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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 12:26:32
October 02 2015 12:25 GMT
#1641
On October 02 2015 14:28 schmutttt wrote:
Been at work all day since I got up about 7 hours ago, how was CLGs match? From what I've read it was a very shaky performance. Also why are people acting like FNATIC > IG is a big upset? Strongest western team vs arguably weakest KR/CN team, was always a tossup with FNATIC probably favourites.

It's not just the Fnatic victory, it's the way in which they won. Fnatic completely outclassed IG and stomped them, and that much no one was really expecting. On CLG's game, they picked a 2-threat comp with Jinx bot and Darius top, with Pobelter playing Lulu mid. Zion got shut down hard on Darius by the enemy Gnar which left only Doublelift as a big threat, and Pobelter as half a threat; the game was close but with FW in the lead for most of the game until Xmithie hit an Elise Cocoon on the enemy Tristana at a critical point, which CLG snowballed very effectively into a win. Zion and Aphro played like ass, Liftlift carried hard, and Pobelter played really well.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 02 2015 13:26 GMT
#1642
i think origen has a shot here tbh
still going with lgd
KT > TSM

LGD > OG

BKT < SKT

H2K < EDG

FW < KOO

CLG > paiN
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 02 2015 13:37 GMT
#1643
good thing all the people sitting behind me are working from home time to watch worlds at work hue hue hue
Bronze player stuck in platinum
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
October 02 2015 13:39 GMT
#1644
Every Chinese and Taiwanese teams/casters said CLG is better than KOO.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 02 2015 13:44 GMT
#1645
On October 02 2015 20:47 Mensol wrote:
[image loading]

H2K vs SKT one l o l.

This is amazing.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
October 02 2015 13:44 GMT
#1646
TSM TSM TSM
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
October 02 2015 13:45 GMT
#1647
Dyrus please play Singed
LGD please play Flame
xd
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 13:50:35
October 02 2015 13:48 GMT
#1648
On October 02 2015 09:42 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 09:22 oneofthem wrote:
the marketing thing is that they can have way more games featuring regions that otherwise would not stand much of a chance to even be in the tourney. if your criteria for better games excludes stuff like BKT vs anyone or the lower seed western teams, then whatever tourney you'll end up with will not feature these regions as much as the present one.

Huh? In the current format each of those teams plays 6 games. If you did 8 team Bo1 groups, they'd play 7 AND have a higher chance of playing opponents close to their skill level.

If you want an "exhibition" type format, then you precisely want a format where teams play more games against DIFFERENT opponents.

If you have small groups in an invitation/seeded tournament, it's very hard to have good games in group stage because you try to seed strong teams against teams that are worse than them. Bigger groups give more chances for strong teams to play strong teams, and weak teams to play weak teams, resulting in more good games.

The tradeoff is that seeded small groups makes it easier to protect strong teams' entry into the bracket stage because seeding is designed to put the strongest teams in groups with weaker teams so that they can advance. But for seeding to be effective, the information by which you seed groups has to be sound. When you lack information to properly rank teams in a way that you can seed effectively (as Riot does because there hasn't been any international competition), trying to seed small groups is a crapshoot anyway (hell, Riot made it a crapshoot by making group drawing basically random), so you lose the advantage of small, seeded groups.

what are you even advocating? i was comparing the setup right now vs just having a single bracket tourney, with the takeaway that group stage is largely irrelevant in the competitive sense. if you want to have a bigger group stage fine go ahead, but it is also not relevant to my point.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
October 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#1649
AHHHHHHHHHHH IM SO EXCITED LETS GO TSM
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#1650
KT > TSM
LGD > Origen
SKT > Titans
EDG > H2K
Koo > FW
CLG > Pain


I think today is more clear than yesterday, but I expect at least 2 predictions to be wrong...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-02 14:01:04
October 02 2015 14:00 GMT
#1651
LGD OG should be a good game to watch for a potential upset today
Bronze player stuck in platinum
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 02 2015 14:01 GMT
#1652
--- Nuked ---
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 02 2015 14:01 GMT
#1653
Surprises incoming today ! One or two preferably, pretty please ^^
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9203 Posts
October 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#1654
One good thing for TSM is that almost nobody expects them to do well so the pressure is lower
You're now breathing manually
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
October 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#1655
On October 02 2015 23:01 krndandaman wrote:
Spirit just predicted on OGN stream LGD/TSM to make it out.


Wow so did I..
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
October 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#1656
TSM beating KT would be the upset of tournament for sure.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#1657
On October 02 2015 23:01 krndandaman wrote:
Spirit just predicted on OGN stream LGD/TSM to make it out.

I'd be kind of into it if this world's group stages is just a total shit show
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 02 2015 14:04 GMT
#1658
On October 02 2015 23:02 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 23:01 krndandaman wrote:
Spirit just predicted on OGN stream LGD/TSM to make it out.


Wow so did I..


Final score for TSM?
Liquipedia"Expert"
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9203 Posts
October 02 2015 14:04 GMT
#1659
"Battlecruiser operation" lmao, Yamato is so cool
You're now breathing manually
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
October 02 2015 14:05 GMT
#1660
Who is ready for Monte to make his shit analysis for KT vs. TSM and then for it to be visibly proven ignorant immediately following.
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