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mikubi13
Profile Joined April 2015
Spain9 Posts
April 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#2401
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?


Because the amount of cc. If they pick sivir + ghost he will have the mobility he wants so there is no reason to pick ez/corki/jayce
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
April 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#2402
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?

It counters Mundo and Vlad (serious answer).

mikubi13
Profile Joined April 2015
Spain9 Posts
April 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#2403
On April 20 2015 00:58 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?

It counters Mundo and Vlad (serious answer).


Also this
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#2404
On April 20 2015 00:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:48 Ansibled wrote:
Fnatic/UoL is more China than China.


China evolved from this bullshit, it's EU who tries their best to degrade into S3 LPL.

As entertaining as these teamfights are, the game definitely didn't feel refined. Same with the series yesterday between H2K and SK (and TL's play in general, they rarely feel clinical, it's more about outplaying from their carries).
Considering that it's supposed to be the highest level of play in EU, it gives credence to NA having passed EU, at least for the top teams. Either Fnatic or UoL could win these games by scrapping by better than their opponents, but against a more refined team (who prepared enough not to be caught off-guard by the fact the games are chaotic), assuming close individual skill levels, I'd expect them to fold up and die.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
April 19 2015 15:58 GMT
#2405
On April 20 2015 00:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?

Hard CC.

Hail of Arrows vs Vlad is super good.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2015 15:59 GMT
#2406
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?

I dunno, a root that can hit multiple people is a pretty good ability
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 19 2015 15:59 GMT
#2407
On April 20 2015 00:57 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:55 las91 wrote:
UOL TO MSI PLEASE

We need some fun in our lives

On April 20 2015 00:55 krndandaman wrote:
lol varus mid just seems like an inferior ez mid
its a bit more all-in on the poke but it's lack of mobility was covered nicely by taking the sivir

I don't see it being picked again though unless same comps


It has an aoe CC ult. You're trading mobility for far better teamfight potential


thing is he pretty much missed all his ultis lol and when they did hit it was like 1 man ultis

mobility is always better anyways than a skillshot cc

they won despite the varus pick not because of it

He hit enough, burned Flashes a few times. Also idk how you can claim this so definitively lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2015 15:59 GMT
#2408
On April 20 2015 00:58 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 20 2015 00:48 Ansibled wrote:
Fnatic/UoL is more China than China.


China evolved from this bullshit, it's EU who tries their best to degrade into S3 LPL.

As entertaining as these teamfights are, the game definitely didn't feel refined. Same with the series yesterday between H2K and SK (and TL's play in general, they rarely feel clinical, it's more about outplaying from their carries).
Considering that it's supposed to be the highest level of play in EU, it gives credence to NA having passed EU, at least for the top teams. Either Fnatic or UoL could win these games by scrapping by better than their opponents, but against a more refined team (who prepared enough not to be caught off-guard by the fact the games are chaotic), assuming close individual skill levels, I'd expect them to fold up and die.

Have you seen a snake game?
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 19 2015 15:59 GMT
#2409
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5006 Posts
April 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#2410
Like saying he's a weaker version of Ez is so.. what. His q goes THROUGH. That's pretty bonkers with full armor pen.
Taxes are for Terrans
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#2411
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?


One thing I noticed is that Varus can peel for himself since he has a good ult and a decent AOE persistent slow. He brings more utility and synergy to the team than a kog can.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 19 2015 16:01 GMT
#2412
On April 20 2015 00:59 krndandaman wrote:
yeah I don't see it being picked again unless vs kass/vlad AND securing sivir on your team
its super situational and I hope people have enough critical thinking to not play it in soloq


critical thinking and solo queue







what
In Inca we trust
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 19 2015 16:01 GMT
#2413
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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2414
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2415
On April 20 2015 01:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote:
So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?


One thing I noticed is that Varus can peel for himself since he has a good ult and a decent AOE persistent slow. He brings more utility and synergy to the team than a kog can.

I still think kog mid is better due to damage diversification, but since fnatic's comp was fairly squishy, varus worked perfectly.
liftlift > tsm
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 16:02:47
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2416
Damn orzeu was faster ^^
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2417
On April 20 2015 01:01 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 20 2015 00:57 krndandaman wrote:
On April 20 2015 00:55 las91 wrote:
UOL TO MSI PLEASE

We need some fun in our lives

On April 20 2015 00:55 krndandaman wrote:
lol varus mid just seems like an inferior ez mid
its a bit more all-in on the poke but it's lack of mobility was covered nicely by taking the sivir

I don't see it being picked again though unless same comps


It has an aoe CC ult. You're trading mobility for far better teamfight potential


thing is he pretty much missed all his ultis lol and when they did hit it was like 1 man ultis

mobility is always better anyways than a skillshot cc

they won despite the varus pick not because of it

He hit enough, burned Flashes a few times. Also idk how you can claim this so definitively lol.


mobility is the most useful skillset to have in league
just look at the amount of old champs that are unviable/not played because of lack of mobility

Like orianna, and vlad?
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2418
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 19 2015 16:02 GMT
#2419
On April 20 2015 00:53 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:34 Alaric wrote:
Fucking UoL playing full-retard. Here, here's why I said Fnatic would just roll them. Fnatic don't ever need to make plays and they barely do, because they can just wait for their opponents to get retarded and capitalise on that.

And hey! You pick Maokai and laneswap so Vlad can't farm for free.
THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU LET THEM DIVE 4V1 TO GIVE HIM AN ASSIST AND TOWER GOLD, THEN TWO FUCKING TOWERS FOR FREE FOR 2.5K FREE GOLD?

F'king hell, that's how infuriating to watch. Goddamn idiots. >.>"


Could you repeat this good sir?
Fucking lol.

On April 20 2015 00:53 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2015 00:53 Embir wrote:
On April 20 2015 00:34 Alaric wrote:
Fucking UoL playing full-retard. Here, here's why I said Fnatic would just roll them. Fnatic don't ever need to make plays and they barely do, because they can just wait for their opponents to get retarded and capitalise on that.

And hey! You pick Maokai and laneswap so Vlad can't farm for free.
THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU LET THEM DIVE 4V1 TO GIVE HIM AN ASSIST AND TOWER GOLD, THEN TWO FUCKING TOWERS FOR FREE FOR 2.5K FREE GOLD?

F'king hell, that's how infuriating to watch. Goddamn idiots. >.>"


Could you repeat this good sir?
Fucking lol.


How can he repeat it when he's too busy investing in every salt mine within a 10 kilometer radius


PEE OH EE

I'm not going to complain about either Fnatic losing, or UoL winning. But frankly it was less UoL climbing from a deficit than Fnatic playing retarded in turn and throwing.

On April 20 2015 00:50 orzeu wrote:
Braum is so good with double adc.

Braum's good vs Vlad in general too, it's hard for him to walk in Q range of the carries if Braum is there, and E blocks all of Vlad's (I dunno if it means Braum dies super fast from tanking 3-4 Es every time Vlad casts, though, gotta check).
Damage reduction also reduces how much Vlad sustains in turn.

Plus Fnatic had a low-range team in general, which plays into Braum's passive and ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 19 2015 16:03 GMT
#2420
Varus also has % health damage, although it's kinda counter intuitive to the way his skills work to maximise it, it is not uncommon to get a 15% max hp killing blow or parting shot.
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