or giving his opinion about your abilities.


He hasn't proposed a very strong lynch candidate tonight.


That has nothing to do with what you said or claimed.


explain?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 17:27 GMT
#817
On October 27 2009 02:24 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2009 02:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On October 27 2009 02:02 Tricode wrote:
On October 26 2009 22:25 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On October 26 2009 16:12 Tricode wrote:
On October 26 2009 09:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:

You're coming up with this elaborate scheme that by day 3 might show us what path we need to take, yet you can't even come up with a lynch candidate for today. You seem pretty apathetic towards what we need to do tonight, as though the town can deal with the loss of one of us retards. You want to lynch me, ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L... but only because we disagree with you.


I don't recall Ace saying he wanted to really lynch you guys. But my memory is fuzzy on it...maybe ROL but i don't recall to much of Ace actually suggesting or saying we should lynch any of you.

Only some suspicion or giving his opinion about your abilities.


He hasn't proposed a very strong lynch candidate tonight.


That has nothing to do with what you said or claimed.


explain?


You said he wants to lynch ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L, but I pointed out that isn't true.

Then you quote what i said.

Why bother even quoting me calling you out on you making up stuff that Ace never said.

Then except ignore it by saying he "never proposed a lynch candidate".

What does that have to do with your previous statement about him wanting him to have you guys lynched? Nothing.



If you were ace on the previous page, who would you like the see lynched. It's obvious he wants to see all of us dead before he gets lynched.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 26 2009 23:12 GMT
#837
On October 27 2009 08:09 Ace wrote:
and I find it funny Shikyo is so stupid to think I'd fake Dt, so we can lynch Judge who could be mafia so I could "trick the town". Yes, I'd kill 1 of only 4 people on my team for that. Brilliant Shikyo. Epic really.


Ace your plan is very elaborate on the mafia side. Trust me what you did was ingenious, thats all I need to say.

I will say this to the people abstaining:

If I die because of apathy because mafia sways votes over Ace... well seriously fuck you all for not listening sooner.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 27 2009 11:04 GMT
#884
On October 27 2009 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2009 13:57 L wrote:
On October 27 2009 12:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
with this last lynch, we are in a pinch
three analysists down, and with a noose we dropped a crown
with only a few analysists who still remain, the town will lean on them like a cane

With the mafia most likely in those few, we might as well bow our heads in a pew

May I suggest you stop posting like this is some kindergarten rhyme time and do some of the aforementioned analysis then? You aren't a second rate player, why are you on the sidelines?


because my specialty was removed from the game, so instead im opting to be lame
I however have given insight, in how to win this fight
yes its all in rhyme, but its not like being annoyings a crime


Oh man Ver/Qatol forgot the town idiot role what are we supposed to do now that BloodC0bbler can't play as his favorite role and has to be a boring townie.

womp womp wommmmmmmmmmmp
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 28 2009 01:10 GMT
#914
On October 28 2009 09:38 SugiuraMidori wrote:
So for anyone, like L, that doesn't know why I place up those lists of colored folk is for the benefit of the entire town. Yes it can give away things to the mafia as well, but we can always remember that I'm not going to be 100% on the list (unless I get red again).

The list is formed from my reading of how people talk in their posts, and how grammar is being used (hence the rhyme posts were a waste of time to analyze, same for flaming). What I try to do is gather a reasonable hint on who the town needs to lynch, not that, as we've clearly noticed, anyone follows me since I'm not some fancy "Vet" player.

Following the clues as best I can I also make an effort to group people by how they act with each other as well, which I could have used the flaming posts to read, but that was lamesauce anyhow. That is why I can easily group a lot of the folk as either green or blue, and what I feel like are reds (as well as what others are saying if my analysis is incomplete).

If you do notice my first one, I listed Foolish as non-red and Caller as red... so I made a mistake there, but at least I wasn't fool enough to lynch Ace when I could tell he wasn't lying his butt off to fake y'all out (as if he was red).

