EPTI'm looking forward to the 5k and my man Lopez Lomong to kick some ass. I'm also rooting for my sprinter crush Allyson Felix in the 200. She did well in the 100 and easily passed through the 200 prelims and semis. She is one of the few sprinters or just runners in general who still looks good when running.
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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
I'm looking forward to the 5k and my man Lopez Lomong to kick some ass. I'm also rooting for my sprinter crush Allyson Felix in the 200. She did well in the 100 and easily passed through the 200 prelims and semis. She is one of the few sprinters or just runners in general who still looks good when running. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 08 2012 13:40 AirbladeOrange wrote: The 1500 was pretty boring until near the end. Sounds like most championship 1500's. "Jog" the first few then kick like hell the last one. Pretty eerie seeing Makhloufi run away from a world class field like that, but after looking at the splits it isn't anywhere near as silly as Ramzi was in Beijing. Suprising? Sure. Implausible? Nah. The Matthew US dude ran really smart as expected and I wonder if that's a PR for him. He doesn't seem to have a bad kick but definitely not good enough to rely on it for a slower, tactical race. Leo is the man and I was so worried he was too far off as he never really seemed to be in a good spot until the last 40 meters or so. Centro always runs really smart tactically. He has a pretty darn good kick actually, as he closed in 51.xx at the World Championships last fall to take home a bronze. He was injured earlier in the year and that may have impacted his fitness. Manzano's run was fucking awesome! Such a great 200m from him, and thanks to that we could legitimately bring home like 4+ medals in distance from this Olympics too, which is freakin insane!! I'm looking forward to the 5k and my man Lopez Lomong to kick some ass. I like the guy as well, especially after his heroics at Payton-Jordan. Honestly though, I just don't think he has a chance. He was comfortably handled by Lagat and Rupp off the relatively slow pace of the 5000m at the trials, and don't think anything is going to have changed, and now has Farah to deal with who is basically the "anything you can do, I can do better" version of Rupp so far. As such, nothing makes me think he can beat those guys. And then... Gebremeskel. He ran 12:45 with a 54.6 last lap (shutting it down some last 20-30m) which is a pretty damn insane run off 12:45 pace. He looked relaxed the whole way and didn't even seem like he has put in a significant effort right after he finished. He may not (though there is a good chance he does) have the speed to hang with Farah and Rupp if the pace is slow, but their is a damn good chance he is the fittest guy in the race and I could see him cruising away with it if he puts the hammer down Bekele 08' style and crushes the last 1200m-mile. I wish we had seen more of him but I'm inclined to say Gebremeskel is the co-favorite with Mo in this race, with Gebremeskel possibly having the edge of a faster pace/long close and Mo being more dangerous if it comes to a last lap. Maybe I'm too hyped/reading into his last race...but that run in Paris was really, really, really, fucking good. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On August 06 2012 17:34 IreScath wrote: The reason we cannot get to that speed are 2... A) muscle strength and fibre recruitment is not optimal B) Nervous system limitations... The ability for our nervous system to relay the info of changing direction of moving parts in our body and reacting to stimuli is a bottleneck here as well. They did a study in which people would hop on one leg (I think on a treadmill), and they found the muscle strength far exceeded the maximum force a sprinter requires. They concluded the problem was foot limitations. My own thoughts were that if people had 4 legs, you could cycle 4 feet instead of 2 and get around the nervous system limitation. And I have no idea who Manzano is, but I noticed he was doing it every single round, just start running 50% faster than everyone else at the end. And there's so much shoving and positioning, it kind of gets away from the idea who can run the fastest possible time. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2574 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 08 2012 21:36 AirbladeOrange wrote: One thing I love about Olympic T&F is they have no rabbits. I hate races where they have someone to run JUST to drop out after a while. Stupid. I agree with you that championship races like the Olympics and WC's shouldn't have rabbits. However, I disagree that the practice is stupid for a couple reasons. First, its absolutely required if you want a really honest race, as no one is going to sacrifice themselves (even in diamond league meets) to keep the pace quick. Stemming from that, without rabbits most races are going to turn into "tactial" last lap kick affairs. