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On October 18 2009 09:10 Ver wrote: Okay so we have 20 people so far. I'm waiting on replies from: MBH Cam Plexa SoG Mynock 0cz3c Empyrean Malongo LTT FS Am I the only person that's hoping 0cz3c will not read his inbox in time for the game to start so we will be less confused when the game starts? lol @ above post irony... | ||
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On October 21 2009 14:43 Ace wrote: *yawn* man it's that time again already? <---running for mayor <---going back to sleep Should we vote for you so you don't have a temper tantrum this time? | ||
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How do you gauge who's a "veteran" anyway? | ||
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On October 22 2009 16:34 HeavOnEarth wrote: hey Amber[Light], what are your reasons for voting caller other than to move the game along? I don't want to be caught in the shitstorm when the two major elected officials end up killing people that voted for the opposite party. Plus I don't want to be responsible for electing someone the town ends up upset about. I think all of the candidates are shitty, by the way. | ||
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That's just me though. | ||
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I was going to run this game, but since this is a game where it's 100% behavioral analysis I didn't think I would be good for the job. And I by far do not consider myself a leader in these games (refer to the post above this). | ||
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On October 22 2009 23:27 Ace wrote: huh? whats that? pulling random games I don't even remember out of your ass to try and sound credible? It's ok, you're bad. You'll get better eventually when you stop doing things like reading posts by guys named Foolishness and especially anyone named Vivi57. Why are you discrediting other players? That's not nice. | ||
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On October 23 2009 01:49 Shikyo wrote: Oh right, I don't think WC8 has posted anything other thant the wine drinking comment. I don't think he's voted either. Where's this wine you speak of and why do I not have a glass or box of? | ||
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On October 23 2009 01:09 L wrote: You realize that despite saying you don't want to get caught in the shitstorm, the fact that caller is going to kill pyrr puts you straight in the middle of said shitstorm, right? Pretty shaky reasoning here. Then kill me if you think what he does is suspicious. | ||
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On October 23 2009 09:59 SugiuraMidori wrote: 1. Dreamflower 2. Foolishness 3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace 4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before 5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's. 6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here. 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game? 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red 10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia. 11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche. 12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red 13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart. 14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red. 17. Caller 19. Redtooth 20. Heavonearth 21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either) This is my first list of suspects that I have gathered from reading all the posts up till now (except for the lamers and their poetry which I refuse to read from how poor it is). List is of course incomplete.. and blue and green are potentially swappable. Did my best at picking out the four reds, the other people would fall as either blue or green, and I'll refine the list later.[Note]: This is what I've gathered just from reading the grammar and methods of peoples speech patterns. So let me get this straight. The townies are all more-or-less acting like retards to confuse the rest of the town. The mafia are all acting very calmly to try and assist the town in any way to find the mafia. These mafia members may also be able to find the actual mafia members in this game. And the blues... ... I'm not going to touch this right now lol | ||
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On October 24 2009 03:16 SugiuraMidori wrote: Shikyo has been caught now he is getting pissed off that he might get lynched (haiku's > *) i was waiting for someone to toss up a haiku | ||
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On October 25 2009 00:55 Shikyo wrote: Don't give them to mafia, remember that at least one BG is likely to be mafia, and also it might be a good idea to give the names to a person who wasn't elected in the case all the BGs were mafia and you and Ace were killed. Then you give us that player's name(the one you told to). If you and Ace die tonight or any other night the BGs are alive, that person gives us the names of the BGs and we get 2 mafia. If he's mafia and won't give names of the BGs, we kill him and get one mafia even then. If the person you told to and announced publicly gets killed by mafia, you tell the names of BGs to another person and publicly announce his name as well. Any complaints? Lets follow this plan it's foolproof! | ||
