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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 05 2017 00:41 GMT
#361
Glad to see more ban bets going on. :^)
Once both parties have finalized terms, plz PM that post to me and I'll update it up top. I mostly skim, so it's likely I won't catch all the details unless it's specifically pointed out. Thanks.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 01:04 GMT
#362
On October 05 2017 08:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 08:25 geript wrote:
I'd also take a month ban bet on Korea winning more than 16.5 games in groups. (Play-off /tie breakers excluded)

I'll take the under on that.

You sir have a deal. I think that's really close as I kinda think 16 is the exact number that's likely to happen.
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
October 05 2017 01:48 GMT
#363
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?
The baylife, it burns!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 05 2017 01:53 GMT
#364
Bans will be served consecutively. e.g. Lunar bets three people, at a week each, and loses all three bets. Lunar gets banned for a total of 3 weeks after Worlds.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 02:01 GMT
#365
On October 05 2017 10:48 Torchise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?

You're on.

Out of curiosity, how many do you thing NA wins. I think the number is exactly 7?
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
October 05 2017 02:02 GMT
#366
On October 05 2017 10:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
Bans will be served consecutively. e.g. Lunar bets three people, at a week each, and loses all three bets. Lunar gets banned for a total of 3 weeks after Worlds.


Ok, thanks for the clarification, just sent you a PM for the ban bet.
The baylife, it burns!
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
October 05 2017 02:06 GMT
#367
On October 05 2017 11:01 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 10:48 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?

You're on.

Out of curiosity, how many do you thing NA wins. I think the number is exactly 7?


Hard to say, if I had to choose an exact number, I would probably go for 10.
The baylife, it burns!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 02:13 GMT
#368
On October 05 2017 11:06 Torchise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 11:01 geript wrote:
On October 05 2017 10:48 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?

You're on.

Out of curiosity, how many do you thing NA wins. I think the number is exactly 7?


Hard to say, if I had to choose an exact number, I would probably go for 10.

That's generous. That's assuming TSM wins 5/6 and IMT/C9 win 5/12. That seems very high given their groups. I think TSM wins 4 at most (they'll have at least 2 bad games imo) and they're in a group where they're barely ahead of all the other teams (at best). Immortals almost assuredly can only win 4/6 at most. In theory, you can get two NA teams going 4-2, but that's unlikely imo.

I think it's either 7 or 8 for NA at most and it's pretty close; but I could absolutely see TSM tanking and going 3-3 and then C9 + IMT failing to win 5 games between the two.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 05 2017 02:19 GMT
#369
week ban on TSM not getting out of groups anyone?
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 02:33:11
October 05 2017 02:30 GMT
#370
On October 05 2017 11:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 11:06 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 11:01 geript wrote:
On October 05 2017 10:48 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?

You're on.

Out of curiosity, how many do you thing NA wins. I think the number is exactly 7?


Hard to say, if I had to choose an exact number, I would probably go for 10.

That's generous. That's assuming TSM wins 5/6 and IMT/C9 win 5/12. That seems very high given their groups. I think TSM wins 4 at most (they'll have at least 2 bad games imo) and they're in a group where they're barely ahead of all the other teams (at best). Immortals almost assuredly can only win 4/6 at most. In theory, you can get two NA teams going 4-2, but that's unlikely imo.

I think it's either 7 or 8 for NA at most and it's pretty close; but I could absolutely see TSM tanking and going 3-3 and then C9 + IMT failing to win 5 games between the two.


C9 can get 2 against AHQ pretty easily, unless you think AHQ are somewhat a sleeper OP team or something (I think they are the 2nd worst team in the group stage, above FB). It's the 1st world appearance for IMT and their botlane so it could be shaky for them and they could definitely drop games to FNC or GAM but I think they can get 2-3 wins, minimum. I expect 5 wins for TSM, might be too ambitious but we'll see.

