I wasn't sure if I missed him leaving or something. People make such a big fuss about that guy so was curious. Hoping fnatic look super solid next week to restore some faith in EU.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 25 2017 17:48 GMT

#69

I see a 0% chance NiP keeps their spot in challenger, definitely not with that roster. I assume they'll sell. MM probably will stay.

Congrats to S04 and Giants, it was weird to not see Giants in LCS

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

August 25 2017 18:34 GMT

#70

Pretty happy about the outcome of the EU relegation.

Has to suck to invest 500k and lose it a few months later though.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 25 2017 21:57 GMT

#71

I'd feel worse for NIP if they didn't buy the spot, kick out the players who earned it, then formed one of the strangest rosters assembled to try and keep it

Sent.

Poland9132 Posts

August 25 2017 22:40 GMT

#72

The players kicked themselves out when they decided to make the demand to keep the entire roster intact. If NIP's story is true, ofc

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 25 2017 22:51 GMT

#73

I still don't understand how Riot thought getting rid of the 'X number of players must play on the roster the following split' rule was a good idea to let this happen anyway but I digress. NiP gets no sympathy from me, Fnatic Academy earned the spot, they deserved the spot. Not the roster they ended with.

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Poland9132 Posts

August 25 2017 23:31 GMT

#74

I agree that Riot is to blame for creating a shitty situation. NIP wanted to keep some of the players, but their hand was kind of forced when the players made their demand.

NiP CEO: We simply did not have room for all the Fnatic Academy members

There has been a lot of controversy surrounding the takeover of the slot from Fnatic fans, with fans believing the FNA team were neglected and then replaced during the takeover. Could you shed some light on NiP's decision making when deciding on the final roster?

Absolutely. The team was not neglected as we wanted to bring several of the players over as they are worthy of playing in the LCS. Before speaking to Fnatic, we were putting together a roster to enter through another slot and had already done some work. Taking all the Fnatic players while we had made commitments on the other would also have been wrong, and we were left in a situation where we had to make a choice where someone would be disappointed. We simply did not have room for all of them. We did not want to break our commitments to the coaching team that had put together this roster and worked with us on entering the LCS again.

Why did you decide to bring on an entirely new roster rather than pick up the entire FNA roster?

They put up an ultimatum where we tried finding a solution, unfortunately it just got messy from the Fnatic player end. I am a bit disappointed in the way this was handled by both Fnatic and their players, as the behavior was not professional and generated hate towards NiP. That was uncalled for in my opinion. Their behavior after the acquisition makes me more comfortable with our decision as professionalism and good player conduct is a key requirement being a Ninjas in Pyjamas player.

To be clear, I'm not saying NIP is innocent. I just don't think it deserves the full blame.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 26 2017 18:49 GMT

#75

That's fair, I still think they should have just gone with the full FNC.A spot but that's just me.

Also with Misfits winning G2 is locked at worlds right? That also means UoL is probably fucked as I doubt they can beat Fnatic in a best of 5

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Poland9132 Posts

August 26 2017 18:58 GMT

#76

Yeah G2 secured their worlds ticket.

Looks like Rift Rivals wasn't a wake up call for Europe, it was a foreshadowing.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

August 26 2017 18:59 GMT

#77

On August 27 2017 03:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:
That's fair, I still think they should have just gone with the full FNC.A spot but that's just me.

Also with Misfits winning G2 is locked at worlds right? That also means UoL is probably fucked as I doubt they can beat Fnatic in a best of 5

I believe they are yea. I mean they prob were anyway since H2K will choke like usual. Misfits playing really well but can't help feel Fnatic look kind of bad. Haven't been impressed with this Falco guy as number 1 since he left TSM. Some people are just better number 2s. That last fnatic draft was just awful for the team.

On August 27 2017 03:58 Sent. wrote:
Yeah G2 secured their worlds ticket.

Looks like Rift Rivals wasn't a wake up call for Europe, it was a foreshadowing.

Hahaha. Honestly Misfits making it is good. They legitimately look good when they in the groove.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

August 26 2017 19:00 GMT

#78

Nice. Now G2 and TSM need to lose as well and all the default winners in Kr/EU/NA are out. :D

Btw PoE with impacable performance every game. Feels like he has been somewhat underrated.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

August 26 2017 19:05 GMT

#79

On August 27 2017 04:00 Redox wrote:
Nice. Now G2 and TSM need to lose as well and all the default winners in Kr/EU/NA are out. :D

Btw PoE with impacable performance every game. Feels like he has been somewhat underrated.

PowerofEvil been good for a long time since Challenger 2014 I thought he was good then with his Syndra. He grown a lot since his time in the LCS but still got his pocket pick Syndra ready.

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Poland9132 Posts

August 26 2017 19:13 GMT

#80

PoE did well and Caps helped in making him look good. Caps' last game looked like he's on autopilot, he didn't even use his ult in last teamfights.

I think Fnatic has a problem with having multiple players (Soaz/Caps/Rekkles) being unable to communicate their problems, so once things get bad, they can only get worse.