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On October 25 2009 02:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Ace the Vet plan as I proposed was two prong, you said yourself that a sane DT becomes very powerful in this game. What we are aiming for is this. Sane DT's and an established blue. We now have checks available, so what we are trying to do is establish DT sanity while putting the vet plan in motion. The first thing we do is select a lynch candidate NOW. Motbob is IA because his grandfather died, and statistically there is about a 3/4th chance he is either red or blue. Tomorrow unless we somehow get a better candidate we lynch motbob. Now we have the checks confirmed. If Motbob turns green/red we get the DT information on their sanity and it is narrowed down to two. Then as night falls again we have the DT's ability to role check again and the Vet plan comes into play. When they check the "Vet" he should be blue, so now we have 2 colors and the DT's now know their sanity and we have an established blue. Now the issue you could see is IF Motbob is blue then what? Then we proceed with the plan. The only issue now is the DT's sanity is not confirmed, however then the "Vet" is guaranteed to be blue or godfather. This is because when they check the "vet" he should come back exactly how they saw Motbob or something is up. In relation to the godfather being an issue, its a dumb move. If the GF fakes being the Vet we kill both the actual vet and the godfather and are down one mafia, which is an exchange I am sure we are willing to make. Any questions? lol we don't know how many people are blue. Though there is a 4/20 chance he can be red....statstically of course... | ||
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Go ahead and lynch me. Maybe it will open some peoples eyes in this game. | ||
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Here's what I see through Ace's behavior: Motbob must be mafia. Ace pardoned someone for no reason, and even more importantly, this guy is "inactive." Well WTF Ace we have always killed someone because of activity on the first day, why change that now? He's useless to the town if you keep him alive and inactive, and I'm sure Qatol and Ver would have preferred if you didn't do that, but there must be a reason they allowed you to pardon him, he needs to stay alive for the mafia KP. Without him the mafia cannot succeed. Even if they mod-killed them, which I'm surprised they're not doing, the would be down one mafia member and one lynch away from having 1 KP per night. Ace is probably mafia. You used the pardoner ability when, in most games played here, we have NEVER used the pardoner ability. In fact, the one time the pardoner role was used IIRC, that pardoner was mafia and he was protecting a fellow mafia member. So if we lynch you, we can confirm that Motbob is red... and maybe one other person. You decided that vx70GTOJudgexv was a paramedic. That's a good choice to make a fake claim. I mean all you have to do is tell Judge to protect someone and instead you just don't kill them, makes it look like he's doing good. Then when the town numbers dwindle he just turns sides. It's a good plan, really. What would be better is if you guys made w8c the godfather, and then he could pick the paramedic role, so when we "don't believe you," we can just waste a role-check on him and see he's a "medic." Since the other two depend on your survival and you won't let us go through with the motbob plan, we should lynch you. The town deserves to know if you actually have a plan inside of your head or if you were saving one of your own. EVERYONE should vote to lynch ACE today. This gives us valuable information about at least four other townies! (Motbob, Judge, myself, pyrr and anyone else Ace has ridiculed in this game) We do not need the pardoner role to win this! | ||
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On October 26 2009 03:20 Qatol wrote: Umm modkills are based on voting. Last time I checked motbob voted. The only one in danger of being modkilled right now is scamp because he didn't submit his vote in time. I mean that we are allowing someone who can't participate 100% in this game to keep playing. It's not so much you guys its Ace for allowing motbob to stay alive, and for what reason? You guys voting for judge is terrible. Mafia will kill him if he's blue tonight anyway, why waste a lynch? We will not gain sufficient knowledge about anyone else if we kill him. Ace needs to be lynched tonight. Also think about my post last page, if Judge is really mafia, Ace will just pardon him and we will be yet another two votes behind come tomorrow. | ||
