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On October 26 2009 11:12 dreamflower wrote:
Sorry, I'm not thinking clearly at all. Please completely disregard the part about checking DT sanity in my post, considering the DTs can't exactly check someone's role once they're dead. I guess that'll have to be left until the next Night, if at all. The part about Vivi and Chezinu acting suspicious still holds, though, so one of them could be the lynch for Day Three.
Why are you posting so much this game?
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RoL you're an idiot. I already I would have went along with a Vet plan IF THE VET STEPPED UP. There's no need to lynch anyone just to confirm DTs. The Mafia has a shitty KP of TWO. Anyone proclaiming we need to lynch townies so the DTs can be claimed in two days is a fucking fool. Just be patient and let the Mafia bleed to death. This is exactly why you're always mentioned in the bottom rung of player tiers because you are so fucking slow. My entire plan gives ALL the DTs credibility because everytime I check someone and announce it they can check them too. Once I figure out my sanity and let everyone know, they by tuen are just about guaranteed their sanity else.
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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On October 26 2009 10:44 Shikyo wrote:
"I checked Judge on Night 1 because I didn't have any BG names and the Vet never stepped forward. Duh? Why does it matter who I checked then? You're bringing attention to something that has no bearing on my motives. If any of the 3 prime choices for checking aren't there I had to pick someone instead of you know, not using my unlimited role checks."
Why the fuck didn't you say that we'd lynch judge today and that every DT should check him? It'd have been the same. Expect that every other DT would have been able to confirm their sanity as well. You're playing so selfish there's no way you can be town at all. Or you've just lost all of your skill. And yes, your pardoner style isn't consistent with your past behavior. Scum.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LYNChING PEOPLE JUST TO CONFIRM DTs. Get this through your thick fucking skull. It's not going to happen.
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On October 26 2009 11:27 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 10:44 Shikyo wrote:
"I checked Judge on Night 1 because I didn't have any BG names and the Vet never stepped forward. Duh? Why does it matter who I checked then? You're bringing attention to something that has no bearing on my motives. If any of the 3 prime choices for checking aren't there I had to pick someone instead of you know, not using my unlimited role checks."
Why the fuck didn't you say that we'd lynch judge today and that every DT should check him? It'd have been the same. Expect that every other DT would have been able to confirm their sanity as well. You're playing so selfish there's no way you can be town at all. Or you've just lost all of your skill. And yes, your pardoner style isn't consistent with your past behavior. Scum. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LYNChING PEOPLE JUST TO CONFIRM DTs. Get this through your thick fucking skull. It's not going to happen.
We were never lynching people just to confirm DTs. The Idea was we'd choose during the night so that the DT could check prior to the day we lynch so we save a day/night cycle.
Do you even read shit?
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That idea was not chosen. The idea was Vet confirmation. RoL has been bitching because I won't allow Motbob to die. I checked Judge and reveal it and now all of a sudden it's well why didn't you say to kil Judge?
DURR. How many times do I have to tell you - no one is dying for confirmations. None. Unless there's a good argument for why someone should be lynched I'll pardon them. The Mafia have a measly KP of 2 and you're all hell bent on rolling people just because. Not happening.
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Moderator Warning
We've received a number of complaints about the abrasive and repulsive posting of many players. Because this is a game of mafia and not 'Who's the bigger idiot?' we ask that everyone focus less on insulting and disgusting references, and more on finding the mafia.
Who knows, you might even find that you can persuade others better if you aren't always attacking them.
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meh, you can go ahead and modkill me then. If people are going to complain about the way some random men/women on the internet are talking to them rather than read the posts I'd rather not be part of this.
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On October 26 2009 12:09 Ace wrote:
meh, you can go ahead and modkill me then. If people are going to complain about the way some random men/women on the internet are talking to them rather than read the posts I'd rather not be part of this.
There is a difference between arguing for your plans/point of view and flaming the crap out of anyone who posts in the thread. I don't see why you can't make the same arguments without saying stuff like: "Every game I've got a fanclub of guys trying to ride my 9inch and Amber returned just for it this game. Gotta love it." Are you saying that you can't post civilly at all and need us to modkill you because you are incapable of showing a little common sense when posting?
I mean, it isn't like you would get away with the kind of stuff you are saying anywhere else on the site. Why can't you use the same kind of restraint you use there when posting in the mafia game?
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Man, I gotta be nice too?
Lets be friends ( o I I )b
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On October 26 2009 12:22 L wrote:
Man, I gotta be nice too?
Lets be friends ( o I I )b
Haha, yes. The warning does not only apply to Ace. We are asking everyone to tone down the flaming a bit as it has gotten out of control.
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Hey, Qatol, I asked you to be friends.
Accept/Deny?
( o II )b
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On October 26 2009 12:34 L wrote:
Hey, Qatol, I asked you to be friends.
Accept/Deny?
( o II )b
Accept, brah. 
EDIT:
And that's enough derailing by me. Please continue accusing each other of being mafia. If you have any problems with flaming or whatever, don't hesitate to PM either Ver or myself. Ace, if you honestly want to be modkilled, PM us.
