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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 17 2015 16:54 GMT
#1021
I'm actually worried that LPL is gonna try to buyout Ziv now.
Moderator
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
October 17 2015 16:54 GMT
#1022
Tieba salt will be crazy.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
October 17 2015 16:54 GMT
#1023
On October 18 2015 01:53 DystopiaX wrote:
ok who let dyrus play for edg

Retirement does that to you
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1024
On October 18 2015 01:52 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:49 Azarkon wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:44 Numy wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:41 Azarkon wrote:
For the record, I criticize Chinese Dota a lot but have never thought that they were a joke. When I brought up the issue with new talent in their scene back in 2013, I was responding to the idea that China was going to become the "Korean SC 2 of Dota 2." But even then I was trying to bring attention to a problem I see in their scene, rather than saying that the scene was terrible. And these days I have a lot more respect for China in Dota regardless of what I say at times, simply because they obviously don't have the player population to compete with the West, but are still posting decent results.

Chinese LoL, though... It's a joke how bad this scene is despite all the advantages and money.


Ok this sentiment I find much more agreeable. Although I do think the level of league everywhere is kind of shit. Don't really know why teams feel so bad. Maybe just because we had SSW last year that looking at league this year feels hollow.

At least we get CDEC. It's funny how Dota scene is getting new blood in it at a much faster rate then League scene is. Just all recycled pro players constantly instead of new players. LCS league format may be the reason.


I think LoL has less new talent simply because of the import situation. Teams are currently investing in Korean/European imports rather than developing new players.


Dota has a bunch of NA/EU hyrbid teams though. I guess they aren't quite the same as the import situation in league. That's also a bit funny. In Dota NA/EU hybrid teams have been around for years yet in League they rather isolated scenes.


Dota doesn't have the official team situation in LCS where new teams only have one opportunity to qualify for "the money" every season. Second/third-tier teams in Dota are able to join a lot of tournaments and to play against top teams in official matches that way. The barrier of entry is a lot lower, therefore, for new teams in Dota than it is in LoL.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1025
AmazingJ: Thank you koro for taking the bullet.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1026
On October 18 2015 01:52 MattBarry wrote:
Never thought I'd see the day where Riven becomes a meta top laner in pro play


She's been a pick in Korea for like the last 3-6 months.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1027
Koro1 got lvl 6 at 10:15
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1028
On October 18 2015 01:27 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:22 nimdil wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:20 stuchiu wrote:
The best thing about this is how the dota2 Chinese fans are gonna flame the LoL Chinese fans.

Why? Sure, chinese Dota2 is in fantastic shape but they didn't win TI.


Who got 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th at TI?

Irrelevant - it's all about champions. Na'Vi, iG, Alliance, NewBee, EG.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 17 2015 16:55 GMT
#1029
On October 18 2015 01:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Koro1 got lvl 6 at 10:15

huni just got 6 too though
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
October 17 2015 16:56 GMT
#1030
Huni showing his Riven mechanics
You're now breathing manually
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 17 2015 16:56 GMT
#1031
On October 18 2015 01:54 stuchiu wrote:
I'm actually worried that LPL is gonna try to buyout Ziv now.


Ziv doesn't even count as an import for LPL
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 17 2015 16:56 GMT
#1032
Kassadin and kennen trying to cover a group push... yeah...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 17 2015 16:56 GMT
#1033
On October 18 2015 01:55 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:52 Numy wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:49 Azarkon wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:44 Numy wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:41 Azarkon wrote:
For the record, I criticize Chinese Dota a lot but have never thought that they were a joke. When I brought up the issue with new talent in their scene back in 2013, I was responding to the idea that China was going to become the "Korean SC 2 of Dota 2." But even then I was trying to bring attention to a problem I see in their scene, rather than saying that the scene was terrible. And these days I have a lot more respect for China in Dota regardless of what I say at times, simply because they obviously don't have the player population to compete with the West, but are still posting decent results.

Chinese LoL, though... It's a joke how bad this scene is despite all the advantages and money.


Ok this sentiment I find much more agreeable. Although I do think the level of league everywhere is kind of shit. Don't really know why teams feel so bad. Maybe just because we had SSW last year that looking at league this year feels hollow.

At least we get CDEC. It's funny how Dota scene is getting new blood in it at a much faster rate then League scene is. Just all recycled pro players constantly instead of new players. LCS league format may be the reason.