However, those that voted for Ace are suspect in two ways, they knew what I knew (that Ace was truthful and was a DT and are red and wanted him gone) or they were bigots ... I'd say there were some that didn't want to read his shit anymore, but I didn't vote for him, so that's not as valid. ;P


To be honest that was probably the towns error and the mafia sat back and watched everything happen. That's exactly what we did in mafia VII when it was Ace/Ver vs. neMy and the moron-parade.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 28 2009 01:11 GMT
#915
VII or VIII I forgot I'm thinking it was VIII sorry bout that ;O
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 28 2009 02:05 GMT
#919
incognito always dies silently

NICE work DreamFlower. I already suspected the judge to be mafia but thanks for throwing a bomb on him and idk how you figured out Ace's sanity... if it was all luck thats cool too
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 28 2009 14:04 GMT
#981
On October 28 2009 18:10 Scamp wrote:
I have a question for Amber[Light]. What is your opinion of Motbob, Judge, Myself, and Pyrr?


If you looked back a few pages you could tell that I originally thought Judge and Motbob were mafia because they were working with Ace (whom I suspected). When Ace died I was unsure how to take his rolecheck for Judge and in my eyes it was highly probable that he was not actually a paramedic, but I honestly thought he was a townie.

Motbob is still suspicious to me, only because his inactivity did bother me a bit. I understand his grandfather died, but there's still something that's bothering me. Either he's a blue who Qatol needed a night action from or he was a red who had a really good excuse not to post. I really wish we knew more information about him and why Ace saved him. If anyone actually knew why he pardoned him please tell us.

Up until last night I would have said Pyrr is not mafia. I trust him a lot this game so I am not sure if I believe he's not mafia because of my insane amount of trust in him, or because he's been taking proper steps to help the town. Honestly the confirmation kill would have been to lynch Motbob to figure this out. They both can't be mafia if Pyrr wanted to lynch him on Day 1. It also seems unlikely that Pyrr wanted to lynch motbob and then told Ace to pardon him because they didn't seem to work together at all.

Scamp I can't gauge whether you're a townie or mafia. Everyone in this game is connected to another player depending on who they accuse, who they vote for, and how they post. It's not good if you have so few posts that are neutral. It doesn't give us any reading on you.

I voted for Vivi57 for the lynch simply because I'm going to allow someone else make the call today. I'll admit I fucked up pushing for Ace yesterday, but I took a path that the town had taken in the past with RCing Detectives.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 14:21 GMT
#1010
I think the recent votes for L is pretty laughable. I think people tried to bandwagon thinking Qatol meant 10 KST this morning
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 14:48 GMT
#1014
On October 29 2009 23:46 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2009 23:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think the recent votes for L is pretty laughable. I think people tried to bandwagon thinking Qatol meant 10 KST this morning


Out of respect of the organizers who have asked us to refrain from personal attacks, I will only say that this thought is exceptionally retarded.

Also Ace thought you were mafia and Ace is never wrong.


With that logic L and I must be mafia.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 14:50 GMT
#1015
And I must be retarded since the three of you decided it would be a good idea to go ahead and vote for L despite the lack of discussion. Last night when I went to sleep the vote seemed to be Vivi vs. Chez vs. Redtooth and now you want to throw in L too? One day at a time bro we'll get to everyone on the list don't worry.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 15:22 GMT
#1019
On October 30 2009 00:07 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2009 23:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
And I must be retarded since the three of you decided it would be a good idea to go ahead and vote for L despite the lack of discussion. Last night when I went to sleep the vote seemed to be Vivi vs. Chez vs. Redtooth and now you want to throw in L too? One day at a time bro we'll get to everyone on the list don't worry.


Hey I didn't call you retarded. Just the thought of a bandwagon of not enough people before a mistaken deadline even though that's been constant throughout the whole game.

I don't know what you're trying to pull here but I posted up my reasoning quite clearly. Please point me to the excellent discussion on Vivi that prompted you to vote for him.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 23:04 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I voted for Vivi57 for the lynch simply because I'm going to allow someone else make the call today. I'll admit I fucked up pushing for Ace yesterday, but I took a path that the town had taken in the past with RCing Detectives.


And that someone is, apparently, SugiuraMidori. So why does SugiuraMidori get to make the call for you?


Up until today she's put more effort into this game than you did. All of a sudden you want to analyze the town and actually take part in discussion. Voting for Vivi is more than just "I'm following sugiura," but when you think about it, let's take out of the people that aren't doing much to contribute. These people are worse than inactives, and sometimes mafia will have about 50% of their team play the inactive role so they stay under the radar. This is such a typical case especially when the mayor and pardoner are not red (which I believe is the case in this game).

