EPTKid's actually not that awful of an ADC, he just consistently gets the biggest strugglers as his support players lol.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Kid's actually not that awful of an ADC, he just consistently gets the biggest strugglers as his support players lol. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 02 2015 07:00 Itsmedudeman wrote: I mean, people just look at rookie/kakao and keep spouting mid-jungle synergy like it's 2013. It really has nothing to do with how bad kid/kitties are though. The team clearly lacks leadership and someone who can really control the mid-late game. ig are really the najin of this season, would much rather see QG or even snake go to worlds 5.16 2 strong for them | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 02 2015 05:48 TheYango wrote: I don't see how this produces better games than a fairer format. The good teams still play each other in bracket either way, it's just whether you also get to see them play each other in groups. Segregating them from one another in small groups doesn't help you accomplish anything. The only thing Riot really gains in terms of marketing their game is that they minimize the possibility of a region-dominant bracket. In both seasons 3 and 4, the bracket arrangement minimized the likelihood of a Korea vs. Korea final. the marketing thing is that they can have way more games featuring regions that otherwise would not stand much of a chance to even be in the tourney. if your criteria for better games excludes stuff like BKT vs anyone or the lower seed western teams, then whatever tourney you'll end up with will not feature these regions as much as the present one. the strongest teams still get to a bracket tourney and the best ones still probably win so it's not a big deal to have some essentially exhibition matches during groups | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 02 2015 09:22 oneofthem wrote: the marketing thing is that they can have way more games featuring regions that otherwise would not stand much of a chance to even be in the tourney. if your criteria for better games excludes stuff like BKT vs anyone or the lower seed western teams, then whatever tourney you'll end up with will not feature these regions as much as the present one. Huh? In the current format each of those teams plays 6 games. If you did 8 team Bo1 groups, they'd play 7 AND have a higher chance of playing opponents close to their skill level. If you want an "exhibition" type format, then you precisely want a format where teams play more games against DIFFERENT opponents. If you have small groups in an invitation/seeded tournament, it's very hard to have good games in group stage because you try to seed strong teams against teams that are worse than them. Bigger groups give more chances for strong teams to play strong teams, and weak teams to play weak teams, resulting in more good games. The tradeoff is that seeded small groups makes it easier to protect strong teams' entry into the bracket stage because seeding is designed to put the strongest teams in groups with weaker teams so that they can advance. But for seeding to be effective, the information by which you seed groups has to be sound. When you lack information to properly rank teams in a way that you can seed effectively (as Riot does because there hasn't been any international competition), trying to seed small groups is a crapshoot anyway (hell, Riot made it a crapshoot by making group drawing basically random), so you lose the advantage of small, seeded groups. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On October 02 2015 08:35 Azarkon wrote: Fnatic's play was perfect that game. No way any LPL team except EDG/LGD beats them with that play. hard to say. Fnatic played very very well but they also got a huge advantage off of IG's bad 2v1 start. I would agree that if you put every LPL team into that situation (post fail 2v1 swap where fnatic get the bot turret) only those two would win, but I don't think every other LPL team other than EDG/LGD would have put themselves into that situation either. On October 02 2015 14:28 schmutttt wrote: Been at work all day since I got up about 7 hours ago, how was CLGs match? From what I've read it was a very shaky performance. Also why are people acting like FNATIC > IG is a big upset? Strongest western team vs arguably weakest KR/CN team, was always a tossup with FNATIC probably favourites. CLG were losing until YFW threw (their trist got caught by elise cocoon with all sums+w up) and CLG just pushed hard and abused long spawn timers to win. Definitely not a great performance from them, though their calls to secure the comeback were good. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 02 2015 06:56 AlterKot wrote: Can someone direct me to LMS salt pls, I think this is first time I'm not on receiving end of smug hypetrain crash. LMS hypetrain is going strong man. See the LMS teams don't care about winning. It's just about bodying overrated top laners | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On October 02 2015 14:28 schmutttt wrote: Been at work all day since I got up about 7 hours ago, how was CLGs match? From what I've read it was a very shaky performance. Also why are people acting like FNATIC > IG is a big upset? Strongest western team vs arguably weakest KR/CN team, was always a tossup with FNATIC probably favourites. Fnatic was the underdog here at least on pinnacle. Not by a long shot but still. Also it wasnt just that they won, but how good they looked in their win. Their matchplan was perfect. First picking the Elise right away, making sure they have the stronger early game jungler and picking safe lanes completely shut down the labeled best solo lanes / jungle combo in the tournament. Adding Shen to the mix to make 100% sure to not get snowballed on at top lane, while realizing the botlane is no threat. Then getting ahead by superior map movement and very clear executed dives. Febiven and Huni were able to go even without ever being in danger at all. Textbook finish being ahead, forcing a surrender. CLG looked shaky as hell. They won the draft ultra hard, getting 3 fp/ban worthy picks. Also won bot lane rly hard. Ekko was neutralized by Lulu mid, Zion got like 3 ganks before 10 mins and they still fell befind in midgame being outplayed in fights and movement. DL farmed like a mad men though and the combo with Lulu late was just too much to handle. /e oh ye and AHQ ad doing a perfect Woolite to basicaly gift CLG the win. | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On October 02 2015 18:03 Kenpark wrote: Fnatic was the underdog here at least on pinnacle. Not by a long shot but still. Also it wasnt just that they won, but how good they looked in their win. It was so one sided that it's hard to assess where they are compared to other team. They look better against iG then SKT against H2K but not as strong as EDG vs BT. Not telling a lot how these 3 are compared to each other. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
KT Rolster < Team SoloMid - yes, I'm calling it a TSM win, although I don't really believe in it LGD Gaming > Origen - won't be a stomp, calling it a late game Bangkok Titans < SK Telecom T1 - not much to say there H2K Gaming < EDward Gaming - as above Flash Wolves < KOO Tigers - let's see if KOO is not the same team as they were at MSI Counter Logic Gaming < paiN Gaming - CLG sandbagging mode will start from here *obviously KT < TSM is pure fun prediction, don't take it seriously ^_^ | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9203 Posts
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Mensol
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![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQTwOBsWIAEMiwA.png) H2K vs SKT one l o l. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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