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On October 26 2009 12:13 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 12:09 Ace wrote:
meh, you can go ahead and modkill me then. If people are going to complain about the way some random men/women on the internet are talking to them rather than read the posts I'd rather not be part of this. There is a difference between arguing for your plans/point of view and flaming the crap out of anyone who posts in the thread. I don't see why you can't make the same arguments without saying stuff like: "Every game I've got a fanclub of guys trying to ride my 9inch and Amber returned just for it this game. Gotta love it." Are you saying that you can't post civilly at all and need us to modkill you because you are incapable of showing a little common sense when posting? I mean, it isn't like you would get away with the kind of stuff you are saying anywhere else on the site. Why can't you use the same kind of restraint you use there when posting in the mafia game?
For the record I didn't complain 
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no need to PM, just do it. Hell I didn't even think that was a serious flame. Calling some guys a member of my fan club is like...not even a big deal.
Whatever, I don't really care that much. Just modkill me.
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So I'm back. And no, Ace's plan still requires someone to die to confirm his RCs if indeed he is a DT. If all Judge/2 BGs are all the same color, someone still needs to die to find out what "blue" is, which can be either BLUE or RED. If all three are different colors, then Judge is GREEN, but you know nothing about the other two BGs without one dying. If the BGs are both the same color but that color is not "blue", then even if you kill one BG you know nothing about "blue" is. Furthermore, if Judge and a BG share a color and the other BG does not, the same situation happens where you don't know what the other BG is even if you kill one. Conclusion: Ace's plan still requires a loss of life. His plan assumes mafia will do our dirty work for us and kill judge and perhaps even a bg. You can't find out sanity without people dying. Yes, using BGs as a check point does rule out GREEN as a possible outcome, but it still tells us nothing without a death.
In addition, proving your "alignment" doesn't prove that you're a DT, as Pyrr pointed out.
Using the "not enough evidence to kill XX" is a defense you used last game as mafia. Doesn't really say anything about your role. In this game, town gets 1 KP for every 2 mafia KP. This actually means that towns KP isn't as critical as in previous games, where town would get 1 lynch per 4-5 mafia KP. This is a huge difference. Which means that we can afford not to lynch people. However, we need information. And it won't come unless people die.
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I don't want to think about poetry right now.. so I'll do a regular post.
I don't think anyone really noticed my last post with a slightly changed list of names with colors due to the flaming, but I am still rather confident that vivi gave himself away as a mafia on day one when he was basically the first person to openly say that tricode is not red while the entire town kept on about him being red.
I will go upon the basis that I subliminally role-claimed to Shikyo, and Chez already knew what I was, and that I'm not dead, that they aren't mafia either. So that's at least three of us you can use, Pyrr, for giving BG names (if you are still interested in doing so.)
I know this actually puts me at risk, and them too, if I die (if one of them dies and isn't red, wouldn't that claim my innocence as well? --I don't know how y'all think.) I still haven't seen much from redtooth to indicate him being non-red, but I do bet he's not blue (mostly from Ace's rants).
At this point I am inclined to agree there are no VETs, and it seems something Qatol would do to us ^_^ He is a tricksy one when it comes to making role-counts for the game (case in point the all-blue game). In order to balance out the sanity stuff, having no VETs that can safely role-claim and then be med-protected would work rather well.
It would be neat if all the DT's could find each-other out and then role check the same person, it would give every DT a knowledge of, within 2/6, their sanity (due to grouping, they'd all have similar sanities... after that, they would NEVER check the same person, each making a list of groups--red, blue, green-- and if anyone in any of those groups got killed, it would have the cascading effect of ALL DT's knowing their sanity in an instant just due to comparisons of the original check). But I think this would take too long to do, even with a much slower game due to a 2KP set.
Now of course, knocking out one mafia like vivi doesn't change the KP, but perhaps can get us closer to winning?
So for now, there's my DT plan if they want to try it, if it's even possible.
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So I just noticed that our good pal Judge just voted for ROL without any given reasoning in this thread (at least that I read). So that means that if Ace really is a DT, than the blue role on Judge was random due to him being red.. gg for Ace's sanity?
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On October 26 2009 13:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
So I just noticed that our good pal Judge just voted for ROL without any given reasoning in this thread (at least that I read). So that means that if Ace really is a DT, than the blue role on Judge was random due to him being red.. gg for Ace's sanity?
I said I'd much rather see RoL dead than Ace to the people voting to lynch Ace.
I think his insistence on the Vet plan is retarded, personally. I also think him trying to argue Ace's plan is detrimental to the town.
I understand the plan Ace is laying out. Apparently no one else is though.
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I get it, its just ridiculously complex. A solid town that doesn't rely on PMing inner circles needs simple plans that are too the point. Complex plans just create more room for the mafia to fuck with us. What part of that don't you get? Good luck getting me lynched though.
Oh and sorry Qatol/Ver I will tone down any insults I was using.
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