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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:09 LimpingGoat wrote: It's not just TSM or something. Teams value scrim results fairly appropriately, as you would expect, the results that happen in scrims tend to happen on stage. Apparently that's not the case for TSM and CLG, lmao | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:50 LimpingGoat wrote: It's okay to personally attack LimpingGoat since he thinks TSM is good right guys. ironic considering you did the exact same thing to montecristo for being a "korean fan boy". lmao. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:50 LimpingGoat wrote: It's okay to personally attack LimpingGoat since he thinks TSM is good right guys. I mean, for you to be completely oblivious to how the things you write could be read as offensive or confrontational, you'd have to be one of the Kissblade's two options. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:50 LimpingGoat wrote: It's okay to personally attack LimpingGoat since he thinks TSM is good right guys. It's fine to think TSM is good. It's fine to even think they're among the best team in the world. But the fact that you can even pretend your predictions weren't total balderdash is why people think there's something off about your opinions. Have you went back and actually read them and what you were insinuating? | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:09 LimpingGoat wrote: It's not just TSM or something. Teams value scrim results fairly appropriately, as you would expect, the results that happen in scrims tend to happen on stage. Lol you can't really prove that because most scrims are kept private. Ofc if a strong team scrims with a weak team, the results in the tournament are most likely going to be one-sided. But on the stage, factors like nerves, choking, possible cheese strategies and just having a good/bad day come into effect, and they can swing a a 30-70 game to a 50-50 easily. Look at GE losing to WE, that was a hilarious choke. I'm pretty sure GE had pretty positive scrim results if they did practice, and yet they still managed to lose to an unrefined new team. And TSM went on to beat WE in convincing fashion, the way we would've expected it to be. Imagine if Fnatic had tilted game 1 or 2, they would've lost the series pretty badly, and we would be sitting here discussing how bad of a region EU. Those scrim results the day EDG arrived meant nothing. Deft especially did not see to be able to get used to the new environment, he played poorly at MSI for what one would expect. Maybe he'll turn into the new Namei, who knows, but EDG still played very well, while TSM looked like a headless chicken in their games on stage even after all that promising press. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On May 18 2015 13:09 LimpingGoat wrote: It's not just TSM or something. Teams value scrim results fairly appropriately, as you would expect, the results that happen in scrims tend to happen on stage. I thought that teams and fans alike would stop overvaluing weight of scrims results after one season with LMQ, and many seasons of Link performing well in scrims. Seems like I'm quite wrong. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
They went to 5 games vs EDG. The fall of Korea is exaggerated. The region is obviously weaker, the two best teams in the world left along with more of the best players. It's not weak to a point that North America or Europe are favourites, or that China is an overwhelming favourite. I find teams that actively talk about their scrim results are when it tends to be a bad indicator of performance. | ||
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God Killer v2
United States434 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On May 18 2015 18:30 Ansibled wrote: Korea came into this tournament after losing 40+ players over the past year and with only a few days of preparation compared to the just under two weeks of EDG and even more for the West. They went to 5 games vs EDG. The fall of Korea is exaggerated. The region is obviously weaker, the two best teams in the world left along with more of the best players. It's not weak to a point that North America or Europe are favourites, or that China is an overwhelming favourite. I find teams that actively talk about their scrim results are when it tends to be a bad indicator of performance. They also went to 5 games vs Fnatic huehue | ||
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On May 18 2015 14:29 TheYango wrote: I mean, for you to be completely oblivious to how the things you write could be read as offensive or confrontational, you'd have to be one of the Kissblade's two options. Yeah, your idea that I've brutalized everyone with my offensive and confrontational opinions is pretty silly. All I have done is pretty much state my opinions and insist on them confidently. The meanest thing I've said about anyone was like Montecristo. But, continue to play the victim if it helps you see me as some bad guy. Some of you keep trying to explain why I am the asshole or why I am "hated". I know why I am hated, I confidently believe in opinions that are "offensive" to a lot of the communities strongly held beliefs. It's pretty pathetic, actually. Disagree with me all you want, I'd much rather hear about why my opinions are bad than just get character attack after character attack and constant insinuations that I am an idiot or flat out statements that I am an idiot. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On May 18 2015 23:51 LimpingGoat wrote: Yeah, your idea that I've brutalized everyone with my offensive and confrontational opinions is pretty silly. All I have done is pretty much state my opinions and insist on them confidently. The meanest thing I've said about anyone was like Montecristo. But, continue to play the victim if it helps you see me as some bad guy. Some of you keep trying to explain why I am the asshole or why I am "hated". I know why I am hated, I confidently believe in opinions that are "offensive" to a lot of the communities strongly held beliefs. It's pretty pathetic, actually. Disagree with me all you want, I'd much rather hear about why my opinions are bad than just get character attack after character attack and constant insinuations that I am an idiot or flat out statements that I am an idiot. When you make statements like On January 25 2015 06:25 LimpingGoat wrote: Just thought I would return to this thread and slap my cock on the metaphorical table. After just one game of NA LCS, it's not just confidence, it's offensive. Not to mention you say that the community is pathetic, which is about as ad hominem as you can get. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On May 19 2015 05:42 Nos- wrote: just like kissblade :> Kiss Plz. I'm already an ascended meme of inhouses. Alas the younger generation will never know  . | ||
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FKAri
Canada84 Posts
As for Pawn's lane, Pawn couldn't allow Leblanc a kill under any circumstances. A jungle gank where he dies and leblanc gets a kill is a disaster. Even a 1-for-1 trade is a disaster. He played as defensive as he needed. Only farmed on his side of the lane never ventured out. G5 was Pawn's best played game of the series though he probably had the weakest showing of EDG's members in this series. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
I will add, I think the Nautilus pick was mostly to block the Clearlove jungle pick given that Clearlove showed he can play it in groups. (Albeit, I don't think Nautilus is a Clearlove champ). I also think Eve was a really underrated pick as SKT mostly relied on standard wards to prevent flanks. I think Maokai/Eve flanks were ultimately what lost SKT the game allowing a lot more Dragon traps than previous games. | ||
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