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Explain why all of a sudden you've changed personalities. This is Ace mafia mode. The elaborate posts. The accusations based upon our questioning. This is the Ace we all know and love, because you think you're doing the town a favor with the long posts and the finger pointing. You're not running around claiming you want a modkill, and I appreciate what you're doing, but I really think it's a load of bullshit.. You're coming up with this elaborate scheme that by day 3 might show us what path we need to take, yet you can't even come up with a lynch candidate for today. You seem pretty apathetic towards what we need to do tonight, as though the town can deal with the loss of one of us retards. You want to lynch me, ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L... but only because we disagree with you. You haven't got a plan for how we're supposed to get a mafia member tonight. You have a plan to fuck the town in two more days. I'm sticking by my vote Ace. You haven't convinced me that you're helping anybody this game other than yourself and three other people. And I have listened to you in the past. I've gone with some things you've proposed, but because they have immediate action and there's a network of townies behind it. There's so many skeptics in this thread it seriously leads me to believe that there is not a giant behind-the-scenes network. There are probably a few, I'm sure that group of the same 5 people is sitting somewhere discussing the game, and it will be those few that try and lynch one of the people you've accused today. | ||
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On October 26 2009 12:13 Qatol wrote: There is a difference between arguing for your plans/point of view and flaming the crap out of anyone who posts in the thread. I don't see why you can't make the same arguments without saying stuff like: "Every game I've got a fanclub of guys trying to ride my 9inch and Amber returned just for it this game. Gotta love it." Are you saying that you can't post civilly at all and need us to modkill you because you are incapable of showing a little common sense when posting? I mean, it isn't like you would get away with the kind of stuff you are saying anywhere else on the site. Why can't you use the same kind of restraint you use there when posting in the mafia game? For the record I didn't complain | ||
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On October 26 2009 16:12 Tricode wrote: I don't recall Ace saying he wanted to really lynch you guys. But my memory is fuzzy on it...maybe ROL but i don't recall to much of Ace actually suggesting or saying we should lynch any of you. Only some suspicion or giving his opinion about your abilities. He hasn't proposed a very strong lynch candidate tonight. | ||
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On October 27 2009 02:02 Tricode wrote: That has nothing to do with what you said or claimed. explain? | ||
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On October 27 2009 02:24 Tricode wrote: You said he wants to lynch ROL, Shikyo, Pyrr, L, but I pointed out that isn't true. Then you quote what i said. Why bother even quoting me calling you out on you making up stuff that Ace never said. Then except ignore it by saying he "never proposed a lynch candidate". What does that have to do with your previous statement about him wanting him to have you guys lynched? Nothing. If you were ace on the previous page, who would you like the see lynched. It's obvious he wants to see all of us dead before he gets lynched. | ||
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On October 27 2009 08:09 Ace wrote: and I find it funny Shikyo is so stupid to think I'd fake Dt, so we can lynch Judge who could be mafia so I could "trick the town". Yes, I'd kill 1 of only 4 people on my team for that. Brilliant Shikyo. Epic really. Ace your plan is very elaborate on the mafia side. Trust me what you did was ingenious, thats all I need to say. I will say this to the people abstaining: If I die because of apathy because mafia sways votes over Ace... well seriously fuck you all for not listening sooner. | ||
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On October 27 2009 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: because my specialty was removed from the game, so instead im opting to be lame I however have given insight, in how to win this fight yes its all in rhyme, but its not like being annoyings a crime Oh man Ver/Qatol forgot the town idiot role what are we supposed to do now that BloodC0bbler can't play as his favorite role and has to be a boring townie. womp womp wommmmmmmmmmmp | ||