Overall, think it is going to be more than 8, which is why I took the ban bet for >7 wins.
The baylife, it burns!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 02:51 GMT
#371
On October 05 2017 11:30 Torchise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2017 11:13 geript wrote:
On October 05 2017 11:06 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 11:01 geript wrote:
On October 05 2017 10:48 Torchise wrote:
On October 05 2017 08:23 geript wrote:
Best case scenario, C9 wins 1.5 games, IMT wins 3.5 games, and TSM wins 5 games. Realistic scenario, C9 wins 0.5 games, IMT wins 2.5 games and TSM wins 3.75 games. So O/U is between 7 and 10.

1 month ban bet... NA wins less than 7.5 games in groups. Any takers? (Playoff / tie breakers excluded)


Sign me up, I'll take NA wins 8 or more games total in groups.

So these ban bets do stack, right? If geript lose both his bets, he gets banned for 2 months?

You're on.

Out of curiosity, how many do you thing NA wins. I think the number is exactly 7?


Hard to say, if I had to choose an exact number, I would probably go for 10.

That's generous. That's assuming TSM wins 5/6 and IMT/C9 win 5/12. That seems very high given their groups. I think TSM wins 4 at most (they'll have at least 2 bad games imo) and they're in a group where they're barely ahead of all the other teams (at best). Immortals almost assuredly can only win 4/6 at most. In theory, you can get two NA teams going 4-2, but that's unlikely imo.

I think it's either 7 or 8 for NA at most and it's pretty close; but I could absolutely see TSM tanking and going 3-3 and then C9 + IMT failing to win 5 games between the two.


C9 can get 2 against AHQ pretty easily, unless you think AHQ are somewhat a sleeper OP team or something (I think they are the 2nd worst team in the group stage, above FB). It's the 1st world appearance for IMT and their botlane so it could be shaky for them and they could definitely drop games to FNC or GAM but I think they can get 2-3 wins, minimum. I expect 5 wins for TSM, might be too ambitious but we'll see.

Overall, think it is going to be more than 8, which is why I took the ban bet for >7 wins.

I'm not sure C9 can beat AHQ twice; they're far worse than expected I expect them to 1-1 at best. I haven't watched any AHQ so I could be really wrong there, but historically I'd expect it to be relatively equal at best for c9. 5 wins for TSM I think is overly ambitious; I think 4 is about the best you can expect, but with the group if they don't understand or can't play the meta then 2-4 is quite possible too. Most of the teams are roughly equal in that group imo. There's no reason for them to go less than 5-1, but it's TSM so I expect high variance.

Wait, are teams only playing 3 games in the groups? Only best of 1s? I'm not seeing 6 games for each team on the schedule.
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 03:54:41
October 05 2017 03:53 GMT
#372
On October 05 2017 11:51 geript wrote:
Wait, are teams only playing 3 games in the groups? Only best of 1s? I'm not seeing 6 games for each team on the schedule.


The schedule on LoL esports only accounts for the 1st week of group stage for some reason. There will be definitely be a 2nd week of group stage on Oct 12-15, as seen here:

+ Show Spoiler +

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The baylife, it burns!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 04:22 GMT
#373
That's what I thought but I didn't see week 2 of groups.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 05 2017 05:56 GMT
#374
There's a second week, the schedule hasn't been released yet, however. Maybe to create a more hype final day?
Que Sera Sera
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2017 06:22 GMT
#375
The question is if they'll do the dumb finish up each group in a single day. Schedule wise it's great as you'll never have multiple tiebreakers to schedule in a single day. But it's worse for teams planning for 3 matches and having little time to adjust or fix things on the second week.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
October 05 2017 06:22 GMT
#376
1 year ban bet royal top group
xd
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
October 05 2017 06:53 GMT
#377
30 year ban bet korea wins xd
TL/SKT
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 05 2017 07:24 GMT
#378
I wish Worlds wasn't on at such a shit time for east coast
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2017 07:25 GMT
#379
I get that they wanted to open with a Chinese team but what a lame game for the opener
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2017 07:33 GMT
#380
Rakan ignored????wtf
Carrilord has arrived.
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