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On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?
Because the amount of cc. If they pick sivir + ghost he will have the mobility he wants so there is no reason to pick ez/corki/jayce
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On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake? It counters Mundo and Vlad (serious answer).
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On April 20 2015 00:58 Kavas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake? It counters Mundo and Vlad (serious answer). Also this
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On April 20 2015 00:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:China evolved from this bullshit, it's EU who tries their best to degrade into S3 LPL. As entertaining as these teamfights are, the game definitely didn't feel refined. Same with the series yesterday between H2K and SK (and TL's play in general, they rarely feel clinical, it's more about outplaying from their carries). Considering that it's supposed to be the highest level of play in EU, it gives credence to NA having passed EU, at least for the top teams. Either Fnatic or UoL could win these games by scrapping by better than their opponents, but against a more refined team (who prepared enough not to be caught off-guard by the fact the games are chaotic), assuming close individual skill levels, I'd expect them to fold up and die.
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On April 20 2015 00:57 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake? Hard CC. Hail of Arrows vs Vlad is super good.
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On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake? I dunno, a root that can hit multiple people is a pretty good ability
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On April 20 2015 00:57 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:55 las91 wrote:UOL TO MSI PLEASE We need some fun in our lives On April 20 2015 00:55 krndandaman wrote: lol varus mid just seems like an inferior ez mid its a bit more all-in on the poke but it's lack of mobility was covered nicely by taking the sivir
I don't see it being picked again though unless same comps It has an aoe CC ult. You're trading mobility for far better teamfight potential thing is he pretty much missed all his ultis lol and when they did hit it was like 1 man ultis mobility is always better anyways than a skillshot cc they won despite the varus pick not because of it He hit enough, burned Flashes a few times. Also idk how you can claim this so definitively lol.
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On April 20 2015 00:58 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 20 2015 00:48 Ansibled wrote: Fnatic/UoL is more China than China. China evolved from this bullshit, it's EU who tries their best to degrade into S3 LPL. As entertaining as these teamfights are, the game definitely didn't feel refined. Same with the series yesterday between H2K and SK (and TL's play in general, they rarely feel clinical, it's more about outplaying from their carries). Considering that it's supposed to be the highest level of play in EU, it gives credence to NA having passed EU, at least for the top teams. Either Fnatic or UoL could win these games by scrapping by better than their opponents, but against a more refined team (who prepared enough not to be caught off-guard by the fact the games are chaotic), assuming close individual skill levels, I'd expect them to fold up and die. Have you seen a snake game?
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Like saying he's a weaker version of Ez is so.. what. His q goes THROUGH. That's pretty bonkers with full armor pen.
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On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake?
One thing I noticed is that Varus can peel for himself since he has a good ult and a decent AOE persistent slow. He brings more utility and synergy to the team than a kog can.
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On April 20 2015 00:59 krndandaman wrote: yeah I don't see it being picked again unless vs kass/vlad AND securing sivir on your team its super situational and I hope people have enough critical thinking to not play it in soloq
critical thinking and solo queue
what
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On April 20 2015 01:00 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:56 Ansibled wrote: So what reason is there to play Varus over Ezreal/Corki/Jayce other than you want to be a special snowflake? One thing I noticed is that Varus can peel for himself since he has a good ult and a decent AOE persistent slow. He brings more utility and synergy to the team than a kog can. I still think kog mid is better due to damage diversification, but since fnatic's comp was fairly squishy, varus worked perfectly.
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On April 20 2015 01:01 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:59 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 20 2015 00:57 krndandaman wrote:On April 20 2015 00:55 las91 wrote:UOL TO MSI PLEASE We need some fun in our lives On April 20 2015 00:55 krndandaman wrote: lol varus mid just seems like an inferior ez mid its a bit more all-in on the poke but it's lack of mobility was covered nicely by taking the sivir
I don't see it being picked again though unless same comps It has an aoe CC ult. You're trading mobility for far better teamfight potential thing is he pretty much missed all his ultis lol and when they did hit it was like 1 man ultis mobility is always better anyways than a skillshot cc they won despite the varus pick not because of it He hit enough, burned Flashes a few times. Also idk how you can claim this so definitively lol. mobility is the most useful skillset to have in league just look at the amount of old champs that are unviable/not played because of lack of mobility Like orianna, and vlad?
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On April 20 2015 00:53 Embir wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:34 Alaric wrote: Fucking UoL playing full-retard. Here, here's why I said Fnatic would just roll them. Fnatic don't ever need to make plays and they barely do, because they can just wait for their opponents to get retarded and capitalise on that.
And hey! You pick Maokai and laneswap so Vlad can't farm for free. THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU LET THEM DIVE 4V1 TO GIVE HIM AN ASSIST AND TOWER GOLD, THEN TWO FUCKING TOWERS FOR FREE FOR 2.5K FREE GOLD?
F'king hell, that's how infuriating to watch. Goddamn idiots. >.>" Could you repeat this good sir? Fucking lol.
On April 20 2015 00:53 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 00:53 Embir wrote:On April 20 2015 00:34 Alaric wrote: Fucking UoL playing full-retard. Here, here's why I said Fnatic would just roll them. Fnatic don't ever need to make plays and they barely do, because they can just wait for their opponents to get retarded and capitalise on that.
And hey! You pick Maokai and laneswap so Vlad can't farm for free. THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU LET THEM DIVE 4V1 TO GIVE HIM AN ASSIST AND TOWER GOLD, THEN TWO FUCKING TOWERS FOR FREE FOR 2.5K FREE GOLD?
F'king hell, that's how infuriating to watch. Goddamn idiots. >.>" Could you repeat this good sir? Fucking lol. How can he repeat it when he's too busy investing in every salt mine within a 10 kilometer radius PEE OH EE I'm not going to complain about either Fnatic losing, or UoL winning. But frankly it was less UoL climbing from a deficit than Fnatic playing retarded in turn and throwing.
On April 20 2015 00:50 orzeu wrote: Braum is so good with double adc. Braum's good vs Vlad in general too, it's hard for him to walk in Q range of the carries if Braum is there, and E blocks all of Vlad's (I dunno if it means Braum dies super fast from tanking 3-4 Es every time Vlad casts, though, gotta check). Damage reduction also reduces how much Vlad sustains in turn.
Plus Fnatic had a low-range team in general, which plays into Braum's passive and ult.
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Varus also has % health damage, although it's kinda counter intuitive to the way his skills work to maximise it, it is not uncommon to get a 15% max hp killing blow or parting shot.
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