I think LoL has less new talent simply because of the import situation. Teams are currently investing in Korean/European imports rather than developing new players.


Dota has a bunch of NA/EU hyrbid teams though. I guess they aren't quite the same as the import situation in league. That's also a bit funny. In Dota NA/EU hybrid teams have been around for years yet in League they rather isolated scenes.


Dota doesn't have the official team situation in LCS where new teams only have one opportunity to qualify for "the money" every season. Second/third-tier teams in Dota are able to join a lot of tournaments and to play against top teams in official matches that way. The barrier of entry is a lot lower, therefore, for new teams in Dota than it is in LoL.


Yea I get it. Do you think LCS kind of kills the potential in league? Sure it's good for building money and viewership but for the actual skill level doesn't it seem to do the opposite?

EDG in trouble here. Kassa may be nice in lane but I just don't see the point of it in a comp.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 17 2015 16:57 GMT
#1034
huni has 0 cs its actually not that good for fnc
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 17 2015 16:57 GMT
#1035
i think its time for EDG to get cooldown items and spam gragas Q
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 17 2015 16:57 GMT
#1036
On October 18 2015 01:55 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:27 stuchiu wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:22 nimdil wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:20 stuchiu wrote:
The best thing about this is how the dota2 Chinese fans are gonna flame the LoL Chinese fans.

Why? Sure, chinese Dota2 is in fantastic shape but they didn't win TI.


Who got 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th at TI?

Irrelevant - it's all about champions. Na'Vi, iG, Alliance, NewBee, EG.


2nd,3rd,4th,5th is not irrelevant.
Moderator
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 17:00:03
October 17 2015 16:57 GMT
#1037
On October 18 2015 01:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:55 Azarkon wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:52 Numy wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:49 Azarkon wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:44 Numy wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:41 Azarkon wrote:
For the record, I criticize Chinese Dota a lot but have never thought that they were a joke. When I brought up the issue with new talent in their scene back in 2013, I was responding to the idea that China was going to become the "Korean SC 2 of Dota 2." But even then I was trying to bring attention to a problem I see in their scene, rather than saying that the scene was terrible. And these days I have a lot more respect for China in Dota regardless of what I say at times, simply because they obviously don't have the player population to compete with the West, but are still posting decent results.

Chinese LoL, though... It's a joke how bad this scene is despite all the advantages and money.


Ok this sentiment I find much more agreeable. Although I do think the level of league everywhere is kind of shit. Don't really know why teams feel so bad. Maybe just because we had SSW last year that looking at league this year feels hollow.

At least we get CDEC. It's funny how Dota scene is getting new blood in it at a much faster rate then League scene is. Just all recycled pro players constantly instead of new players. LCS league format may be the reason.


I think LoL has less new talent simply because of the import situation. Teams are currently investing in Korean/European imports rather than developing new players.


Dota has a bunch of NA/EU hyrbid teams though. I guess they aren't quite the same as the import situation in league. That's also a bit funny. In Dota NA/EU hybrid teams have been around for years yet in League they rather isolated scenes.


Dota doesn't have the official team situation in LCS where new teams only have one opportunity to qualify for "the money" every season. Second/third-tier teams in Dota are able to join a lot of tournaments and to play against top teams in official matches that way. The barrier of entry is a lot lower, therefore, for new teams in Dota than it is in LoL.


Yea I get it. Do you think LCS kind of kills the potential in league? Sure it's good for building money and viewership but for the actual skill level doesn't it seem to do the opposite?

EDG in trouble here. Kassa may be nice in lane but I just don't see the point of it in a comp.


I think LCS, combined with the current policy of imports, kills new talent in league. I don't think it kills the scene because, obviously, viewership in LoL is actually > Dota across the board. It's a viewers' game, rather than a players' game, which I think is what Riot wants. The only problem at the moment is that LCK is too above other regions. The best situation for Riot is every major region being competitive, and they have tried to force that ie removing sister teams in LCK. But at the end of the day, they aren't able to force Korean teams to work less hard.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 17 2015 16:57 GMT
#1038
huni even in gold because of the towers

towers are even what are you even saying it was the kill lol
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#1039
On October 18 2015 01:56 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:54 stuchiu wrote:
I'm actually worried that LPL is gonna try to buyout Ziv now.


Ziv doesn't even count as an import for LPL


How many teams and careers must LPL destroy before they are satisfied?
Moderator
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#1040
if edg have no idea what to do other than siege don't pick team c omps that can't siege lol
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