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but if every race is like that it gets old, with most races being like you described the Oly. 1500m final as: boring, tight bunched physical race until the last lap More importantly, it always ensures that a certain set of people can win, while excluding others. Mahkloufi for instance, could not have won this race is the pace was something like 3:30 or 3:31 pace, and neither could Manzano. Neither of them are in good enough shape to handle that pace and still have anything in the tank for the last lap...they are maxed and we saw this in Monaco where Makhloufi ran 3:30.xx for 5th place. Guys like Makhloufi, Manzano, etc. are all guys who can kick like monsters in slower races because they have great speed, but not quite the fitness of others like Chepseba or Kiplagat. However, Chepseba and Kiplagat don't have the same gear as a guy like Makhloufi and need a faster pace to have a good chance of winning. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
but it looks like Felix won the 200m :D congrats on finally getting it! | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 09 2012 04:58 Shellshock1122 wrote: Lashinda Demus defending world champ gets silver in the 400m Hurdles losing to Russia's Natalya Antyukh. Another missed opportunity for gold >.> grats on the personal best for Antyukh but it looks like Felix won the 200m :D congrats on finally getting it! Hell yea! Nice to see her finally break through at the Olympics after all those WC golds and great performances! Nice run by Merrit to take gold in the 110m hurdles...though it really, really sucked to have Liu Xiang go out like that in the prelims. Guy definitely deserved better than that  | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 09 2012 05:34 Itsmedudeman wrote: So merritt apparently ran a 12.93 +/- .01 like 5 different times? Is that type of consistency common? No, that would be pretty damn rare. Not really any different from say Bolt running 5x 9.65's or something of the sort. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On August 09 2012 06:09 Lylat wrote: Can someone explain to me why the outer lanes are such a disadvantage in 100m and 200m ? I think it's different for some people. The inner lanes can be difficult for people who have trouble running the turns because you have to have more angular velocity. The outer lanes might be hard because you cant see anyone else until they pass you or you have to turn and look. I don't really see how any of the lanes are that (dis)advantageous for the 100m since it's just a straight run. That's just my thoughts. I could be wrong | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On August 09 2012 05:37 L_Master wrote: No, that would be pretty damn rare. Not really any different from say Bolt running 5x 9.65's or something of the sort. Don't forget that Bolt only runs to the tape once a year at best. If he was running at full speed every race we'd get more sub 9.7 times from him. Usually he shuts it down when he sees everyone else is way behind with 30m to go. I don't know what happened to the Kenyans in the 1500m. Peaking at the wrong time maybe, but I think Makhoufi was just too damn good, fast pace or not he would have been on that podium. How many other guys in the field had 1:43/3:30 capabilities? | ||
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TranceStorm
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
DAVID RUDISHA FTW!! New WR of 1:40.91..and this WITHOUT any pacers. Just took it out hard knowing he could run faster than anyone else, even if he had to do all the work. Beautiful second lap, stayed in control the whole way and just powered down the backstretch. I'm literally in awe right now. What a boss...actually guns for the WR in an OLYMPIC FINAL despite the risk he could tie up bad in the homestretch. Blown away. By the way...pretty much everyone in this final ran great, massive PR's for everybody in the top 6. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Without a doubt the greatest 800m ever run. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
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airtown
United States410 Posts
On a positive note, the women's 4x100 race was fantastic and Jamaica's men's 4x100 team is now in a position to smash the world record. | ||
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airtown
United States410 Posts
Men: 800m - 2012 marathon - 2011 100m - 2009 200m - 2009 110m hurdles - 2008 10000m - 2005 5000m - 2004 steeplechase - 2004 400m - 1999 1500m - 1998 400m hurdles - 1992 Women: steeplechase - 2008 5000m - 2008 400m hurdles - 2003 marathon - 2003 1500m - 1993 10000m - 1993 110m hurdles - 1988 100m - 1988 200m - 1988 400m - 1985 800m - 1983 As you can see, the world records in running for women tend to be far older than they are for men. This runs contrary to what I would expect, since over the past few decades it's become far more common and socially acceptable for females to be involved in competitive sports (ex. this year there were just as many girls as boys on my school's track team). Any ideas for why women's world records tend to be so old? Were performance enhancing drugs just really commonly used among women in the 80s? | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
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