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petered
United States1817 Posts
On April 20 2015 04:57 Embir wrote: Way to cling at my post and completely miss the point. Way to be completely unable to detect humor. I'm done, it is no longer fun because you are just sulking now. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Embir
Poland567 Posts
On April 20 2015 05:03 wei2coolman wrote: This embir butthurt is glorious. I'm sure yellowstar is like 'wuts our manager doing up here holding this trophy and shit? This fucker thinks he actually did shit?' Lol. Dude, I am as far from butthurt as it possibly can be - but reaction I get at my post from some users at this forum suggests there are a lot of other butthurt guys here. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On April 20 2015 05:30 AlterKot wrote: For what it's worth the semis, final and 3rd place were all 5-game series. Feels to me like the top of the region is pretty close. Personally I think Fnatic and H2K are closer to their prime whereas there's a lot of room for improvement on both SK and UoL. Although UoL can easily stagnate and SK collapse with weird roster changes. That's an odd thing to say... Aren't fnatic, h2k and uol all mostly rookies? I feel only sk peaked especially given Fox and nrated. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On April 20 2015 16:34 KissBlade wrote: That's an odd thing to say... Aren't fnatic, h2k and uol all mostly rookies? I feel only sk peaked especially given Fox and nrated. Loulex subbed for Gambit in S4, but outside of him and Ryu I don't see pro play in their history before this year. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
Fnatic. Again - Febiven was an established talent who lived up to his expectations, Huni is so good that I don't really see how he could get much better, Yellowstar and Reignover are far from rookies and while I think Steelback's not very good and could use a replacement, I doubt it would change much seeing what the style of Fnatic is. They are a bit one-dimensional, but I don't think those players could be as versatile as H2K and it's not really necessary seeing how they are at the top. We agree that UoL are rookies (altough it's worth mentioning that Kikis is a veteran). There's a lot of talent that could become great with better cohesion and consistency and an ADC who isn't Diamond 5. SK had their worst season in long time because Fredy is now bad, Fox and Sven are inconsistent and nRated was always bad. They need to retain Forgiven, get a better support and 3 players need to step up their game. Showing results without relying on 1-3-1, Forgiven getting Graves/Lucian/Cait and Sven getting a strong early game jungler would also help. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
H2K is fine, they just need to adjust, example: why Odoamne didn't play carries until 3rd place match? Loulex still need more experience, he did a lot of random shit in playoffs. UoL need either smart adc that will help with their in game decision making or someone, like Freeze and another person in coaching stuff that will balance their strategy. They don't need to play random shit every game, they can win with standart play. SK need new coaching stuff, their didn't improve at all and had same problem whole season. Seems like players have too much power. Then either they force Forgiven to play meta stuff and get him support he wants or rebuild completely. Knowing that Forgiven wants to go to NA I would go for korean botlane: Ignar/Zero and some adc and Zoro or korean top/support and EU adc, but this will never happen with Innerflame as a coach. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On April 20 2015 19:54 AlterKot wrote: Rookies in LCS, yes. But H2K is: a legendary korean midlaner, top and adc established as strong talents in challenger scene and a support who's been around for ages - I would only consider Loulex a relative rookie who noone expected to be as good as he his. Moreover they are strategically versatile and just don't seem to have a clear weakness. Sure, they can improve overall, but there's no big problem that you can fix with a roster or coaching change that would suddenly make them twice as good. Fnatic. Again - Febiven was an established talent who lived up to his expectations, Huni is so good that I don't really see how he could get much better, Yellowstar and Reignover are far from rookies and while I think Steelback's not very good and could use a replacement, I doubt it would change much seeing what the style of Fnatic is. They are a bit one-dimensional, but I don't think those players could be as versatile as H2K and it's not really necessary seeing how they are at the top. We agree that UoL are rookies (altough it's worth mentioning that Kikis is a veteran). There's a lot of talent that could become great with better cohesion and consistency and an ADC who isn't Diamond 5. SK had their worst season in long time because Fredy is now bad, Fox and Sven are inconsistent and nRated was always bad. They need to retain Forgiven, get a better support and 3 players need to step up their game. Showing results without relying on 1-3-1, Forgiven getting Graves/Lucian/Cait and Sven getting a strong early game jungler would also help. To be fair, "strong talents in the challenger scene" is exactly what most people consider "rookies" when talking about LCS/major leagues. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
Orzeu brings a fair point to H2K's playoff performance, but even if Odoamne played "carry" tops and loulex did less dumb shit I would still say that top4 teams are very close and if we played playoffs between those 4 every 2 weeks, we would have a different result every time. | ||
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