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On October 28 2009 09:38 SugiuraMidori wrote: So for anyone, like L, that doesn't know why I place up those lists of colored folk is for the benefit of the entire town. Yes it can give away things to the mafia as well, but we can always remember that I'm not going to be 100% on the list (unless I get red again). The list is formed from my reading of how people talk in their posts, and how grammar is being used (hence the rhyme posts were a waste of time to analyze, same for flaming). What I try to do is gather a reasonable hint on who the town needs to lynch, not that, as we've clearly noticed, anyone follows me since I'm not some fancy "Vet" player. Following the clues as best I can I also make an effort to group people by how they act with each other as well, which I could have used the flaming posts to read, but that was lamesauce anyhow. That is why I can easily group a lot of the folk as either green or blue, and what I feel like are reds (as well as what others are saying if my analysis is incomplete). If you do notice my first one, I listed Foolish as non-red and Caller as red... so I made a mistake there, but at least I wasn't fool enough to lynch Ace when I could tell he wasn't lying his butt off to fake y'all out (as if he was red). However, those that voted for Ace are suspect in two ways, they knew what I knew (that Ace was truthful and was a DT and are red and wanted him gone) or they were bigots ... I'd say there were some that didn't want to read his shit anymore, but I didn't vote for him, so that's not as valid. ;P To be honest that was probably the towns error and the mafia sat back and watched everything happen. That's exactly what we did in mafia VII when it was Ace/Ver vs. neMy and the moron-parade. | ||
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NICE work DreamFlower. I already suspected the judge to be mafia but thanks for throwing a bomb on him and idk how you figured out Ace's sanity... if it was all luck thats cool too | ||
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On October 28 2009 18:10 Scamp wrote: I have a question for Amber[Light]. What is your opinion of Motbob, Judge, Myself, and Pyrr? If you looked back a few pages you could tell that I originally thought Judge and Motbob were mafia because they were working with Ace (whom I suspected). When Ace died I was unsure how to take his rolecheck for Judge and in my eyes it was highly probable that he was not actually a paramedic, but I honestly thought he was a townie. Motbob is still suspicious to me, only because his inactivity did bother me a bit. I understand his grandfather died, but there's still something that's bothering me. Either he's a blue who Qatol needed a night action from or he was a red who had a really good excuse not to post. I really wish we knew more information about him and why Ace saved him. If anyone actually knew why he pardoned him please tell us. Up until last night I would have said Pyrr is not mafia. I trust him a lot this game so I am not sure if I believe he's not mafia because of my insane amount of trust in him, or because he's been taking proper steps to help the town. Honestly the confirmation kill would have been to lynch Motbob to figure this out. They both can't be mafia if Pyrr wanted to lynch him on Day 1. It also seems unlikely that Pyrr wanted to lynch motbob and then told Ace to pardon him because they didn't seem to work together at all. Scamp I can't gauge whether you're a townie or mafia. Everyone in this game is connected to another player depending on who they accuse, who they vote for, and how they post. It's not good if you have so few posts that are neutral. It doesn't give us any reading on you. I voted for Vivi57 for the lynch simply because I'm going to allow someone else make the call today. I'll admit I fucked up pushing for Ace yesterday, but I took a path that the town had taken in the past with RCing Detectives. | ||
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On October 29 2009 23:46 Scamp wrote: Out of respect of the organizers who have asked us to refrain from personal attacks, I will only say that this thought is exceptionally retarded. Also Ace thought you were mafia and Ace is never wrong. With that logic L and I must be mafia. | ||
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On October 30 2009 00:07 Scamp wrote: Hey I didn't call you retarded. Just the thought of a bandwagon of not enough people before a mistaken deadline even though that's been constant throughout the whole game. I don't know what you're trying to pull here but I posted up my reasoning quite clearly. Please point me to the excellent discussion on Vivi that prompted you to vote for him. And that someone is, apparently, SugiuraMidori. So why does SugiuraMidori get to make the call for you? Up until today she's put more effort into this game than you did. All of a sudden you want to analyze the town and actually take part in discussion. Voting for Vivi is more than just "I'm following sugiura," but when you think about it, let's take out of the people that aren't doing much to contribute. These people are worse than inactives, and sometimes mafia will have about 50% of their team play the inactive role so they stay under the radar. This is such a typical case especially when the mayor and pardoner are not red (which I believe is the case in this game). I'm not saying because you didn't post in the past two day cycles that you're opinion is worthless to me, but let's try to take to take a logical approach and separate the town into groups..... ugh i was talking to my boss about something and completely lost my train of thought with this. Let me get back to this when it pops in my head again | ||