I'm not saying because you didn't post in the past two day cycles that you're opinion is worthless to me, but let's try to take to take a logical approach and separate the town into groups..... ugh i was talking to my boss about something and completely lost my train of thought with this. Let me get back to this when it pops in my head again
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 16:26 GMT
#1024
On October 30 2009 00:53 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 00:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Up until today she's put more effort into this game than you did. All of a sudden you want to analyze the town and actually take part in discussion. Voting for Vivi is more than just "I'm following sugiura," but when you think about it, let's take out of the people that aren't doing much to contribute. These people are worse than inactives, and sometimes mafia will have about 50% of their team play the inactive role so they stay under the radar. This is such a typical case especially when the mayor and pardoner are not red (which I believe is the case in this game).

I'm not saying because you didn't post in the past two day cycles that you're opinion is worthless to me, but let's try to take to take a logical approach and separate the town into groups..... ugh i was talking to my boss about something and completely lost my train of thought with this. Let me get back to this when it pops in my head again


I like how effort = posting. You know who really put the most effort into this game? Ace. What happened to Ace? Oh right, he's dead. And you had a hand in that.

And why are you comparing me to her? And why haven't you pointed me to the discussion that got you to vote for Vivi?

But please, do try to separate the town into groups. I'd like to hear what you come up with.


Ace made the mistake that he himself scrutinizes other players for in other mafia games all the time.

His effort was counter-productive to the town. Did you read what he was posting? How useful was it to the town for him to insult all of us for not agreeing with his plan?

I'm comparing you to her because you two should be compared. Why can't I do that?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 29 2009 17:25 GMT
#1030
On October 30 2009 01:36 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 01:26 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Ace made the mistake that he himself scrutinizes other players for in other mafia games all the time.

His effort was counter-productive to the town. Did you read what he was posting? How useful was it to the town for him to insult all of us for not agreeing with his plan?

I'm comparing you to her because you two should be compared. Why can't I do that?


I read what Ace was posting. It wasn't counter-productive to the town. It was just alienating and annoying. But it certainly had it's uses.

I said you can't compare us because I asked you why she got to call the shots for your vote. You voted long before I started talking. I guess you can compare us if you really want to, it just isn't viable for what I asked and merely serves as a distraction.

I'd still like you to organize us into groups. I'd also like you to explain what information we got from Ace's lynch.


After the night post came out I wasn't exactly thinking "Hey I wonder what Scamp would do in this situation" because I didn't care. You didn't give me a reason to care up until maybe a page ago.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 30 2009 02:33 GMT
#1068
nice i was gonna switch my vote too I see I can't tell time in KST ^^
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
October 31 2009 01:22 GMT
#1089
yah this should be a win at this point. I assume something big is going on behind the scenes and I hope whoevers orchestrating the actions of the town has the most information (though I trust the people who have led us to victory so far.

2x lynch is a-ok with me. I was going to suggest it today for tomorrow, but I felt that maybe we should see if we actually can lower the KP of the mafia before making such a tough choice.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 01:25:24
October 31 2009 01:24 GMT
#1090
btw I'm going to be semi-inactive from the game until Sunday. At my moms and I only have my work laptop and going to the parade in the city tomorrow

(if anyone here is going lemme know we can meet up and plan kills and drink to them )

EDIT: BTW if I get pictures I will show the ironic costume I have for Halloween, just thought of the connection now putting it on
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 02 2009 03:21 GMT
#1161
I think it should be Scamp and HeavenOnEarth. We all know that we need to be active to understand everybody in this game and in my opinion being quiet puts you in the hot seat. I've said this before and I'll say it again being inactive in this game especially is bad.

I'm on the fence about Scamp I just feel like he was providing mis-information, and once night hit he was nowhere to be found. (two days ago) He made one post and was gone again. I don't think this is the best reason to vote for someone to lynch but of the candidates to get lynched he is definitely part of my top 2.

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 03 2009 04:09 GMT
#1187
Not to put a hole in your plan and I'm just saying this to speculate to the moron mafia team who didn't think of this awesome plan on Day 1 but wouldn't it have been a good idea for the mafia to originally make a member of their crew a bodyguard and give him the godfather rule, thus allowing him to pick the bodyguard role and forever stay hidden? It's what I would have done.

