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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
October 07 2017 13:04 GMT
#621
Oh man. I don't usually watch LCS, I just watch LCK and LPL, but I'm starting to think I may have ranked the regions wrong. NA might just be better than China or Europe.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-07 13:07:10
October 07 2017 13:04 GMT
#622
Scout was prob tilted from the previous two games lul
"Different" pick in Graves was cool zz

Edit: Reapered's draft was def risky but I'm glad it paid off
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 07 2017 13:04 GMT
#623
--- Nuked ---
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 07 2017 13:05 GMT
#624
If TSM and C9 advance, that'd be the biggest surprise to me.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
October 07 2017 13:19 GMT
#625
I don't even like EDG and I'm heartbroken
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 07 2017 14:12 GMT
#626
On October 07 2017 22:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
If TSM and C9 advance, that'd be the biggest surprise to me.


In b4 TSM-C9 quarters
One Love
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 07 2017 14:27 GMT
#627
Pretty sad I'm going to lose both bets.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 07 2017 15:10 GMT
#628
If you think about it, your bets were against each other, either you win both or lose both. Very little room in between.

I'm still hoping EDG will pull off a miracle. But destroying SKT twice in the early game is a really far fetched dream.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9200 Posts
October 07 2017 15:24 GMT
#629
From being 10 k gold ahead of SKT to finishing the week 0-3, this has to hurt
You're now breathing manually
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-07 15:59:00
October 07 2017 15:45 GMT
#630
geez, the audience was fucking silent after EDG v C9 and WE vs TSM.

NA looking like the second best region so far.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 07 2017 16:48 GMT
#631
On October 08 2017 00:10 DarkCore wrote:
If you think about it, your bets were against each other, either you win both or lose both. Very little room in between.

I'm still hoping EDG will pull off a miracle. But destroying SKT twice in the early game is a really far fetched dream.

I don't think so. You don't expect IMT or C9 to beat LZ or SKT. Those games are already "counted losses"; it's more of a question if SKT and LZ can go 6-0 and if SSG can go 5-1. For NA, it leans both on C9 or IMT scrubbing out and going 1-5 or 2-5 and TSM going 4-2. C9 being 2-1 is a surprise; TSM looking untouchable in their group is a surprise.

I probably could've shaved a bit more and put the NA line at 9.5 and KR at 14.5 and people might've taken them. But as an ineteresting bet, neither really fits. Part of the fun of ban bets is to be betting on something that's possible but not probable. You take the 40-45% bet and then rub it in if you win. If you lose... then it's expected.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 07 2017 16:51 GMT
#632
On October 08 2017 01:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2017 00:10 DarkCore wrote:
If you think about it, your bets were against each other, either you win both or lose both. Very little room in between.

I'm still hoping EDG will pull off a miracle. But destroying SKT twice in the early game is a really far fetched dream.

I don't think so. You don't expect IMT or C9 to beat LZ or SKT. Those games are already "counted losses"; it's more of a question if SKT and LZ can go 6-0 and if SSG can go 5-1. For NA, it leans both on C9 or IMT scrubbing out and going 1-5 or 2-5 and TSM going 4-2. C9 being 2-1 is a surprise; TSM looking untouchable in their group is a surprise.

I probably could've shaved a bit more and put the NA line at 9.5 and KR at 14.5 and people might've taken them. But as an ineteresting bet, neither really fits. Part of the fun of ban bets is to be betting on something that's possible but not probable. You take the 40-45% bet and then rub it in if you win. If you lose... then it's expected.


I would have given 16 as the line for KR
One Love
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 07 2017 17:31 GMT
#633
On October 08 2017 01:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2017 00:10 DarkCore wrote:
If you think about it, your bets were against each other, either you win both or lose both. Very little room in between.

I'm still hoping EDG will pull off a miracle. But destroying SKT twice in the early game is a really far fetched dream.

I don't think so. You don't expect IMT or C9 to beat LZ or SKT. Those games are already "counted losses"; it's more of a question if SKT and LZ can go 6-0 and if SSG can go 5-1. For NA, it leans both on C9 or IMT scrubbing out and going 1-5 or 2-5 and TSM going 4-2. C9 being 2-1 is a surprise; TSM looking untouchable in their group is a surprise.

I probably could've shaved a bit more and put the NA line at 9.5 and KR at 14.5 and people might've taken them. But as an ineteresting bet, neither really fits. Part of the fun of ban bets is to be betting on something that's possible but not probable. You take the 40-45% bet and then rub it in if you win. If you lose... then it's expected.


I don't think TSM being untouchable in their group is a surprise if you watch all the regions play.

Idk, WE and Flashwolves are good, but they also are very inconsistent and have a lot of weaknesses. TSM is pretty much just solid as hell, and while they used to have a huge weakness Top, hauntzer seems to have been getting better every day. I think Flame and Impact coming to NA helped him immensely.

That said, I didn't expect Hauntzer to body kids as hard, and I expected Sven to be less... Int-y. LOL.

I'm also not surprised persay about C9 being 2-1; I think they have a solid as hell team, but I'd say they are only "on" like 20% of the time. C9's peak is as high or higher than TSM's IMO... they just spend a lot of time in ClownFiesta land. I;m not surprised at all, but I'd say it was unexpected for sure.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 07 2017 17:38 GMT
#634
TSM always shits the bed though. I'll be surprised if they perform til the end of groups.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 07 2017 18:15 GMT
#635
I'd agree with that. But in a vacuum, in terms of level of play domestically, TSM as a club should 6-0 that group, imo.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-07 18:55:31
October 07 2017 18:48 GMT
#636
The only surprising results for me thus far have been ahq > EDG, GAM > Fnatic, and RNG > SSG. Everything else has gone according to my Pick'ems predictions so far
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
October 07 2017 20:04 GMT
#637
On October 08 2017 00:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
geez, the audience was fucking silent after EDG v C9 and WE vs TSM.

NA looking like the second best region so far.

From what I've seen I'd say best region so far, the korean teams in the individual games haven't been as consistently dominating through the entirety as usual.

If the standings stay as if I'm looking at a 100% pick'em. :D
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 07 2017 20:04 GMT
#638
On October 08 2017 03:48 Zato-1 wrote:
The only surprising results for me thus far have been ahq > EDG, GAM > Fnatic, and RNG > SSG. Everything else has gone according to my Pick'ems predictions so far


This was only a surprise if you haven't seen Fnatic play since Huni and Reignover were on the team.
One Love
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 07 2017 20:13 GMT
#639
It looks good now but na doing well week 1 and losing every game week 2 is a tradition as old as CN sandbags
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 07 2017 20:55 GMT
#640
On October 08 2017 03:48 Zato-1 wrote:
The only surprising results for me thus far have been ahq > EDG, GAM > Fnatic, and RNG > SSG. Everything else has gone according to my Pick'ems predictions so far


Two of the groups I have look good, but I placed EDG and Fnatic 2nd in their groups, and they're kinda last . I still Fnatic will somehow push through though.

From what I've seen I'd say best region so far, the korean teams in the individual games haven't been as consistently dominating through the entirety as usual.


Not really true. Last year the KR teams all lost games in group stage, Tigers even lost two games. They all ended first in their groups, but they weren't invincible. Only in the playoffs did they really start rolling over opponents. I'm expecting something similar this year, SKT might very well lose another surprise game, RNG might even be first seed.
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