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On October 30 2009 00:53 Scamp wrote: I like how effort = posting. You know who really put the most effort into this game? Ace. What happened to Ace? Oh right, he's dead. And you had a hand in that. And why are you comparing me to her? And why haven't you pointed me to the discussion that got you to vote for Vivi? But please, do try to separate the town into groups. I'd like to hear what you come up with. Ace made the mistake that he himself scrutinizes other players for in other mafia games all the time. His effort was counter-productive to the town. Did you read what he was posting? How useful was it to the town for him to insult all of us for not agreeing with his plan? I'm comparing you to her because you two should be compared. Why can't I do that? | ||
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On October 30 2009 01:36 Scamp wrote: I read what Ace was posting. It wasn't counter-productive to the town. It was just alienating and annoying. But it certainly had it's uses. I said you can't compare us because I asked you why she got to call the shots for your vote. You voted long before I started talking. I guess you can compare us if you really want to, it just isn't viable for what I asked and merely serves as a distraction. I'd still like you to organize us into groups. I'd also like you to explain what information we got from Ace's lynch. After the night post came out I wasn't exactly thinking "Hey I wonder what Scamp would do in this situation" because I didn't care. You didn't give me a reason to care up until maybe a page ago. | ||
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2x lynch is a-ok with me. I was going to suggest it today for tomorrow, but I felt that maybe we should see if we actually can lower the KP of the mafia before making such a tough choice. | ||
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(if anyone here is going lemme know we can meet up and plan kills and drink to them ) EDIT: BTW if I get pictures I will show the ironic costume I have for Halloween, just thought of the connection now putting it on | ||
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I'm on the fence about Scamp I just feel like he was providing mis-information, and once night hit he was nowhere to be found. (two days ago) He made one post and was gone again. I don't think this is the best reason to vote for someone to lynch but of the candidates to get lynched he is definitely part of my top 2. | ||
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And I posted abrasively to attract those who would try to stir shit, and by doing this it's a great way for me to stay alive for Pyrr. Why would mafia attack me if I'm doing such a good job stirring some awesome discussion about me being mafia? I wouldn't consider it a coincidence that I have skated along to day 4 without dying guys. | ||
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On November 03 2009 19:48 Scamp wrote: Was there anyone out there that was of the opinion that Vivi and Redtooth were both mafia? Yes two days ago before we knew what was going on there were a number of players who thought they could be mafia, myself included. | ||
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On November 05 2009 05:49 Vivi57 wrote: we should get amber tomorrow if amber isn't mafia, we'll know right then that we fucked up something badly, but if we do shikyo then amber and both turn up town, it'll be too late to do anything Lol and leave Pyrr exposed for a night hit? | ||
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On Day 5 I voted for HOE and Scamp, and I said if I should change my vote then someone should tell me. I don't have a single PM from anybody suggesting that I should change my vote or anyone getting angry at me for my choices (except Scamp but he was up my butt since Day 3). I've been honest about my actions since Day 2 when the Ace lynch blew up in my face, and I said I would only make choices in the towns best interest. Without any information it's hard for me to decide without picking apart the thread on my own and going with my gut, and if I post everyone gets angry, so why bother. I knew the damage I caused and I took a backseat and let other people go for the major decisions this game. I'm fine with the plan to votecheck me. I suggested this to Sugi for the past two days since I am the only person that can be confirmed against one other person who knew my role (and obviously told other people). If I had known sugi was going to lynch BC as the bodyguard check I would have suggested to lynch me instead since I made such a big mistake, and BC would probably be of more help in the long run. | ||
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I will wait yet another day I guess.... | ||
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75% chance of truth, statistically speaking of course. | ||
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Pyrr you sneaky bastard. He's the reason I didn't trust Ace!!! FUCKA YOUUU PYRR!!! | ||
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