And I posted abrasively to attract those who would try to stir shit, and by doing this it's a great way for me to stay alive for Pyrr. Why would mafia attack me if I'm doing such a good job stirring some awesome discussion about me being mafia? I wouldn't consider it a coincidence that I have skated along to day 4 without dying guys.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 03 2009 04:10 GMT
#1188
day 5 oops. I don't usually make it past day three my bad lol.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 03 2009 13:24 GMT
#1193
On November 03 2009 19:48 Scamp wrote:
Was there anyone out there that was of the opinion that Vivi and Redtooth were both mafia?


Yes two days ago before we knew what was going on there were a number of players who thought they could be mafia, myself included.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 04 2009 22:22 GMT
#1252
On November 05 2009 05:49 Vivi57 wrote:
we should get amber tomorrow

if amber isn't mafia, we'll know right then that we fucked up something badly, but if we do shikyo then amber and both turn up town, it'll be too late to do anything


Lol and leave Pyrr exposed for a night hit?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 04 2009 22:30 GMT
#1253
Also you guys shouldn't base lynching me on vote choices. On Day 3, 4, and 5 I voted for choices that the town felt were mafia. I never had influence in deciding to lynch any of them aside from 1 vote. On Day 3 I would have changed my vote if someone asked. I even checked the thread up until vote close to make sure I wasn't asked to change from Vivi to Chez (which I was going to do, but the majority stuck anyway and I can't read KST well lol). Up until Day 3 Pyrr had been in contact with me and I assumed if he wanted me to make a change he would contact me, since he was the one person who knew my role. Pyrr never told me anything and I've stated earlier I am not involved in any circle of information.

On Day 5 I voted for HOE and Scamp, and I said if I should change my vote then someone should tell me. I don't have a single PM from anybody suggesting that I should change my vote or anyone getting angry at me for my choices (except Scamp but he was up my butt since Day 3). I've been honest about my actions since Day 2 when the Ace lynch blew up in my face, and I said I would only make choices in the towns best interest. Without any information it's hard for me to decide without picking apart the thread on my own and going with my gut, and if I post everyone gets angry, so why bother. I knew the damage I caused and I took a backseat and let other people go for the major decisions this game. I'm fine with the plan to votecheck me. I suggested this to Sugi for the past two days since I am the only person that can be confirmed against one other person who knew my role (and obviously told other people). If I had known sugi was going to lynch BC as the bodyguard check I would have suggested to lynch me instead since I made such a big mistake, and BC would probably be of more help in the long run.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 05 2009 12:47 GMT
#1288
I thought you were going to check me last night

I will wait yet another day I guess....
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 05 2009 15:25 GMT
#1290
well you guys keep accusing me so if you want to know my role just do the check or lynch me already. I think it's a waste of a check but people seem to think i'm a strong mafia candidate.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 07 2009 15:17 GMT
#1336
So we never figured out who the vigilante is? Or is there even one in this game?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 07 2009 22:39 GMT
#1373
On November 08 2009 06:47 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 06:31 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:19 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:08 Qatol wrote:
On November 08 2009 06:07 L wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:41 SugiuraMidori wrote:
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first.


He also uber lynched Chez...

Yeah, he didn't know his vote would count for 2 because of how the voting worked the day before, and he couldn't really go back and change it without dropping huge hints as to who he was.

We really weren't happy with that, but oh well.

It didn't matter though. Chez still had the tiebreaker even if Pyrr had only used 1 vote.


You know very well how early votes affect the outcome, and how hard it is for mafia to influence votes nearer to the end. It mattered plenty.

I don't know how much it mattered that pyrr used an extra vote in the lynch unless people were JUST looking at numbers and not WHO was voting or WHY Chezinu was being voted for..... I still don't think this misunderstanding had a huge effect on the game.

People love numbers, bro.


75% chance of truth, statistically speaking of course.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 08 2009 16:06 GMT
#1395
I thought BC was red, that's how little information I had all game

Pyrr you sneaky bastard. He's the reason I didn't trust Ace!!! FUCKA YOUUU PYRR!!!
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